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Car companies mad that mistake themselves. Ford is the only one that didnt take that government loan they said Fu(k off and stuck through it and they made it.

And with Iran and Korea he will probably be in charge of 4 wars soon enough

As I said, I hate O'bama and his policies, so, I'm racist? Well, I hated Clinton and his policies too, what does that make me you dumba$$?

No, Karac. That don't make you a racist. But I take it you just don't like anything, that smells just a little of leftwing (democratic).

I'm sure leaders like Ghengis Kahn, Napoleon (hhhmmmm, no not him due to his poor childhood) but maybe some Russian Zar's or Chinesee Emperors would be more in your taste. A Born Leader from the good old days!!!!

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Though it IS early to say, my point of wiev is, that Obama is one of the best thing USA have "given" the world for quite some decades. Giving some HOPE for the future. And it should be in that light you should see him get the Nobel prize for Peace.

First of all a Nobel Peace Prize is an award for someone who has DONE SOMETHING to deserve it.

What has he done?
Made peace with one half of the middle east (ISH).

He broke ties with one side to build ties with the other leaving a half and half tie with each side. No we dont just have to worry about one sides extremist but maybe both now? just an opinion.

What about that debt?
LETS PAY CAR COMPANIES SO POOR PEOPLE CAN TRADE IN CLUNKER CARS AND BY CARS THAT THEY CANT EVEN AFFORD THE INSURANCE FOR!!!

^_^

Hes spending more Government money when it isnt needed.
Laissez Faire is a good motto and why are we not sticking to it?
Im all for federal power and stuff, but a power government doesnt have to have its hand in all the cookie jars.

All the government needs to do is create more jobs and everything will get better.

YET!

HE KEEPS THROWING $CHANGE$ AT EVERYONE THINKING IT WILL FIX THINGS.

Personally no matter who the president would be, black, white, any religion, any political view, any age; i would still be outraged.

Nobel is to sacred to give it to someone who has done as little as him to help anyone. Everything he is doing or trying to do is quick fix that will go wrong in a decade and once again bring the democratic party back in.

Thats what clinton did.

NEXT TO NOTHING!

Why?

because they knew that if they rode the wave and let things flow then it would go bad during the republican turn and bring votes back to them. Its political sabotage and i literally detest the politics of this country.

Our country was not designed for a 2 party system...

or any party system for this matter.

We cant agree on anything unless the house and senate (or every branch of gov) is majority of one party. Now about half of our nations people are third party but because there are so many separate 3rd parties they're votes are barely a fraction of the dominant parties. American politics have turned for the bureaucratic worst.

i went off on a tangent

either way

OBAMA= NO PEACE PRIZE

i would prbably being saying the same thing about McCain if it were said about him too.

Face the facts they're pushing to give him one because hes the first (kinda) Black president of the US. Not because of what hes done. When he does something worthy of a Nobel then give it to him, but that type of thing takes a little more (more like a lot more) that barely a year.

The largest cause of the USA's deficit is the area that contains: Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, and the new healthcare plan under Obama.  It takes up a huge chunk of the USA's budget and Obama will just be adding more to it.  Sure, Bush made a huge mistake by giving a gigantic tax cut that killed the USA's surplus from Clinton's administration(about 400 billion I believe?) and it absolutely destroyed that surplus.  Since then, spending has just gone up.  Defense spending is the 2nd largest cause of the deficit.  We need to cut spending, not add another burden onto our backs...the healthcare, while having very good intentions, may add to it...but according to Obama it should actually increase jobs(due to businesses no longer having to NOT hire workers because of having to supply healthcare coverage).  It is all iffy...
Obama is trying to prime the pump by pumping billions and billions of dollars into bailing out industries and businesses with the intention of avoiding a complete economic collapse which would take years and years to climb out of.  Immediately, it just digs us a deeper hole, in the long run, no one knows really...

I have talked with lawyers and advisors to government officials as this is what I have atm...I didn't exactly take notes but it should all be as I have heard it.

I want a Nobel Peace Prize! I...uhhh...wrote lots of stories...and stuff...some of them had shorte peaceful moments before the bloody fighting began...that totally justifies one!

The Architect Report 01:54:05 Oct 10th 09

Bush was handed the country when the defecit was decreasing and we were headed in the right direction with education and healthcare. Bush came in and threw it all in reverse. And no, I don't consider myself to be at all liberal in any sense or definition of the word. I support Obama because first off he is our current president, secondly because I think through him we have a chance of turning this thing around. I did not like Bush, not because he was a republican, which I could really care less about, but more because of the fact that the man had no idea how to run a country(Obama). The fact that I don't like Bush does not make me liberal, it makes me a person that does not like Bush... He handed a heaping, steaming and putrid pile of crap to Obama that will take years to cleanse ourselves of(the fact that he wanted crap kinda scares me). Through McCain we saw another Bush, and that lead to a longer war with no end in sight, an increase in defense spending which played a major role in multiplying our defecit and a lack of interest in doing anything to fix our education or healthcare systems. Through Obama we saw someone who had an interest in ending the war when it is prudent to do so, someone who looked to advance medical research and fix healtchcare and education...along with all the other problems Handed down by Bush. It was time for something other than another Bush, we didn't need any more of that. And if you wanna tell me that Bush wasn't at fault for the standing of the trade balance, then you're full of it. Yes, I do realize that since the early 1960's the United States has held a defecit of some sort, however Bush took the standard yearly defecit from an average of $49.8 billion and made it skyrocket to $817.3 billion in a single year and kept the country on track to keep increasing spending as such. In Bush's 8 years of presidency he spent 131x more than the average of the years past. Now tell me that didn't play a freaking massive role in ending us up where we are now...and back it up with something more than made up words. I used Wikipedia, you can too.

Alright first of all don't get started on obamas spending I don't wanna fucking hear it because it is complete bullshit.

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

And you know what Obama will end with? He will end with another stinking pile of crap having done nothing but fuck us over more.

Btw on the war how thats going? Last time I checked he was sending more troops to afganistan... wars with no end in sight.. hmm that sure does sound like Bush.. but WAIT NO ITS OBAMA! And stop comparing bush and obama already. Obamas a big boy now and he can take responsibility for himself. As for the plan that Obama supposively made.. with troops out by 2012 I remember this being talked about way before Obama even showed up in the picture. So no obama isn't ending the wars.. but rather expanding one....

As for the one blue line I have highlighted I can agree, Bush's policies held that back.

As for "fixing" healthcare and education. So far his he hasn't done anything for education besides give us a speech about how we should try really hard. Untill I see some real change I DON'T GIVE A DAM ABOUT HIS "INTEREST". I want so see results. As for healthcare I believe most can agree reform is needed, BUT it is the kind of reform he is pushing that is so socialist, so not American that I shall and never trust. NEVER trust the government EVER. THEY SUCK AT PREDICTING EVERYTHING. Look at the past whenever government takes control the system turns to shit, and becomes more and more expensive. Don't look just 10 years, 20 years, 50 years, LOOK THOUSANDS OF YEARS. THROUGHOUT every civilization, every empire, every nation government is never the answer for something that should be privately owned. When the government predicts a nations needs wrong you get the famine that occured in China... government is always predicting it wrong. Obama said if the second stimulus did pass  unemployment wouldn't go over 8.5%.. or was it 9%. I forget now but unemployment WENT EVEN HIGHER. Now sure you can say oh well thats hard to predict. Hey shut the hell up because you know what government will take the cheapest way out and their predictions are almost always wrong. I mean look at medicare and social sercurity.. its bankrupting our god dam country....

Also while looking at unemployment the unemployment rate is actually larger than 10% because the government only counts those ACTIVELY looking for a job, it doesn't count those who are staying at home doing nothing...

 http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2009/05/actual_us_unemployment_158.html

I'm sure I probably mispelled something above and I just want to say I DON'T CARE lol

Total agreeance with Arthur Dent, the Nobel Peace Prize is a waste of time... I mean, Arafat won it one year as well, and no matter what your feelings are towards the man, I don't think he caused peace in Israel....

Lol, but yeah, its too early to call Obama a failure.... we have to give him more time to see if he can change anything. And I'm not saying this as a democrat, I'm a registered Republican and pretty conservative, but he's our nation's president and he hasn't had enough time to get our scorn... yet ;)

"I used Wikipedia, you can too"  ????

Architect, Wikipedia is a High-Schoolish source of unreliable information (and a small recession was forming when Bush came in).

"Deficit" is like a crystal ball of where we might be in years to come, Bush did what Carter, Clinton, & Obama didn't/can't/won't do: Raise Revenues to the Treasury (The USA checking Account)

As Master Mind knows, Heritage.org is awesome!

Mr. Mcmax The Magic Troll Report 10:12:05 Oct 10th 09

As I said, I hate O'bama and his policies, so, I'm racist? Well, I hated Clinton and his policies too, what does that make me you dumba$$? No, Karac. That don't make you a racist. But I take it you just don't like anything, that smells just a little of leftwing (democratic). I'm sure leaders like Ghengis Kahn, Napoleon (hhhmmmm, no not him due to his poor childhood) but maybe some Russian Zar's or Chinesee Emperors would be more in your taste. A Born Leader from the good old days!!!!

I have no problem with Democratic views on some items, just when it comes to socialized healthcare, etc. I do not see eye to eye with them. I listen to what makes the most sense, O'Bama's policies (for the most part) will end badly, I hope he does great, but I am seeing bad things in the future.

I laugh at another broken promise that Obama made on his campaign. If you study our Constitution, you will find that Obama can request Congress to allow for soldiers to be sent to a certain destination. This doesn't qualify as a war declaration, only Congress can declare. Bush sent troops to the Middle East yet no war was started. Obama said that that he would reduce troops in a certain amount of months ...

AND I QUOTE..."But in 16 months we should be able to reduce our combat troops, provide some relief to military families and our troops and bolster our efforts in Afghanistan so that we can capture and kill bin Laden and crush al Qaeda.”

It has been 9 months already. He has another 7.5 months to fulfill this promise or else he has once again fooled us all (well most of us :p)

The Architect, please review once again your words here:

"Through McCain we saw another Bush, and that lead to a longer war with no end in sight, an increase in defense spending which played a major role in multiplying our defecit and a lack of interest in doing anything to fix our education or healthcare systems."

The Architect


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01:54:05 Oct 10th 09 Bush was handed the country when the defecit was decreasing and we were headed in the right direction with education and healthcare. Bush came in and threw it all in reverse.

And no, I don't consider myself to be at all liberal in any sense or definition of the word.

I support Obama because first off he is our current president, secondly because I think through him we have a chance of turning this thing around.

I did not like Bush, not because he was a republican, which I could really care less about, but more because of the fact that the man had no idea how to run a country. The fact that I don't like Bush does not make me liberal, it makes me a person that does not like Bush...

He handed a heaping, steaming and putrid pile of crap to Obama that will take years to cleanse ourselves of.

Through McCain we saw another Bush, and that lead to a longer war with no end in sight, an increase in defense spending which played a major role in multiplying our defecit and a lack of interest in doing anything to fix our education or healthcare systems. Through Obama we saw someone who had an interest in ending the war when it is prudent to do so, someone who looked to advance medical research and fix healtchcare and education...along with all the other problems Handed down by Bush.


Bush was handed a country that was heading into a recession even before 9/11.  At the end of Clinton's term it was already starting to go downhill.  Much of the problems for the economy (deregulation, Fannie/Freddie Mae giving out cheap mortgages)...wanna guess when the started?  Hmmm?  YOU GUESSED IT!  In Clinton's term.  (Granted, just like you cannot blame Bush for everything, Clinton is not to blame for everything as most of the stuff is actually run by Congress and the Treasury department and not the Pres).  You seriously have to stop looking at politicians as the President and a bunch of scrubs.

And, McCain is NOTHING Bush.  I HATE people that simply say they are both Republicans so they must be the same thing.  McCain was the Republican in Congress that LEAST votes for Bush proposals.  Bush wanted big spending, McCain was completely the opposite.  They mostly agreed on foreign policy, but that really was about it...

Obama has been endorsed by

William Ayers (Weatherman Underground bomber, unrepentant domestic terrorist)
(Member Communist Party USA, Early mentor to Obama)

Jeremiah Wright (Black Liberation militant, racist, and Pastor)

Tony Rezko (Corrupt Financier, ties to Terror Financing)

Louis Farrakhan (Nation of Islam Leader, racist, anti-American)

Hamas Terrorist Organization (Islamic Terrorist Organization)

Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades (Islamic Terror Organization)

Raila Odinga (Fundamental Islamic Candidate, Kenya, Obama’s Cousin)

Daniel Ortega (Marxist Sandinista Leader) Nicaragua

Raul Castro (Hard-line Communist Leader, Communist Party Illinois (US Communist Political Party)

Socialist Party USA (Marxist Socialist Political Party)

The New Black Panther Party (Black Militant Organization, anti-American and racist)
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Global leaders are obsequiously flocking to congratulate US President Barack Obama for being awarded the Nobel Peace Price for his “extraordinary efforts” to promote world peace, but nobody is aware of him actually accomplishing anything in his short 9 months in office.

The Norwegian committee which awards the prize states airily that he is being given it “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples.”
It cities his support of nuclear disarmament (though he has not actually reduced nuclear stockpiles or combated proliferation), his concern over climate change (which he has yet to act on), and his desire for peace in the middle east (which remains unrealised).

Even supporters can be seen pondering whether it might not have been better to wait for him to have longer in office, and his political opponents in the US are infuriated by what they see as a partisan endorsement of a man who has yet to do anything more concrete than issue a series of pleasant sounding speeches.

Previously the prize has been awarded to joke presidents such as Jimmy Carter, as well as the likes of Al Gore and Yasser Arafat, causing some to wonder if the prize does not now simply reflect the politics of the awarding body and not any concrete achievements on the part of laureates.
Via The Economist

obama=failure not only because he makes american's look like stomachless mice, but he prettymuch ruined our economy. His IDIOTIC stimulus plans and other pointless massed spendings helped to pull the plug on the dollar. you know it's being replaced by the yen and euro for oil trading? if we had listened to the conservatives who argued that the best way is to let the economy run it's natural cycle and lower taxes in the bad times, then we wouldn't be anywhere near this mess right now.

oh, and btw, Israel is going to bomb Iran, and they're maybe our biggest ally. another one of Obama's failures was to get rid of the missile defense program that was going to save all our butts if a nuclear war started that Bush planned.

these are just 2 random things off the top of my head, go to www.drudgereport.com for facts backing up my claims. its a site that compiles the latest news stories from tons of different sources.

lol, SAME here...

205 canditates were nominated for the peaceprice this year, that is a new record.

 I dont think its a good idea that Obama, got it, not that he couldnt make a difference, but because  the US govt or the citizens of the world is not ready to make peace at all.

I love the Idea behind giving it to Obama, but I strongly doubt its gonna turn out how its ment, I dont think the peaceprize has the recognition it needs or that people are willing to try. I wonder if you understand the reasons they gave him the nobel price? Outside what he is or what he has done? What do they want to accomplish?

I posted earlier a link to lecture no 1  given by Michael Nagler at Berkley University, on non violence,  how many was interessted in seeing that?

your discussing american politics.... ???? As if it makes a difference?

Excerpts from the Will of Alfred Nobel

"The whole of my remaining realizable estate shall be dealt with in the following way: the capital, invested in safe securities by my executors, shall constitute a fund, the interest on which shall be annually distributed in the form of prizes to those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit on mankind.

The said interest shall be divided into five equal parts, which shall be apportioned as follows:

 one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery or invention within the field of physics; one part to the person who shall have made the most important chemical discovery or improvement; one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery within the domain of physiology or medicine; one part to the person who shall have produced in the field of literature the most outstanding work in an ideal direction; and one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.

 The prizes for physics and chemistry shall be awarded by the Swedish Academy of Sciences; that for physiology or medical works by the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm; that for literature by the Academy in Stockholm, and that for champions of peace by a committee of five persons to be elected by the Norwegian Storting.

 It is my express wish that in awarding the prizes no consideration be given to the nationality of the candidates, but that the most worthy shall receive the prize, whether he be Scandinavian or not." (end)

I know the other nobel awards does not get that much attention, but there is other pople receiving a price this year within other genres.

The Nobel peace price task is obviously to promote and reward peace. Another question; Who is in charge and who has the influence? The leaders or the masses???

Mr. Yurnero Report 11:37:56 Oct 10th 09

I dont bother with reading all these comments, considering the fact that half the vu community is a mindless bunch of wormongerers. And their intelligence is rather low. The price was given too Obama as a strategical weapon of peace. They probably won't admit too this, but the fact still remains, the peace price was given too him, mainly too put pressure on president. This too enhance and further push his will too bring diplomacy into the world, rather then weapons. I've been watching all the channels in the world. And everyone says its too early and so on. But why reward someone for something they've done, when there's a possibility, nothing else will be done in the future. Giving the peace price too Obama, gives him status, as a figure of peace.

Dont - Needs to be don't.

Price - As pointed out by Sir Struddle, it needs to be prize...

Too - You used the wrong one of these more times than I can count.

Wormongers = Did you mean to say whore-mongers or war-mongers? I'm really not sure...

Strategical = Not a word, Mr. Bush.

All the channels in the world, HOLY CRAP! How do you find time for VU!? Direct TV has 1,020 alone!

Its - Needs to be it's.

(your welcome kittie, hahaha)

My man Ginger(bread man) has a GREAT point. i never even thought about bringing this up! Congress is in charge of gov't spending. They are the ones that created the Stimulus package (which Obama had to sign to get it going btw) that included billions of dollars for pork barrel projects to further support of a Congressman's people in his/her district or state.

No President is to blame for the economic status of our country unless the Executive branch's policies show significant decay in our economy...which i highly doubt you can prove until years later when its all said and done.

Face it. Our Supreme Court has WAY too much power. The Congress is corrupt in their spending, their morality, and in ways of getting into office (and trying to keep being elected into office). Finally, our Presidents have been so concerned about becoming the next President of the United States that they will promise anything and everything. Plus they seem to beat around the bush so much when speaking about their stance on the "big" issues such as gay marriage, abortion, and military situations. This gives us a foggy view on which candidate we would elect depending on what we believe to be true. Let us look at Pedro's speech from Napoleon Dynamite:

"If you vote for me, all your wildest dreams will come true." Pretty soon, we will hear speeches like that coming from our Presidential elect nominees :) (just joking for all you guys that take humor as seriousness)

The only promises he will keep are the ones that will screw us.

Just like any other president.

Wah? Minor threat you dun jus' ignorat if you so dam smarts den why dun you edumacate meh? I dun gut naw edumacation and meh children ain't gut naw either. It must'a good to be's edumacated so well. Imma glad you can help meh learn who Obama realy is!

Let us skip to the auto industry...shall we?

Who is the only American-branded car manufacturer that was NOT handed bail-out money?
Who is the only car company that is doing decently well?