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Israel is ftw

Gaza is the worlds biggest prison. The siege on Gaza is illigal in the first place, and any rockets sent into land that legally belong to the Palestinians - even if its targeting civilians - is a legal action as per the Genevé convention. Israels response however goes against all international conventions. The only way to end the bloodshed is for Israel to withdraw from all occupied territories. But I dont see that happening, instead they are annexing more and more land for every year that goes forcing more and more Palestinians into refugee camps. Atm there is just one of two things a Palestinian can look to become in his life, victim or martyr.

I agree with Messiah. The Isrealli responses to Hamas activities in the region are completely uncalled for. Isreal is frequently overacting to things like this with attacks that result in huge numbers of civilian casualties.

VIVA LA PALESTINE  ^_^

happy new year everyone ^_^

and may god be with all the brave fighters in gaza ! =')

You don't mess with the Zohan!!!

That was a terrible movie! Don't watch it! Made me die a little inside!!!!

it seems to me that no one knows anything about the real reason they are fighting and have been for the longest time. you can see that clearly Israel looks like the bad guys but in fact they really are not. the palistiens have placed multpile  huge attacks on Israel way before this. their has been more deaths than this from Isreal than in Gaza. trust me, look up the real facts. you guys are only looking at a small portion of time right here. 4 days is nothing compared to all the lives lost in 4 years... study the bible maybe for a few weeks and you could easily find out the whole reason Israel is fighting. iv heard about 15 minutes a day is you are slow you can read it in a year.

the Israeli army has killed almost 400 people in that area in 5 days. That's almost 100 people a day. They've also wounded 1000+ people.

   Well they're not going to win most fearsome ruler...

sorry had to do it xD

Mr. Erebus Report 12/31/2008 11:25:30 AM

the Israeli army has killed almost 400 people in that area in 5 days. That's almost 100 people a day. They've also wounded 1000+ people.    Well they're not going to win most fearsome ruler... sorry had to do it xD

...*chuckles*...

i would think the msg is WE ARE STILL SCARY (untill obama withdraws some of the american support and we calm down a lil)

Just let them kill each other if they want to.  If they had any sense they would stop and agree on something.  I am tired of hearing about them fighting forever and ever.  Caradoc, I read the Bible and I still don't see a reason for war.  I doubt "God" would want everyone killing each other off in His name.

[[lets not start a religious debate either]]

Keep in mind that the modern nation of Israel was created in the mid-20th century.  Also, don't forget that the borders and governments of most of the nations in western Asia and northern Africa were drawn and created in the 20th century, as well.

funny how it cuts off once they figure out that he isnt gonna help their cause.

   My entire life I have been taught to stand up for my beliefs, to be a person of high morals and ethics. That's why I feel obligated to proscribe Israel  the most dangerous enemies to people. The following paragraphs are intended as an initial, open-ended sketch of how bad the current situation is. Aside from the fact that Israel's arguments don't even prove its point, Israel's attempts to welsh on all classes of agreements are much worse than mere ethnocentrism. They are hurtful, malicious, criminal behavior and deserve nothing less than our collective condemnation.

   I've seen alot of sad things like AIDS and Poverty. But I've also heard of great things like nonviolence, higher moralities, and treating all beings as ends in and of themselves—ideas which Israel's ignorant, unthinking, unholy brain is too small to understand. Israel insists that might makes right. How can it be so blind? Very easily. Basically, Israel wants to reinforce the concept of collective guilt(on the arabs, and to an extent, to the Germans and other countries Allied to Hitler) that is the root of all prejudice. Such intolerance is felt by all people, from every background.

   We all need to be aware of each other's existence as intelligent, feeling, human beings, even if some of us are uneducated, confused dips. Israel maintains that it understands the difference between civilization and savagery. This is hardly the case. Rather, there is growing evidence that says, to the contrary, that its plan is to commit confrontational, in-your-face acts of violence(not only against the gazans but against the rest of the arab and muslim world) intimidation. Israel's illigal settlers are moving at a frightening pace toward the total implementation of that agenda, which includes giving rise to the most jackbooted abuse of sovernty and human rghts I've ever seen. I really can't stress this enough, but Israel thinks it's good stratagy to starve and bomb the palstinians into subbmission to achieve ever lasting peace. All this is done while they continue to complain on how Hamas, Iran,Hezbllah and such are the problem and will one day be ready to strike at your front door.

    It is difficult to know how to respond to such monumentally misplaced opinions, but let's try this: No one likes being attacked by evil doomsday terrorists. Even worse, Israel exploits our fear of those attacks, which it claims will evolve any day now into biological, chemical, or nuclear attacks as a pretext to cover and excuse the atrocities of its followers. If you think that's scary, then you should remember that Israel has already begun causing mass chaos in the streets of gaza under those same pretextes. I wish I were joking but I'm not. 

   Many people respond to Israel's coldhearted equivocations in the same way that they respond to television dramas. They watch them; they criticize them; but they feel no overwhelming compulsion to do anything about them. That's why I insist we suggest the kind of politics and policies that are needed to restore good sense to this important debate and force both sides to the negotiating table.

   What's more, statements like, "The people with the smallest minds always have the biggest guns" accurately express the feelings of most of the people in the region (other then israel) towards israel. The goal must now be to replace today's chaos and lack of vision with order and a supreme sense of purpose. If you believe that that's a worthwhile goal, then I can unequivocally believe you have a kind and pure heart

Long live peace.

But as I've already said, I dont really care what goes on half a world away...

Then your a fool.

Who cares if its 4 deaths vs 500? If anyone launches an offensive weapon into my country, I say pound the *beep* out of them, they deserve it. It's war not "happy fun time, you kill one I kill one". And the Gazans have every right to respond in kind as well. 

unless you steal someone elses eye

Just to let you all know, Palestinians have been calling for UN troops to be stationed in between them for years.

Israel has rejected the request stating that they can handle the situation.

I personally believe Israel wants complete control of all of Palestine. They want to keep them in a submissive state for ever.

It's been 60 years of this bull*beep* with Israel. Rejecting UN peace keepers and Controlling Palestinian borders. They even control the aid and news agency's that are allowed to inter Palestine.

Legally, The Palestinian rockets are technically being fired on there own land, where the crazy ass settlers are illegally living, as the UN defines the borders of Palestine as the 1967 borders with Israel.

But you know, there the chosen people, so, international law dosent apply to them. God loves there race more then anyone elses. (that's actually the argument settlers use to justify there AIDS ridden rabid dog behavior of illegally moving into and settling in territory they have no right or business being in)

Background:

Following World War II, the British withdrew from their mandate of Palestine, and the UN partitioned the area into Arab and Jewish states, an arrangement rejected by the Arabs. Subsequently, the Israelis defeated the Arabs in a series of wars without ending the deep tensions between the two sides. The territories Israel occupied since the 1967 war are not included in the Israel country profile, unless otherwise noted. On 25 April 1982, Israel withdrew from the Sinai pursuant to the 1979 Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. In keeping with the framework established at the Madrid Conference in October 1991, bilateral negotiations were conducted between Israel and Palestinian representatives and Syria to achieve a permanent settlement. Israel and Palestinian officials signed on 13 September 1993 a Declaration of Principles (also known as the "Oslo Accords") guiding an interim period of Palestinian self-rule. Outstanding territorial and other disputes with Jordan were resolved in the 26 October 1994 Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace. In addition, on 25 May 2000, Israel withdrew unilaterally from southern Lebanon, which it had occupied since 1982. In April 2003, US President BUSH, working in conjunction with the EU, UN, and Russia - the "Quartet" - took the lead in laying out a roadmap to a final settlement of the conflict by 2005, based on reciprocal steps by the two parties leading to two states, Israel and a democratic Palestine. However, progress toward a permanent status agreement was undermined by Israeli-Palestinian violence between September 2003 and February 2005. An Israeli-Palestinian agreement reached at Sharm al-Sheikh in February 2005, along with an internally-brokered Palestinian ceasefire, significantly reduced the violence. In the summer of 2005, Israel unilaterally disengaged from the Gaza Strip, evacuating settlers and its military while retaining control over most points of entry into the Gaza Strip. The election of HAMAS in January 2006 to head the Palestinian Legislative Council froze relations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA). Ehud OLMERT became prime minister in March 2006; following an Israeli military operation in Gaza in June-July 2006 and a 34-day conflict with Hizballah in Lebanon in June-August 2006, he shelved plans to unilaterally evacuate from most of the West Bank. OLMERT in June 2007 resumed talks with the PA after HAMAS seized control of the Gaza Strip and PA President Mahmoud ABBAS formed a new government without HAMAS.

Ok.Anyone who thinks Israel is a bunch of *beep*s, think again.You ain't in the line of random rockets smashing up your city every day are you?

Don't tell me about it, i served in Irak for 3 months a year ago, i've seen some horrible things there.

Mr. Lamalas Report 1/5/2009 9:28:48 PM

Don't tell me about it, i served in Irak for 3 months a year ago, i've seen some horrible things there.

Oh rly?
Considering you served in Iraq 3 months ago

I thought you would have at least been able to spell Iraq correctly

*Bs Alert*

lol how does going to Iraq mean you learn to spell it? Thats bs, you dont join the army to get spelling lessons geez...

The doctor from Norway again,speaking on whats happening


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Yeah.....Israel isent looking to hit civilians..

theyre not trying to hit civilians sorra, its jus an unfortunate side-effect of the war.

jason did u even read what sorra said ?

they bombed 3 UN run schools , surely it doesnt take a genius to figure out that people are hiding in it

also isnt it against international law to attack the UN ?

The Franco-Egyptian plan was given increasing urgency by the Israeli mortar strike near a U.N. school that killed 39 Palestinians and stained the streets with blood.

The United Nations said the school was sheltering hundreds of people displaced by the onslaught on Hamas militants. Israel said its troops returned fire on a Hamas squad that fired mortars at them from nearby.

Israel's military said its shelling — the deadliest single episode since Israeli ground forces invaded Gaza on Saturday following a weeklong air bombardment — was an attack on a military target and accused Hamas militants of using civilians as cover.

Christopher Gunness of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, responsible for the school, said the agency is "99.9 percent certain there were no militants or military activity in its school."

That would not necessarily contradict Israel's claim that the militants were just outside.

Gunness demanded an investigation, and punishment for anyone found to have violated international law.

Two residents of the area who spoke with The Associated Press by telephone said they saw a small group of militants firing mortar rounds from a street near the school. They spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. Gunness said 1,300 people were taking shelter from the shelling at the school.

Oops, gotta stink when the residents even fess up that the ones being targeted were the ones firing mortars right next to 'em lol