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Russia invaded Georgia earlier this month, now with Poland joining the nuclear defense shield and now more suddenly the russian baltic fleet Re-arming.
The U.S. has no called its allies for a meeting.
Now i know the U.S. is stretched wayy out fighting in Iraq, but im pretty damn sure they could reduce troop numbers and pull troops to fight Russia, though right at this time i feel Russia would give U.S. a spanking.

what do you guys think?

Just because the U.S. is allied to half of the world doesn't mean that half the world didn't Protest when the U.S. went to war with Iraq, Russia had allies to, need i remind you one of the worlds biggest economies, China

Wolflord Karac Report 8/18/2008 9:40:50 PM

and probably, the worlds worst army.

Yet sill if the US went to war with China, both countries would get spanked.

About this subject, the US really cant do anything right now, there to streched to threaten anyone. If russia invaded poland, the US wont do *beep*. Just talk, like they did now. Not to mention if russia gets invaded china will surly help russia.

Russia is smart and is taking advantage of this.

This coming from a marine. Why cant ppl get over themselves and fuking stop with all this bull*beep*. Yes America does try to control everything but with the WMD most countries like Russia, Iran, etc. Mainly the whole middle east has, yes we get involved with trying to boss them around. Russia trys to boss smaller countries around because they think because they are the biggest country in the world that their the most bad ass which there not. Both Chinese and Russian Military suck. The strongest are American and Britian Armies. And our borders are so well defended that if Russia or China tried to invade the US borders. They would be destroyed. By sea you have our battle ships and missle subs, etc. If your in the US military you know all of them. By air you have AA, SAM, etc. Now if they have some luck by chance of landing on American soil. there are still about 500k more soldiers mixed between, Air Force, Marines, Army, and Navy. Then you got the personal armies, the rednecks ;) that is a force to be reckon with. Now if Russia and China invaded Europe, thats stupid as well. Europe are our greatest allies and we would help them in time of need. So one small attack on Europe and the US gets involved and Russia and China get spanked bad.

So honestly Either one of these countries attacking eachother is stupidty and proves how stupid those countries are if they attack.

Well let the flaming began cuz i know its going to happen

very nice dot Basch =P

justin ur post is coming from an american view we need someone in the chinese or russian army to post there view so we can get the whole pic =)

lol the only reason the Chinese military is bigger. Wait this might make it easier. You stuck the entire Chinese population in a line it would never end because of reproduction.

quick question is China a country were you have to join the military when you reach a certain age?i know we used to have the draft which you had to sign up for when your 18. I just didnt know if china had a similar thing.

Mr. Justin

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8/18/2008 9:14:07 PMThis coming from a marine. Why cant ppl get over themselves and fuking stop with all this bull*beep*. Yes America does try to control everything but with the WMD most countries like Russia, Iran, etc. Mainly the whole middle east has, yes we get involved with trying to boss them around. Russia trys to boss smaller countries around because they think because they are the biggest country in the world that their the most bad ass which there not. Both Chinese and Russian Military suck. The strongest are American and Britian Armies. And our borders are so well defended that if Russia or China tried to invade the US borders. They would be destroyed. By sea you have our battle ships and missle subs, etc. If your in the US military you know all of them. By air you have AA, SAM, etc. Now if they have some luck by chance of landing on American soil. there are still about 500k more soldiers mixed between, Air Force, Marines, Army, and Navy. Then you got the personal armies, the rednecks ;) that is a force to be reckon with. Now if Russia and China invaded Europe, thats stupid as well. Europe are our greatest allies and we would help them in time of need. So one small attack on Europe and the US gets involved and Russia and China get spanked bad.

So honestly Either one of these countries attacking eachother is stupidty and proves how stupid those countries are if they attack.

Well let the flaming began cuz i know its going to happen.




Sorry justin but i have to say it?
why in the hell don't you think Russia has none of this, Just because the soviet union collapsed doesn't mean  the baltic fleet has been dismantled or soviet armor couldn't roll through europe again. You fail to realize Russia doesn't need to import its oil like the U.S. and simply for that reason in another long cold war Russia could prevail given time, AA , Sams? You seriously think China or Russia has neither of these things.

Furthermore,  where in gods name do you think America is going to pull up 500k greater troop numbers then Russia and China, You also fail to realize that the in the american forces, Already stretched thin would be fighting Chinese and Russia armies that aren't caught up in a conflict. And Either one of these countries could Draft Equal(Russia) or greater troop numbers (China). Which gives America a fail on the whole ground war part.

Economically America would be screwed entirely, Who do you think America owes money to? Currently China is near the top, call the debts and they are screwed, with the coming american dollar collapse we all know a cold war would go sour for America.

And on top of that don't count china or russia out on Tactical nuclear weapons, or chemical weapons, last i checked guiness still counts russia as holding the greatest amount of chemical weapons.



And now we see Russia postering on former Bloc countries. Personally justin i know any statement you make will have stupidity backing it, so please, bring numbers and not "500k more troops" and "we have AA's" as if China has never made a SAM sight in the world, Also justin to salt the wound, Remember how you guys get spanked by ever tiny little crapper you guys invade Korea, Vietnam, And most Currently in Iraq, now don't even for a minute think that Korean Generals haven't had meetings on strategy with Chinese Officals.

Check and Mate America

russia and china i don't think there  heads are communist anymore... and it will be strange and amazing If, US and their defeated by china

Mr. Bladehadranos

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8/19/2008 11:36:30 AM

Mr. Shraeder Report 8/19/2008 5:36:19 PM

Mr. Justin Report 8/18/2008 9:14:07 PMThis coming from a marine. Why cant ppl get over themselves and fuking stop with all this bull*beep*. Yes America does try to control everything but with the WMD most countries like Russia, Iran, etc. Mainly the whole middle east has, yes we get involved with trying to boss them around. Russia trys to boss smaller countries around because they think because they are the biggest country in the world that their the most bad ass which there not. Both Chinese and Russian Military suck. The strongest are American and Britian Armies. And our borders are so well defended that if Russia or China tried to invade the US borders. They would be destroyed. By sea you have our battle ships and missle subs, etc. If your in the US military you know all of them. By air you have AA, SAM, etc. Now if they have some luck by chance of landing on American soil. there are still about 500k more soldiers mixed between, Air Force, Marines, Army, and Navy. Then you got the personal armies, the rednecks ;) that is a force to be reckon with. Now if Russia and China invaded Europe, thats stupid as well. Europe are our greatest allies and we would help them in time of need. So one small attack on Europe and the US gets involved and Russia and China get spanked bad. So honestly Either one of these countries attacking eachother is stupidty and proves how stupid those countries are if they attack. Well let the flaming began cuz i know its going to happen. Sorry justin but i have to say it? why in the hell don't you think Russia has none of this, Just because the soviet union collapsed doesn't mean  the baltic fleet has been dismantled or soviet armor couldn't roll through europe again. You fail to realize Russia doesn't need to import its oil like the U.S. and simply for that reason in another long cold war Russia could prevail given time, AA , Sams? You seriously think China or Russia has neither of these things. Furthermore,  where in gods name do you think America is going to pull up 500k greater troop numbers then Russia and China, You also fail to realize that the in the american forces, Already stretched thin would be fighting Chinese and Russia armies that aren't caught up in a conflict. And Either one of these countries could Draft Equal(Russia) or greater troop numbers (China). Which gives America a fail on the whole ground war part. Economically America would be screwed entirely, Who do you think America owes money to? Currently China is near the top, call the debts and they are screwed, with the coming american dollar collapse we all know a cold war would go sour for America. And on top of that don't count china or russia out on Tactical nuclear weapons, or chemical weapons, last i checked guiness still counts russia as holding the greatest amount of chemical weapons. And now we see Russia postering on former Bloc countries. Personally justin i know any statement you make will have stupidity backing it, so please, bring numbers and not "500k more troops" and "we have AA's" as if China has never made a SAM sight in the world, Also justin to salt the wound, Remember how you guys get spanked by ever tiny little crapper you guys invade Korea, Vietnam, And most Currently in Iraq, now don't even for a minute think that Korean Generals haven't had meetings on strategy with Chinese Officals. Check and Mate America

lol no way america and britain will win against russia and china....

keep dreaming my friend =)

Wtf?

But moving on swiftly, *beep*roaches to win the era of life!

Mr. Justin Report 8/19/2008 5:14:07 AM

This coming from a marine.

Bullsheit. You're a 16 year old twat, not a marine, Justin. -.-

Lord Wraith Report 8/19/2008 7:40:47 AM

Mr. Justin Report 8/19/2008 5:14:07 AM This coming from a marine.     Bullsheit. You're a 16 year old twat, not a marine, Justin. -.-

a) Georgia attacked first, killed about 2000 Russian passport holders, and made refugees of 40,000 more. Only the demented leader of Georgia could possibly have believed the Russians wouldn't react. Georgia got spanked.

South-Ossetia is still Georgian territory. Why the *beep* would 2000 Russian passport holders live there? Because the Russians try to annex the area without a war slowly. I agree that they didn't do the right thing by attacking, but other ways wouldn't have helped.

b & c) - So true :')

About d)
How long do you think it'd take before such factories would reopen in the US? The US had the biggest arms production for like half a century. Those factories aren't all gone ;)

@ Justin

Dude, why so offending? People like you make me want to be komrads with Sovjet Russia.

Bah, you win.

We wont be the ones invading so it wont matter what they have! What they have on thier so called "mother land" is still nothing. M11 ballistic missles will be shot out of the sky with out new laser technology... Omg ur so fuking stupid. If the other countries dont send oil WE HAVE OUR OWN YOU TWAT. Its call Fort Nox. BILLIONS close to TRILLION of gallons of oil. Along with gold, military armory aircraft. So no we dont need ppl to send us oil. We can fuk the sellers up and go to our fall out Fort and use that oil.





Comon man, Do you seriously think that has been deployed in a missle defense system? Justin just shut up, i now believe you are just a 15 year old kid.

Mr. Justin

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8/18/2008 10:00:42 PMquick question is China a country were you have to join the military when you reach a certain age?i know we used to have the draft which you had to sign up for when your 18. I just didnt know if china had a similar thing.







to answer this in the easiest way i can, China does not Draft or Conscript troops, but maintains the Right to, it is considered a very big honor to be apart of the army to the chinese, and a couple million is nothing to china.

Lol, Americas army is not stretched out at all. There's only I would guess from knowledge around 200k in Iraq and below 50k in afgan. The armerican army has a size of 2,500,000 so its not really stretched out. Though we do have troops around the world its not a very big number so it's not even mentionable. Also each state has it's own "national guard" so thats worth something. Nah Russia wouldn't give America a spanking. Although it would be tough, America would adapt, and one use other forms of resources. Or two start drilling because there are plenty of places to drill in America for oil we're just not doing it. ( D*M enviromentalist )&nb*beep*erica is part of NATO so declaring war on any country in NATO is like declaring war on NATO itself.

About America's factories the whole thing( as in tanks/war planes/missles etc. ) isn't assembled in China. Though most parts probably come from China.

America's current debt is around

 9,609,856,930,483.89 dollars

Go pay that back :) This debt is increasing at a terrifying rate, so the later you read this post the higher it actually is. We are talking about an increase of ten-thousands of dollars per second. China holds a lot of dollars. They keep buying them due which America can continue their debt course. However this wont last forever. The moment China looses confidence in the American Dollar and sells pretty much everything they have you will see the supply of the American Dollar rise greatly, which means it looses value and due the huge quantities that China has, it will collapse and so will America. Be happy about it or not, but America is living on a time bomb that can go off at any time and China plays a key role in this. This is all talking in a worst-case scenario, but don't underestimate it. If nothing improvements, it will happen some day.

@Dude: Justin isn't offending! Read what he writes and you see its actually pretty funny what he tries to claim.Come on, don't tell me you can keep a straight face while reading that! :D

Lord Wraith Report 8/19/2008 2:01:33 PM

Thanks to Shraeder, I read Justin's post and feel a need to comment at Justin... You really are racist, arent you you stupid SOaB! Commy bastards, terrorists are pathetic fighters and all the other crap I couldnt be arsed to go through. You'd make one hell of a punching bag if you're this racist in RL... Or is the Monitor protecting you? The part about America and money.... America doesnt have that much money. It is in neck deep in debt and I believe it is on a deficit (I could be wrong). Now, I was an Economics student (A crappy one, granted) but its common sense that is you have an amount of money, and keep having to owe people this money, you are going to run out eventually. I once read that America has been living off WW2 spoils ever since the end of the war, although I question the credibility of the article as I saw it online. America is stretched, like it or not. I have no idea, so wont guess the numbers but they have troops all over the world, peace-keeping or fighting wars or what-not. They can not lightly afford a war with Russia AND China. And simple peasants, like you, do not have the training of real marines and that training and experience is invaluable. Too lazy to comment on the rest. These struck me the most.

Yes i am racists you dumb *beep*. against everyone, even my fellow crackers =P

When people argue, they should use proper spelling. It makes you seem smarter, even if you're not. :-D

Is it 'cause I was raised by penguins!?

ok, let me give you some insight.

IF ANYONE, ANYONE INVADES THE US, THEY WILL DIE.

Its that simple.


My tax dollars, my fathers, my mothers, my uncles, aunts, grandparents, friends, relatives, Brothers in Christ, etc, EVERYONE ON THIS SOIL, paid their wages to protect this country.  One of the solutions is the largest nuclear *beep*nal in the world.  and its not all "uranium bombs", or "hydrogen bombs"... there are tactical nukes, proton bombs, etc, lots of ADVANCED nuclear weaponry.  ...

Now believe me this, if a country brings war to American soil, then I'll ride the *beep*ing nuke onto their soil, and watch it detonate.  It'd be a proud way to go.

frankly, if they want to cause trouble, they have crazy sons of *beep*es like me to deal with, that WILL VOTE FOR nuclear strikes.

the end.
you attack, you get nuked, you die, game over.

Unless they use a nuke on us, we won't use nukes until it's a last resort. We wouldn't just immediately nuke the hell outta them. My penguin army would first invade their bases, they would then invent a weather machine that would make endless winter! :D