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Pyron, haven't you ever heard that sticks and stones will break your bones? Trust me, you want those weapons of destruction outlawed as well.

"And about the whole Japan thing...  If I recall they did attack us during WW2 during peace treaties.We merely ended the fight before it got any worse...  Not to mention again japan attacked during peace negotiations... Matter of fact pearl harbor happened almost 2 hours after japan ceased the negotiations that day..  Sooo the nuke was not dropped when japan wanted peace."

Where do you find the data for the above? The peace talks came to an end Nov. US was aware that Japan had intend to attack South East Asia and Indies, but did not expect Japan to attack on US itself.

The US's anger on Pearl Harbour was mainly due to the fact that it was a "sneak" attack without the prior diplomatic formalities (formal declaration of war). Then again "pre-emptive strike" is much more common and "acceptable" military action nowadays as compared to 1941.

Well no <3 for Japonese here..

I have this South Korean friend who used to stay with me for awhile he was telling me of hes total respect for N Korea and their leadership... Ok hes parents are from N Korea but he served in the S Korean army for three years. He told me how the US forced his government to buy expensive but useless equipment and how US soldiers got away with murders in his country... And how ofc I won't reveal the whole extend of US's control over the South's government. But towards N Korea the US got to be Mr Nice guy cause someone have Nukes. So for once lets not look from the US point of view. Hope I dun get sh*t banged here for this post :\

Conclusion: Get Nukes or be bullied but for the love of god make love not bombs.

Actually a majority of the S Korean pop is against US military prescence in their country. And RBC, fact is that Japan wanted to surrender even before the nukes where dropped, just not unconditionally. After the first bomb they offered to surrender unconditionally. US blew another bomb before accepting - just becouse they could.

First, i completly support isreal, they fight for there survivial and will NEVER use a nuclear weapon, merely deter muslims, think of how they would act if isreal did not have nuclear deterant? it may ju*beep*el more nuclear arms race and a egerness for it but Isreal is kinda surrounded by aggressive states.

And to this " what has america ever gained from war, WWI WWII and every other war uve gotten stuck in" u support your policy, and get government hands and favours put into every culture ,  WWII u got stuck in it because u finally realized if the other nations lost, you lost, u sat back and watched other nations take a beating and suffer massive casualties while u waited and stockpiled, hell, u had enough supplies to end the war. it wasnt great strategy on the behalf  of some great  american general " anyone seen pattons armies casualties". ( may i add that d-day was a great achievement and i have the utmost respect for its planning , although in my opinion it could have been done better, faster)  it was just a simple numbers game, not you guys saving us, we needed more people, not more intelligent soldiers cause we were to dumb,

back to what  i was trying to make a main point on, you put yourselves in these wars to make a profit, so maybe one day when that country gains something america could use , they can say " hey remember when u were in the little pickle with such and such"  and strike a deal, making a profit, And in WWII , most countries paid off its debt to you in full.

I am not saying all americans are ignorant, but i am saying your foreign policy is one of " saving my own ass and making a buck" not " lets live in harmony" because just cause they dont gain land from a war doesnt mean they dont gain something, and with the damned internet these days all you really need is a room and a computer with a internet connection to make your own web country.

and  a real fact about the Korean war , more bombs were dropped during  that war then all the bombs and artillery shells during WWII.. Maybe the losses were not as bad, but look at aerial pictures of N korean cities after the war, its just dust,

there was also a earlier post saying someone thought america would one day attack India Or china because they will soon become a counterbalancing superpower .... note , they already are in my opinion and within 15 years will be at the forefront of world technology ( unless a new sars or birdflu hits em good), anyways i believe america probably one day will as it stands once china stands up and says no to some american push,

And this.

anyone see the resemblance?

BTW not even nazi's make planes drop bomb in their banners

they know waht it feels like to be bombed its not something to be proud of maybe u guys could learn something

if you dont other will eventually

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UNAEyqQc7Q&mode=related&search=

LONG LIVE NORTH KOREA AND OUR DEAR LEADER!! DOWN WITH US CAPITALISM!!

History always hates the big guy.  The big guy is evil, because how else could he grow to be the big guy?  Nevermind that you yourself would scratch and kick and kill to become the big guy.  Everyone wants #1.  (Hell, that's the reason we play VU and not Sim City in the first place!)

The only means for completely safety is total resignation of our human rights.

The only means for total human rights is resignation for our safety.

Humanity itself is what is flawed.  Yet, the only way to fix these flaws are, in essence, to become animals.

that what they want us to belive noone kill becoue he wants to they eighter forcew someone else to do it or they get forced bye someone else. its the system that couses all these wars. if bush had to pick up a gun and go to iraq himspef there would never be any wars.

if you really belive something like that there is nothing i can say or do to make you think otherwise.

well first off, of all that i said he picks the less important parts and say they are wrong. sow he already has his opinion and is only looking for a way to disagree with me.

he cant possiblely belive that any president fought in a war like any soldier did. or any army soldier fights out of 'free will'.all they fight for are is the wealth of the already rich people who dont even fight themselves.

its hard to belive he forms his opinion out of logics.Its rather he tries to convinse himself of that becouse he think taht wil make him feel better (dont know the exact reason).

My argument are based and logics and they obviously wont have any effect on him.

president are puppets
damm the capitalist
murderers


ok?

president are puppets
As in representative o*beep*reater body?  In such scenario, the only people who are NOT puppets would be despots and monarchs.

damm the capitalist
murderers
Damn the noncapitalist ones too.  Capitalism itself has nothing to do with it.

'' As in representative o*beep*reater body?  In such scenario, the only people who are NOT puppets would be despots and monarchs.''

they are puppets of the few elite richest.
and the people are puppets of the media. ( at least the majority who keeps voting for him) or you dont have a democratie.

(sry if others feel attack couse of my anger for lady tantulii's ignorance)

''Capitalism itself has nothing to do with it''
OMG

let me gues waht you wanna say

blablabla lenin bababab monster bblalaalblal  kill millions inocents
blablabal Videl castro blablabla .....

"they are puppets of the few elite richest.
and the people are puppets of the media. ( at least the majority who keeps voting for him) or you dont have a democratie."

1.  So, better to be a puppet to the rich, or a mindless drone to a despot?

2.  You are not a person?  (Might really explain your lack of logic though...)

"LIES of the media "

Tell me, oh wise one... where do you learn about George Bush?

And using Democracy as an argument to go to war is the most retarded argument ever. The rich and powerful never wants real democracy, look at how your own government in America got nations like El Salvador, Nicaragua or Liberia to go from democracy to authoritarian dictatorships. Not to mention that near the end of WW2 America tried to get a Nazi government to rule France.

"OMG u admit that you/we are puppets(have nothing to say over anything that happens in the name of 'america' in your case) and accept it and are gratefull for it becouse you are afraid of the altarnitive?"

Everyone is a puppet in some manner.  A puppet to a corporation.  A puppet to a president.  A puppet to a government.  To their parents.  To the media.  Generally, If you're not a puppet, you starve.  Because you're not useful.

If you think the rich have COMPLETE control, however, you are wrong.  A president could spend billions of dollars on a campaign and not win.  A president niether inherits nor purchases presidency.  They do it by winning the trust of the general populace (except in certain occasions like the 2000 elections, due to the electoral college) and retaining it to try and get re-elected again.  Not to mention that for every government leader there are a system of checks that can be invoked if necessary.

"If it wher upto people like you your situation woulnt be much diffrent than the worst places in africa."

You really have no basis for this accusation.  I do not support all of Bush's policies, just because I may defend them from crazed liberals who spew propoganda no better than the republicans do.  I am a registered voter, and have done so, and plan to continue to do so.

"2.  Media doent nessesarily lie in most fact they tell. They just decieve you greatly.Lies are the opinions of most news presetators. and ofcourse how they twist hide or Bloat certain types of news."

Ah... so you are completely immune to this decievement?  Your logic and reasoning against America has been built off of perfectly objective and logical conclusion?  Gotcha.

"Not to mention that near the end of WW2 America tried to get a Nazi government to rule France."

Can you expand on this?

Hahah, no, popular media doesn't support Bush.

And what do you mean by following others?  By providing a counterarguement to common and ignorant assaults against America and Bush?

why would they support bush he already got more then he wanted unless you guys wanna change the constitution to re-elect such a great leader a 3rd time :D

"why would they support bush he already got more then he wanted "

Bush could always use more.  Like a 2/3 Republican majority in both houses.  But the Democrats gained seats in the house the second election, which shows Bush is losing support, not gaining it.

"unless you guys wanna change the constitution to re-elect such a great leader a 3rd time :D"

Actually, Bill Clinton is already proposing this... but it seems very unlikely to gain any ground.

It is true that news stations announced winner prematurely... twice.  But in the Supreme Court case Bush v Gore, Bush was granted the win by a marginal number of votes.

What should be scarier, though, is that Bush was re-elected with a better vote rate than in his first term.

That wasn't my focus, it was that a branch OTHER than the executive was the one that decided the case.

At any rate, it is virtually impossible to get a perfect count in any election.  Florida was using old crappy machines that were screwing up the punch cards.  It's not really safe to say Gore should have/would have won the election, and at any rate if he had, he'd probably be doing the same thing as Bush.

The part of the US still occupies today?

Yeah, this thread has wandered far.

back to the subject north korea is cewl and brave :D.