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When we had unlimited KDs I was spending far too much of my life playing this game.  I would log on first thing in the morning, at lunchtime, as soon as I got home from work, sometimes I'd be on all evening...

Because I was having fun playing the game I'd often log into IRC or MSN and chat to anyone and everyone.  I had 45 contacts in my msn list and 40 of them were VU players.  Sometimes I'd still be on at 2 am just chatting to people all over the world.

I was late for work more than once because of VU.  I logged on on Christmas Day - my family thought VU was some sort of weird cult.

I used to think when I was going away to see people - did they have a broadband connection - or not...  My 10 year old Godson knew all about VU - I have allowed him to name armies for me - he knew exactly who Legacy were.  My 5 year old nephew has sat with me and watched me play.

People at work knew better than to interrupt me at lunchtime.  Even my boss knew what VU is.  Colleagues would ask me how the war was going.

For the few short eras in which I ran a Kingdom it took over my life.  I won't go into detail of how sad and obsessive I was about it because former Rumour players know all too well and the evidence is still there for all to see in a certain forum.....

Since the game changed to 3 player KDs it has become less and less interesting for me.  I cannot give the time commitment that such a format needs.  If I am away for three days there are no viceroys and knights to step up and guard my cities.  There is no large Kd network all supporting each other and making this more than just another computer game.

These days I am on time for work every day.  I log on at lunchtime for about 10 minutes and then I'm bored.  I go to see the family for the weekend and don't even log on.  I haven't logged onto MSN or iRC for weeks and I don't feel the need to.  I'm always in bed before midnight.

Thank you Zeta for giving me back my life.  Pity you had to wreck the game to do it.

*grabs a pink hankey out and dabs eyes

<3 Spooky  

I agree with Spooky, thanks Zeta.  You had to wreck a great game for me to get my life back.  This game has begun boring, lost its appeal.  Why do I still log on?  I guess I refuse to believe the love affair is over with :(  Thanks for breaking my heart. 

of course there was no need to ruin the game to give Spooky back her life...you could have just banned her and let the game still be cool:D

ahh this game getting boring aint gonna give me my life bak.i got plenty of other games out there. :P

Would you really have your "life" back? What exactly is having a "life"? If having a "life" means talking to good friends, and having fun, then you have always had a life. It's simply a matter of how you look at it. Sure you were late for work, didn't talk to friends in real life as much, whatever. But let me ask you this...

What is truely important in life? Money? No. Power? No. Happyness, yes happyness. If you go to work at a job you hate, and hang out with people you despise, is that really having a "life"? Life is all about the pursuit of happyness. And this game was once a source of great happyness in my life, but then the kingdom limits were changed, the battle system was ruined, the magic system was ruined, several dedicated veteran players have left already because of these improvements. Is it really worth losing more of your crowd Zeta?

As the game stands now, and in previous eras before the bad improvements occured, we had a good base of players. People got along, Legacy won every era due to shady buisness mostly :P   and everyone else heckeled Legacy for being so good. Sure Legacy got on the forums and complained like no other, for what reason I still don't know. But at the end of the day, everyone was friends. We all got along, had a good time being beaten by Legacy, and also bashing Legacy. The game was great, no real improvements were needed, except maybe some minor adjustments. So what does Zeta do? He completely revamps the entire game, improvements everything. For the worst in big picture.

Sure, 3 man kingdoms was a good idea, but the problem is diplomacy. As long as there IS diplomacy, it won't matter if you make 2 man kingdoms, 5 man kingdoms, or 30 man kingdoms. The people who want to play together will. For instance, this era, Legacy with their 6 seperate kingdoms, all under the same banner, and 7 kingdoms all working together against them. Now tell me, how is that any different from unlimited kingdoms? Except of course for the fact we couldn't all merge and the such. But it really wasn't all that different. The Legacy guys worked together, and we worked together.

I will be honest as well, the battle system and magic system were both changed, and in my personal opinion, they suck now. But that I can live with. With the new systems it seems like there are more big failures and more lucky people out there. Sure you can rationalize it, "Well sometimes the general makes a mistake on the field of battle...", and sometimes pigs fly to the north pole and back. If you want to say it's more like real life then your retarded. In real life, any good commander is going to call a retreat if he is being beaten, sure sometimes the entire army will die, SOMETIMES. But it doesn't happen often.

/endrant

Bleah, I will have more, probably a few suggestions on improvements at a later time. Please look for them and see what you think.

"For instance, this era, Legacy with their 6 seperate kingdoms, all under the same banner, and 7 kingdoms all working together against them"

I just counted 16, thats a bit more than 7, lol.

Who the hell would want nude pics of a horse?

Now Hungry, you know perfectly well that I created an army called Nude Pics this era especially for you.  Someone killed it.  Now was that you?  :)

Dingo - the big difference in 7 (or however many it is/was - I reckon about 12) KDs working together against 6 Legacy Kds as opposed to us both being UL KDs is that our organisation as an Alliance was not nearly as good as theirs.  It takes much more dedication and commitment to co-operate properly  if you are not part of the same KD.  Also you actually have to agree who is going to run the show and have some sort of mechanism where you ALL communicate be it a forum or an IRC channel.....  they got it right this era - kudos to them - we did not organise all together as well as we should.

Maybe Zeta will listen to the call to bring back UL KDs on Fantasia. 

Don't worry Civ - I'll make sure you don't suffer.

(really I don't know where this idea comes from - I'm the sweetest girl you could ever hope to meet......)

Spanky spanky spanky...you never cease to amaze me. I still don't know if it's really that you are just that dumb, or if you really have an issue with taking words out of context. Allow me to ellaborate...

"Legacy won every era due to shady buisness mostly :P   and everyone else heckeled Legacy for being so good"

The above is what I wrote.

"Legacy won every era due to shady buisness mostly :P   and everyone else heckeled Legacy for being so good"

The bold part is key. My statement was, Legacy won every era....due to shady buisness mostly :P

What this implies is that I am not serious about the shady buisness, though I do know for fact that Legacy HAS used exploits and bugs to their advantage, ALTHOUGH no more than other kingdoms.

Sometimes I feel like I'm back in middle school with you Legacy fools. You may be good at this game, but some of you are dumber than a pile of bricks.

wtf.

If a computer game is taking over your life so much then don't play it.

Freakshow.

Of course a little ":p" is enough to dispell the bitterness and camouflage the flame on a forum where most of the people dont know eachother...

I can type up countless smileys..does that reflect upon what I think  (rethorical question)? - No.

so thats why i havent heard from Valar. dang i felt something missing from this era. i havent threatend Valar. so here it goes...........................................................................ok i cant think of anything. but i will.

On Topic- yes i agree iv'e logged in less and less because i've lost contact with many friends in here due to kingdom cap.

Eh... I've learned never to underestimate ZeTa when it comes to screwing the game up, but hope you're right! :p

(Edited by Mr. Spanky 11/15/2006 11:49:04 AM)

*gags and pukes all over Erpiu*

stop shoving that stupid 3 man limit down our throats already!  gah!

Yes, listen to him. Meatwad is a very simple minded creature and for him to actually make sense is amazing.

Dont keep the 3 limit kds, its just annoying. The same old players will stick together anyway but it will be a mess. The 3 kd limit thing was to protect the weak players, let them have that limit on mantrax and let Fant be for the guys who can take a beating without leaving the game.

*edit: I didnt bother to read through the thread, and probably wont.

(Edited by Mr. Pilkington 11/15/2006 6:37:48 PM)

Erpiu wrote "If the KD limit keeps people far from addiction....why to remove the limit? Thats the demonstration to keep at least one world with the limit will help people like Efrandor or Spooky in real life.

We want people successful in real life as well playing VU. Keep the KD limit..Zeta."

Tell me you realised that my original post was meant to be sarcastic - or is it ironic?  One of those anyway.

Efrandor and Meatwad have it right.  It's not so much FUN any more. I thought that was what I said but obviously it went WOOOOOOOOSH.

Let's get unlimeted kd....that way you can have way more friends...=)

Yar, what a new guy, get out of here new guy, we don't like new guys here. Punk....

:P

Oh btw Camel, you will learn quickly who the Legacy people are. They are all pompous and apparently can not read or interpret normal persons talk properly. They seem to take everything you say out of context and have no idea what the word humble means.

To be honest I think they may all be one 11 year old with no life other than VU who is kept locked in their basement because they are too big of a freak to acctually take into public. Though I could easily be wrong :)

I only played one other era. A long time ago I think it was Adelbert.Ghostalker what I mean is with unlimeted kingdoms you will met more people.

You see

More people = more talking with them = more friends

You're more likely to be friends with someone if you're in the same side.   

Just coming back to this, a long time ago i know but an example of too many members here:

DARK

The Dark Riders

69

Mr. Justin Fontain

79

 

69 members? Over the top in my opinion, i say bring back low man KD-caps like before. Small KD's like Templar Crusaders or Girl Power with strong player/power ratio would benefit rather than pumping 69 players, or even 30 for that matter. Down with massive KD's, or have a seperate kd cap world like GvE or something.