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I dislike religious people. The morales of the texts of most religions is quite nice. I just dislike the people who take it that seriously.

-Rob

nothing wrong with religion, if you WW II wouldn't have happend most poeple would still believe in god.. this is a fact, just wanted to let you guys know;) oh and i don't believe in jezus and god etc.. but some story's from the bible are proven, some are just story's... its proven that natural disasters could have done those things (great flood, mozes, sodom, jericho) and the garden of eden probably was an oasis in the middle of the dessert, its a metafore. the poeple in the oasis got to many kids and then they ran out of food and god punished them... or as natural cause, plague killed most so they had to flee.

Yes, those are good lessons alright. The bible taught me to hate black people, Jews, homosexuals and women...right before I realised it didn't have any good guidelines whatsoever. If a person is going to pick some stories as guidelines and not others then why not watch our favorite television show that talks about life and get lessons from it? I hear Homer Simpson is quite insightful, and he doesn't hate minorities.

I found all these doing a cursory google search with a 5 minute time limit:

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)

"For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)

"If a man lies with a woman during her sickness and uncovers her nakedness, he has discovered her flow, and she has uncovered the flow of her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from her people." (Leviticus 20:18)

"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45)

 "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. (Timothy 2:11-14)

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
-- I Corinthians 14:34-35 (NIV)

"Have you allowed all the women to live?" he [Moses] asked them.... "Now ... kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
-- Numbers 31:1-18 (NIV)

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son ... Then shall his father and his mother ... bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die.
-- Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (AV)

(Matthew quoting Jesus) "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother..."
-- Matthew 10:34-35 (AV)

there are bad quotes like the ones you found, yet you will notice that christains are not goin round acting like hitler or the KKK

So if people are perfectly able to tell what is right and what is wrong without the bible then why have it? If I went around today passing out bulletins saying a bunch of nice things like "my god gives us rains and love and puppies and icecream; he just hates Jews and women and *beep*s" I'd be arrested and/or beaten on the street. If you can tell what's right and wrong then you don't need a bible; and if you CAN'T tell then it's terribly dangerous.

most christians muslims jews etc are peaceful

       Yes thats why muslims call everyone but themselfs infedels. Ya most muslims are peaceful thats why thay plant IEDs, have car bombings, kill christions, jews, budists, and every other "infedel" just becouse thay are not muslem. also muslems dont even like themselfs ie:Sunnis and Sheites kill one another. all in all all religons are eval in the way thay would wrather use force to get what thay wont then deplomicy ex: ireland and great britan only diference is that ireland is christion and britan is prodistant and becouse of that the Irish republican army "and irish terrorist group" waged a war v.s. the prodistant northern ireland which is part of the UK. and if you look through history there are tons of religous confrontations. during the plague jews were slaughterd becouse thay "poisoned the water, and were fowling the air" the Holy Crusades, when constintine had to force the muslems from spain in the 1000-1500 "i dont know the exact years the war was fought. but open google and you will see the hell religons went through to kill one another.

       And the NAZIs were trying to make a religon on the basis of atlantis, thay thought after atlantis was destroyd the prists exscaped and went to the himalas and long story short the nazis tryed selective breeding to make a super race and rule the world preaching their religon. yet agen open google.

       and now i rest my case.

"muslims call everyone but themselfs infedels"
Didn't the Crusaders call everyone infedels as well?

"Ya most muslims are peaceful thats why thay plant IEDs.....etc"
That is a very, very small % of that religion.

"Sunnis and Sheites kill one another"
I know if you look at history there are several Chiristians who do not like each other......take the Catholics and the Church of England

"you will see the hell religons went through to kill one another."
Too true, but one thing Google won't show you is what Religion has done for people. When the Jews were prosecuted they turned to God, when a person has no hope that person turns to God, when there is nothing left there is always religion and God (or Gods if you want to take it back to the Romans, Greeks, etc).

and teh majority of the people there want to vote in religous laws or even change teh constitution to be more religous, then LET THEM

I was suprised to see this since I thought Americans took the constitution to be never changed and always obeyed. The constitution is saving the us from and even larger take-over by religious interests.

jews are not all that bad if you leave out the fact thay thay are vary secritive

LOL that was a powerfully racist thing to say.

when there is nothing left there is always religion and God

Fine there is, but what in the world does THAT do? Nothing. Religion and praying and hoping and knowing an imaginary man loves you does NOT solve your problems. If you are poor you need to get a job, not pray to a god. If you are sick you need medicince. If you are going to die anyway you need to spend time with your family and start thinking about what death really means, not comforting yourself with make-belief. That is what religion all boils down to: people playing make-belief to comfort themselves against the idea that a)the world and everything in it is a crazy accident and b)when you die you are never ever coming back, and the world goes on without you. That sounds dark, but when you can embrace these facts you can find that life is the most amazing thing you will ever experience, and you might not squander it saying "well when I'm dead I get a second crack at it anyway".

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Mr. Romus The II Report 12/29/2007 11:53:48 PM

I wont to tell you that not all of my information came from google. "I know if you look at history there are several Chiristians who do not like each other......take the Catholics and the Church of England" this just strangthins my position, for i was not only speaking for muslems. "That is a very, very small % of that religion" I am srry to tell you but its not that small, or if you call all of iran's population small also look at africa in nigeria the muslems waged a jihad or crusade to convert all christions to islam. Yes the number of ppl is small well the ppl that do it all the time, if you look at the ppl that are not violent but suport ex:building IEDs, spreding propiganda, exc...0 "Didn't the Crusaders call everyone infedels as well?" im srry the muslems patented it as a way to clasify anyone that is not islomic.

That is about one of the mot stupied things iv ever herd in my life

Im not going to bother showing you the all facts but i'll give a heads up. The Word "Infedel" was created by the Pope during the first crusade. It was first used against muslims because the Crusaders saw them as Infedels on what they considered Christan soil, The city of Jerusalem

Anyways back to the comment that more then a small % of muslims are evil

Are you always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?

Where in the world did you find that awful quote about black people? There's no way that's in any bible cuz they didn't have the plantations back then. I don't get your point.

Yeah...so like...what was your point? That what you said was less racist than that? Well what you said wasn't violent but what you said came from the medieval times. It was a campaign by the catholics in germany to make people scared of Jewish people. They weren't secretive then and aren't now; it's a stereotype that never really disappeared. So0o0o0o, basically what you said was like if the kkk were in medieval times doing racist propaganda on wood carvings and you wholeheartedly believed it.

ps if anyone noticed, I frequently defend the Jewish PEOPLE as examples of how religious people oppress others, but it is not the Jewish RELIGION that I defend in any way. Palestine is a good example of why I wouldn't defend the Jewish religion either.

I have nuthing agensed the jews, and thay are vary secritive and keep to their self and that is why they were prosicuted. open a book it will agree with me im telling you

open a book it will agree with me im telling you

The only book I've seen which backs you up is Mein Kampf and those that explain where that nonsense came from, and I am quite familiar with books.