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Plus Buddhism is pretty much about the human aspects and the control of the human mind and soul. To search for the right chosen path through meditation and self-control.

Christianity goes beyond everything. The human control, the obedience of rules and living throughout the sins we may make throughout our lives. Jesus was the son of God, a representative of how God may have been to be if he was in down here as a Human or whatever.

We believe how we wanted to believe... yes i have mixed combines views and beliefs of both Christianity and Buddhism, but it has made me a better person than the one-dimension thought of one religion.

Ms.  Jade,

• Christ existed before the foundations of the earth were created! He always was in heaven from the beginning of time before budda, hindiuism, islam, jehovah witnesses, etc. When Adam and Eve fell/sinned  from God's grace the plan was already in the making for Jesus Christ, God's only begotten Son to die for humankind. 

Like I said that's your opinion. Myself and everyone else can believe or not believe in whatever they want to.

That'd make us all blood related wouldnt it?

  lol, and supposedly, Adam and Eve had two SONS,    so who did they get it on with?

At the start of the human race, there was incest  and Cain had sex with his sister.  But at that time the Mosaic Law wasn't yet written.  So it wasn't bad back then.

Wow, never thought I would find people whom believe what I do :).

Favorite BIble vrses:

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods …do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. - Deut 13:7-12

Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. – Lev 24:16

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. - Levitiicus 20:9

If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. - Matthew 18:7-9

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. - 1 Corinthians 14

Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent. - 1 Tim 2

Matthew 19:21-24
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Religion Breakdown
Christianity: 2.1 billion

all of these are wrong?

Islam: 1.3 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand
The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual - the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating" - were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions.
Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans.

Mr. Rambutan

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3/29/2009 9:34:00 AM   Anyone that chooses one religion and sticks to it by the word is a fool. Most religions are corrupt and outdated.  And the most popular ones are hypocritical and dishonest.

   Jesus was not the son of God, he was just another one of the MANY   "messiahs"  that were roaming around the Mediterranean  Sea-area during that time. Look up them up, Wikipedia even has a list of claimed messiahs. These nutcases were all over the place back then. One, "Horus"  who came hundreds of years before Jesus:

    healed the blind and sick
    raised the dead
    walked on water
   had 12 disciples  
    Was crucified
     rose on the third day.
 
           You would have to be stupid to believe some of the crap Christians spew all the time. If you believe there is a God, fine.  But stop thinking you have to go to church and drink Jesus' blood to be a Christian.  The modern church is a corrupt, ritualistic, and ignorant establishment.  If so many people were not brought up to go to church every Sunday, they would see through all this bullshiit.
   You really think a "merciful"   God created a place of fiery torture for all those that didn't follow his big list of "10 things you shouldn't do".   Or that we all came from two naked teenagers that pissed off God by eating an apple? GROW UP

I believe you are the fool............

Just because the people who control religions are corrupt it means the religion is? that is like saying because a president is corrupt the whole nation is. retard .... slap yoursself for posting this

sorry touchy subject :)

It is a touchy subject.  People need to stop thinking like everything is in a straight line. 

Nah, typo there Mr. Overthetoptitle.  Not exactly the topic for a religious debate though.  Or one on the "war on terror."  This is a topic on World "bankruptsey(English died a little).   Enjoy!

I am not jealous.  My title > yours.  At least I don't claim divinity when I do not have it. :p

Wow, that was the worse post ever.  Try not to think so literally or else you fail.  Okai? Thanks! Bye! You cannot even spell so your post drops in quality.  Go ahead and google the ".com" sources that are just people's opinions.  Google is American biased.  Bravo for that knowledge.  I read the Bible but I will not take it literally because you will be so narrow minded that you will be a complete m0r0n.  You have to think outside the box, which must be something you struggle with.  Try NOT to think literally and you may advance a few steps.  That is why America will be become some crappy athiest society because a few people whine and complain.

Calm down Red.  Religious debate is not needed here....I may continue it but I guess I should say we should all tale a chill pill and figure out wth this topic is REALLY about

I'm done in here:P Just wanted to give my little piece. I always get a little to excited in these threads because I really do hate to see them :S

 I actually typed up an argument, but it would be hypocritical to continue arguing my point after I said I would not.  Plus, making posts like yours are just to easy, here, I'll give an example:

    lol.  you're completely incompetent, you have no idea what your talking about, and your mother smells like fish.

   K thnx bai

     See how easy that is^ 

anyways have fun finding someone else to argue with, if that's what you want to call that ^

  LOL:   just read your edits, I should join terrorists, and I'm to incompetent to understand your meaningless gibberish.  Whatever demonslayer, have you been taking lessons from Cobra?  You basically just said that right wing liberals are the same as left-wing conservatives  EPIC FAIL

   Oh and I'm going to bed now, so spend lots of time looking up big words, then make a post that "transcends" my thought pattern. Be sure to include these words:

   fail
  stupid.
American
    kthxbai   

    good luck.  I'll read it tomorrow for the lulz

Now...from a TRUE non believer...I will refute every claim made in the bible with cold hard fact.

According to the Roman Catholic church, the earth was created just over 6 thousand years ago. Science shot that in the foot by carbon dating to show it is now billions of years old.

Noahs Ark, used to save us by protecting the male/female specimen of every plant, animal and organ on earth, built by Noah and his 4 sons using primitive carpentry tools, would need to be the size of 3 aircraft carriers, which in modern times take on average 4 years to build. Its displacement in water as a result of its weight would be the size of wales, making it near impossible to float, thus turning it into the first known motionless submarine.

The original dead sea scrolls claim that Jesus was born during the time of the Roman Empires census period., where every family were to return to the hometown of the male member. The Roman Census in the region was ALWAYS taken during the spring, to allow an accurate taxation of lands, based on harvestings. That would have made Jesus' birth date in June, not December.
The Dead Sea scolls, confiscated by the Catholic church, also claim that Christ had 16 followers, of which 9 Gospels were written. Of those 9 Gospels, only 4 were ever presented.

Historical documents pertaining to activities of the Roman Empires Easterns provinces, show that during the period of Jesus' life, there were upwards of 70 people claiming to be the Messiah. There names were listed alongside those of 300 people most wanted for extremist activities. Top of that list was a Right wing Judaic extremist, by the name of Barabas, who's exploits in the region included the murder of upwards of 100 Roman soldiers, a crime punishment by death. Yet it was this extremsist murderer who was released by the Romans, at the behest of the people. This is the modern equivelant of releasing Bin Laden in favour of crucifying the Dali Lama.

Get real.

lol this is funny.  Should be on topic...but so tempting.  Trolls would love this topic.  Not that there are any here already*cough*

This is not a topic for religious debate...while it would be fun, it is annoying that this topic was revived -_-;

EDIT - I should add that Duneidinaman should stop reviving topics and changing them so badly...how he is writing is so...insulting to religion.

P.S everytime I go to get a loan, they say that I haven't established enough credit :) LOL

Firstly, Im not going to even USE the word Christianity. My name alone Means friend of God. I love God, his son Jesus, and the sacrifice he made. I follow the example set by Jesus and as tought by his followers and the words they wrote down 2000 years ago. I am proud to say that we have kept such good count of it for all these years.

Too often people have taken his message and used it for things it shouldn't be, such as crusading. The main point of Jesus's  message was this:

Love God with all your heart, soul, mind and Strength, and To Love others as you Love yourself. IF you follow those two, you are right with him. There is nothing corrupt in what I do or in that belief. That is why I will call myself a Christ Follower, a disciple of Jesus. If someone doesn't follow those tennants, then they are not Christ Followers, and inherently, not 'Christians', but hypocrites. It is individuals who are hypocritical, not everyone. I wont try and win people over to my side, as my mission field isn't a game forum.

As for Bankruptcy, I think that it is imenint. It needs to happen though. Its the next step for the final countdown these next 4 or 5 years.

@Dark Angel (because I'm bored)

The thing about the 6k year old earth - not a claim made by the Bible, or held by all Christians.

Noah's Ark - supposedly it took about 100 years to build.  As to the calculations of how big it should be: I'm pretty sure they forgot to factor in evolution.

If your definition of Christianity and the Bible is Roman Catholicism, you're ignoring a huge population.

Suppose you were a governor in a territory known for uprisings and general hostility towards the occupying force, and the people - these riotous people who sometimes seemed to live for rebellions - decided that they wanted you to release to them the more violent of two criminals.  According to the law of your land, both men are criminals.  You're leagues from home, and if the people revolt, who knows whether or not you would live to see it through.  No one ruling over you cares about either of these men.  What would you do?

This is not to say that I'm a religious person.  My point is that if you are going to claim "cold, hard fact" and spout arguments that are logically flawed, then you might as well start arguing against yourself, because your arguments are based on either ignorance or trust (maybe even...faith) in whoever taught them to you.

DARK ANGEL STARTED IT!

Also, I wasn't making it a religious discussion; I was making it a discussion about the importance of knowing your stuff when you're going to argue something!

Angel Fire, your ideas are not original; they are arguments that I have heard many times. Like I said, I am not of religious persuasion, but I do see the need to argue using things that are real.

Like I said before, your definition of "Church" was flawed from the beginning (see my first post). Doctrine varies from denomination to denomination, and all (well, some would say most) of these denominations are part of the "Church." I could introduce you to people who hold to the 6k-year-old earth (and then probably go away and leave you to be tortured, because there are times when I just can't listen to the absurdity), and to others who say it's billions of years old. But, I guess the fact that the "Church" encompasses a plethora of denominations with different doctrines isn't enough fact for you.

Also, elephants were really tiny 6k years ago, as well as a million years ago, as well as they are today...when they're babies. But that idea usually doesn't cross people's minds. I do not claim that this is how it happened (or that it happened), but that's actually the argument that some use to say that dinosaurs were on the Ark (bwahahahaha).

The beauty of evolution is that if the earth starts with one family (say Felidae), from that genus (given enough time), it can breed a plethora of new species (all of the cats you can think of), thus requiring less space on a large boat designed to repopulate the earth. As to the 6k years, see above. Again, doctrine varies; to some (that entire population you are ignoring), development of the earth and other things of science are not explained by religion.

And finally...the topic is world bankruptcy. Get an original idea, get facts to support your argument (or, rather, the argument you borrowed that's been floating around for hundreds of years, and that no longer applies to many today because people have realized the need to not define science by religion) then play with those in the know. Till then, go.