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21:54:53 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

:P i find it funny ive been 'kicked outta' my own thread about 7 times by a retard called josef


21:55:13 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Ryan The Archion II:

Peace on Earth!


21:56:18 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Pineapple:

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3/31/2009 9:54:53 PM
:P i find it funny ive been 'kicked outta' my own thread about 7 times by a retard called josef

You find It funny your a socially Inept and mentally unstable twat?


21:56:36 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

and ive done the crusades... those werent just religious either. they were religious / political / economic. hence why there were muslims on the 'christian ' side and vice veras.


21:56:45 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:

"i find it funny ive been 'kicked outta' my own thread about 7 times by a retard called josef"

I find it funny that your mother is a whore, but I'm not laughing in your face now am I? Oh.... never mind.

*beep*ing failfag


21:56:47 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Banana:

"So yr 3 is when your grown up... your around 7 and were i live they tell you it is a fact until GCSE stage".
Em in year 7 I don't think I had biology lessons which tried to prove me Darwins Theory. Which by the way is almost proven.


21:57:14 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

.. how am i socially inept.. your the one running around insulting everyone. doesnt that make YOU the socially inept one.


21:57:59 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

ii did in year 7... and we first learnt the basics of the evolution theory in yr 3. i know coz i just went upstairs to find my school books lol so i could be accurate


21:58:12 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Apollo Wolfe:

science can't prove anything. do you know how many scientific laws have been completely shattered by a simple discovery?


21:59:02 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

im on religions side but apollo the same can be said for priests so....


21:59:11 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Banana:

And whatever. I'm going to sleep.
This thread starts to be boring as there is no proof about god. Not even a try to prove it :( Just rumors that it! exists.


22:00:00 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Formatieduiker:

you're the one who read a Dan Brown book by accident and now believes everything in there must be right ... perfect biblestudy i'd say ;-)


22:00:24 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:

"science can't prove anything. do you know how many scientific laws have been completely shattered by a simple discovery?"

Don't you have some reading to do? I think, you do. By the way if I were you I'd understand how science works while you're at it, it might help you with your amazement about discoveries.

By the way... who made the discovery? I'm willing to bet it was a scientist.


22:00:56 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Apollo Wolfe:

banana: there's no proof  against God either.


22:01:34 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

it was queen sheeba :P


22:01:35 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Banana:

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3/31/2009 10:58:12 PM
science can't prove anything. do you know how many scientific laws have been completely shattered by a simple discovery?

IN year 3 some people start to talk. ROFL.
Maybe you mean school year 3, which is about +-9 years....
So 7 is about +-13 years.


22:01:53 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Formatieduiker:

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3/31/2009 9:56:36 PM
and ive done the crusades... those werent just religious either. they were religious / political / economic. hence why there were muslims on the 'christian ' side and vice veras.

 

so, you we're just trying to look smart by stating something wrong? to help support your point?

nice try


22:01:59 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

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3/31/2009 9:00:00 PMyou're the one who read a Dan Brown book by accident and now believes everything in there must be right ... perfect biblestudy i'd say ;-)

Who me?


22:02:16 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Apollo Wolfe:

"By the way... who made the discovery? I'm willing to bet it was a scientist"

what? that doesn't make sense. it doesn't matter who discovered it. what matters is, it was a "proven fact" before the discovery, and after the discovery, people realized it's worng. all i'm saying is that science can't prove anything.


22:03:30 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

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3/31/2009 9:01:35 PMLord Apollo Wolfe

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3/31/2009 10:58:12 PM
science can't prove anything. do you know how many scientific laws have been completely shattered by a simple discovery?

IN year 3 some people start to talk. ROFL.
Maybe you mean school year 3, which is about +-9 years....
So 7 is about +-13 years.

in england year 7 is about 11-12
year 8 12-13
year 9 13-14
year 10 15-16
year 11 16-17

so no.. its not about 13 years its about 11.... as its the first thing we do in science in yr 7


22:03:43 Mar 31st 09 - The Architect:

This is not a debate, this is a public mockery of anyone who chooses to believe in a "Higher Power", and for all of our sakes, please lock and or delete this thread.


22:05:07 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:


22:05:22 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:

Please read the picture carefully, you might learn something.


22:05:39 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Pineapple:

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3/31/2009 10:03:43 PM
This is not a debate, this is a public mockery of anyone who chooses to believe in a "Higher Power", and for all of our sakes, please lock and or delete this thread.

You know you liek


22:06:43 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:

Architect welcome to my thread, please have a sit and join the delusion crowd, I haven't flamed you in a while, is it that time already?


22:07:40 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

josef it is MY THREAD you dillusional *beep*


22:08:26 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Pineapple:

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3/31/2009 10:06:40 PM
but its a lie. earlier on was it not you or one of the fruits who said that religion keeps changing its mind. is it not you changing your mind?

Is it you whos been drinking from the Delusional Glass again?


22:09:33 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Pineapple:

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3/31/2009 10:07:40 PM
josef it is MY THREAD you dillusional *beep*


22:09:49 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

so instead of answer my question you make a new question....thats just like most scientific breakthroughs.

they just start a new question.


22:12:31 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Pineapple:

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3/31/2009 10:09:49 PM
so instead of answer my question you make a new question....thats just like most scientific breakthroughs.

they just start a new question.

And you believe in men with magical powers?
And the fact a man watches you all day everyday?
And that 'The Bible' isnt just a load of highly exajurated sh*t?

Please, until you come to your senses, dont say anything


22:12:31 Mar 31st 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:

im going bed... and not coming back to this thread so feel free to talk crap all you want josef :)


22:12:36 Mar 31st 09 - Sir Muzzy The Harbringer:

You people don't actually believe that the Earth is 6000 years old, do you?


22:13:04 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Pineapple:

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3/31/2009 10:12:31 PM
im going bed... and not coming back to this thread so feel free to talk crap all you want josef :)

Don't forget to pray!

ROFL

gg

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22:13:46 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Formatieduiker:

atleast 'science' gets updated ...

how long has it been with your bible?  (geuss what happened to those who got the idea to update that one)


22:14:05 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:

I don't need you to leave to tell you what a *beep*ic nubtard you are, I can do that right now.

EDIT: ROLF going to bed, what are you amish? Is mommy coming to tuck you in bed and change the dippers?


22:25:03 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Ryan The Archion II:

This thread has been the most answered thread for me. 189 post in just almost 4 hours. LOL!

God bless to all!
Peace on Earth!
Wars in VU battlefields!


22:27:26 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:

"God bless to all!"

*beep* off you suicide bomber in the making.


22:30:45 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Apollo Wolfe:

How polite Josef! You're realy making a good impression.


22:32:46 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:

I'm not trying to make a good impression you imbecile, I'm telling the truth.


22:33:31 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Lord of The Flies:

Ok, just to lay this out one more time for all the people that think the bible is the way..blah blah blah. There is some very interesting things in there that they don't like to talk about on Sunday's. We as a society have never held on to anything so long ever..I will quote for you some of the most disturbing verses that I have ever run across..

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods …do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. - Deut 13:7-12

Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. – Lev 24:16

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. - Levitiicus 20:9

If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. - Matthew 18:7-9

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. - 1 Corinthians 14

Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent. - 1 Tim 2

Matthew 19:21-24
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Religion Breakdown
Christianity: 2.1 billion

all of these are wrong?

Islam: 1.3 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand
The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual - the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating" - were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions.
  Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans.


22:34:43 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Apollo Wolfe:

Yeah I was kidding. But it makes people want to beleive you more if you don't use insults or profanities. When you're polite, it makes people want to listen. Otherwise, all they hear are the insults.


22:36:10 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:

please can you fail moar?


22:38:43 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Apollo Wolfe:

hey Lord of the flies--

it doesn't matter how many people believe something...it can still be wrong. a few centuries ago, everyone believed the world was flat. and they were all wrong. also, those Jewish laws you're listing applied to the Jewish communities back then. when someon sinned, a sacrifice had to be made. But then Christ came and became the sacrifice for everybody; he took the sins of the world and recieved the punishment. there fore, those no longer apply, since the sacrifice has already been paid.


22:42:06 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Josef:

"it doesn't matter how many people believe something...it can still be wrong"

Wow you said something correct! Now read that again and again and again, maybe you'll see wisdom in it.


22:43:58 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Ryan The Archion II:

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4/1/2009 5:33:31 AM

Ok, just to lay this out one more time for all the people that think the bible is the way..blah blah blah. There is some very interesting things in there that they don't like to talk about on Sunday's. We as a society have never held on to anything so long ever..I will quote for you some of the most disturbing verses that I have ever run across..

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods …do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. - Deut 13:7-12

Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. – Lev 24:16

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. - Levitiicus 20:9

If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. - Matthew 18:7-9

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. - 1 Corinthians 14

Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent. - 1 Tim 2

Matthew 19:21-24
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual - the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating" - were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions.
  Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans.

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My friend, Bible must not be read literaly.

Uhm, and please study Catholicism deeper.

I've been a atheist before, I used to used that too.

God bless!


22:44:36 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Lord of The Flies:

I am sorry but any religion that, by practicing doctrines, will allow someone like Charles Manson, Fred Phelps (if you don't know him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps), and yes even Adolf Hitler into heaven, shouldn't be taken seriously. If Adolf Hitler repented all of his sins and took "Jesus Christ as his personal saviour" before he died, he would go to heaven. The six million Jews he ordered the slaughter of...won't.

O.o


22:46:32 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Lord of The Flies:

My wife is Catholic, Ryan I know al lot about the Catholic faith...and what a joke it is....

If the bible is not to be taken literally why do you hold all of its teachings so true?


22:48:31 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Zany Zorander:

This thread is disgusting.  The blatant ignorance displayed on both sides of the "argument" is just sad.  Just about everyone posting for the "science" crowd (with few exceptions) doesn't understand what science really is, and hasn't a clue what faith is.  The "religion" side has no grasp of science, either, and clearly doesn't understand religion (again, with exceptions).

Not only is this a "public mockery of anyone who chooses to believe in a "Higher Power"," it's also an indirect slander of anyone who calls them self a scientist.  It reflects poorly on this forum and on this community, making us look like a pack of wild dogs ready to jump at each other's throats using whatever delusions we can conjure as ridiculous weapons to tear into each other.

I'm with Architect here: for all of our sakes, please lock and delete this thread.


22:48:36 Mar 31st 09 - Lord Apollo Wolfe:

Flies- just because someone professes to be a Christian doesn't mean they are one.


22:49:50 Mar 31st 09 - Mr. Ryan The Archion II:

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4/1/2009 5:46:32 AM

My wife is Catholic, Ryan I know al lot about the Catholic faith...and what a joke it is....

If the bible is not to be taken literally why do you hold all of its teachings so true?

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We read in a much deeper manner. We just don't read it literally. Bible are full of figure of speechs.


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