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LGC History Question
22:10:06 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Salazar:

If you are interested in helping compile a history about LGC's origin, progression, and evolution into its current state, then send me a message. Or, skype me. 


We need enemy perspectives as well as friendly ones. 

Rumors, gossip, and far-outside opinions are welcome as well, if you want to document popular opinion properly. 

Thanks. 

Small Fries / Salazar / Alith


22:11:53 Aug 23rd 13 - Xerxes The Great (Mr. Xerxes The Abomination):

I was just thinking this the other day... I mean Legacy has been around ever since I can remember...


22:12:40 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Smallfry:

If people would find it helpful, I could construct a questionnaire 


22:13:06 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Osiris:

Lgc was born lgc sucked, lgc lost to Carnage, Abydos, Auspice+friends, PHI, Dark Blood, Hamish (probably) Serenity, Noob Table? I dunno :D Seriously tho a history of lgc would be a massive book ^^


22:16:01 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Smallfry:

Osiris, 


Would you be willing to share some of your wisdom? This concept of compilation is a serious one. Particulars, such as main influencers, important battles, diplomatic efforts, and all the rest are of supreme importance. 


22:17:09 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Smallfry:

Here is an example of something that MUST be addressed in a serious endeavor to understand LGC's history:

At one point I've heard that lgc was under serious internal stress, and the kingdom broke apart into Dark Blood, under queen quietone. It would be interesting to hear about this LGC weakness, and the wars that followed - if anyone still remember them.

There is also the issue of the second breakdown of LGC into Mirror, although that history will be easier to collect and compile. 


22:17:43 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Osiris:

erm if my memory is up to it I can shed some light on it I think :D my kd was allied to legacy warred lgc then I was lgc for one era its a loooong time period tho

 

 

 

I cant shed any light on Quietone and the internal lgc struggle only the era Abydos and Legacy were allied we killed all other kds in like a week and ended up looking at each other both sides nap breaking on and off and me and quietone arguing/insulting each other tons other then that lgc sux!


22:18:32 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Well, let's pick a period that you prefer to address. Consider yourself a professional on the particular eras of your choice. Start with one or several, and go from there. 




22:18:32 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Well, let's pick a period that you prefer to address. Consider yourself a professional on the particular eras of your choice. Start with one or several, and go from there. 




22:20:51 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Osiris:

heh era by era probably isn't possible without some major reminding. we were enemies for a looong time ^^ eras blend only time we were friendly was to fight the evil auspice!


22:28:01 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Osiris:

ill write a short part of an era from all I can remember now.

 

http://visual-utopia.com/hoh.asp?round=16

 

ERA 16

Legacy and Abydos form a nap/map so that each kd can kill another main rival.

Mirror and Noob Table? both great kds both had terrible oop and ended up dead I think pretty quick

Legacy and Abydos both farm watching each other and sporadic nap breaking/insults occur while both leaderships attempt to keep a nap up because breaking a nap was a pretty serious thing back then.

After me and quietone row a lot it spills over into the forums. Someone from Abydos (cant remember who) decides that lgc are dicks and so gives maps and safe haven to The Smiths who arrive and abuse the shit out of Control time making them incredibly powerful. Smiths then proceed to eradicate most legacy from the map overnight by more mass abuse.

 

This ofc causes a total shitstorm where LGC scream at me and I scream back because they assumed it was my plan I must have known and I point out that clearly I don't know everything everyone of my players does on a pc. Yadda yadda yadda we war forevermore pretty much.

 

That's it for now im sure some old lgc nubs will disagree <3

 

 


22:28:36 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Well, it's always good to understand the opinion of both sides. 


22:30:53 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Example Questionnaire:


Current name: 

Past names: 

Current KD: 

Past KDs: 

0. KD name, Era #. KD leader. Vice, vice, vice. 

1.

2.

3.

4.


Era: 

Kingdoms Involved: 

0. KD, #players. Leader name.

1. 

2.

3.

4.

5.


List NAP/MAP agreements:

0. KD, NAP/MAP, KD

1.

2.

3.

4.


KDs who fought OOP: 

0. KD vs KD; KD vs KD vs KD; KD and KD vs KD; etc.

1.

2.

3.

4. 


Which KDs won: 

Why did they win:

KDS who farmed OOP:

1.

2.

3.

4.




Comments: 



Popular gossip/rumors/opinions:



Era War:

0. KD vs KD, etc.

1.

2.

3.

4.


Who won:

Why did they win:



Comments:



Popular gossip/rumors/opinions





KD Leaders comments: 

0. KD, Leader name. Comment.

1.


2.


3.


4.


KD Vices comments:

0. KD, Vice name. Comment.

1.


2.


3.


4.


KD comments:
0. KD. Comment [pros and cons]

1.


2.


3.


4. 


Final Comments:

0. Your take on the Era. Important battles. Important Diplomatic information. This is your time to reveal YOUR TAKE on things.


-sign name

-date 


P.S. Comments for forum

0. Rants/Flames




22:59:07 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

originally founded and led by gr8 players like swifty

turned shit

lost like 8 eras in a row, is now an embarrassment of a kd and shouldn't share/bring down the name of the original kd that it hardly resembles any more. should be disbanded.

the end


00:13:09 Aug 24th 13 - Ms. Alith:

I'm starting to think you old codgers are too old anymore to remember anything anymore... 


00:23:37 Aug 24th 13 - Mr. Edd:

I  think we should all remember ZEON!


04:28:51 Aug 24th 13 - Ms. Aishaa:

Legacy has and always will be crap.


05:15:10 Aug 24th 13 - Stormy (Mr. Sturmcrahe):

a distinction needs to be made....legacy has had multiple incarnations. As for me, i have trouble remembering what i ate for breakfast yesterday let alone a war 8 years ago:P



10:43:26 Aug 24th 13 - Azaruc (Lord Azaruc):

22:17:09 Aug 23rd 13 - Mr. Smallfry:

Here is an example of something that MUST be addressed in a serious endeavor to understand LGC's history:

At one point I've heard that lgc was under serious internal stress, and the kingdom broke apart into Dark Blood, under queen quietone. It would be interesting to hear about this LGC weakness, and the wars that followed - if anyone still remember them.

There is also the issue of the second breakdown of LGC into Mirror, although that history will be easier to collect and compile.



Wut? Breakdown of LGC into Mirror? LGC and Mirror have always been separate kingdoms, most of the times enemies (though honorable). Mirror was formed in the time LGC was still called Zeta's Zealots and Saiyan Empire was the other big kingdom, led by Frederick.


12:03:11 Aug 24th 13 - Tyr (Sir Tyrgalon):

01:23:37 Aug 24th 13 - Mr. Edd:

I  think we should all remember ZEON!


I second this! :D


12:06:26 Aug 24th 13 - Bran (Mr. Brannnnz):

remember what?


14:17:04 Aug 24th 13 - Wilberforce (Princess Diana):

If I could shed some light on it, I would Fries. But I too, like Old Man Stormy, cannot really remember that far back.

I am/was close friends with both Quietone, and some of the old LGC leadership (Ezatious) and I played in Dark Blood in it's latter stages, and then vice/leader of subsequent KDs with a mostly DB core playerbase.

Swifty and Rox would be the men to ask about all things LGC, I've been told both sides of the story of how the KD split into Dark Blood (I was on a year long VU break at the time) but them being there first hand should clarify things, albeit it might be rather subjective.
If you were after DB's version of events, don't hold your breath. Binh is likely the closest you can get to that. Draiken, Quietone, Dvs, Valar, Raistlin and co no longer play. That being said, perhaps Salamong could shed some light. He might know.



Mafia > Legacy > [SPLIT] Dark Blood + Legacy > Revelation [SPLIT after one era, RVL continued but the Prosapia players left] > FEAR(?) > Dark Side > Legacy > Pink Legacy

Dark Blood > Prosapia > Revelation > Juicy > Hot Inactive Veterans > Hematolagnia (you could say DB KDs end here) > Dead or Alive (more of a Hanky [tm] KD than DB-esque KD) > iPwn (again, not really a DB-esque KD but had alot of DB players in it) > Anarchy (again, not a DB KD, but had the remanents left)


I think that's the order the KDs went. Could go earlier than Mafia I think, but it's pointless. Just wanted to show who became LGC.


15:07:29 Aug 24th 13 - Azaruc (Mr. Azaruc The Wise):

Before Mafia, it was Zeta's Zealots :)


17:00:39 Aug 24th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

It went Zetas Zealots -> Mafia -> Paramount Warring Nobles of Time -> LGC -> [loads of shit incarnatons] -> Shit LGC [todays version]

ZZ, Mafia, PWNT, etc all dominated in a similar fashion to LGC comprising of the same core of players. Their "legacy" is Legacy's.

And LGC never spawned into Mirror. Been allied and shit, but nothing more.


17:11:07 Aug 24th 13 - Azaruc (Lord Azaruc):

Yeah, dunno why they thought LGC and Mirror were related.. :p

I totally forgot about PWNT btw, good ol' days


17:18:08 Aug 24th 13 - Wilberforce (Mr. Elsins Biatch):

Maybe be meant Misfits, not Mirror?

You know, when scrubs like Ford, Swifty, Hanky and co betrayed LGC and formed Misfits and became their leadership.


18:10:10 Aug 24th 13 - Mr. Osiris:

yes the good old days of pwnt/mafia and the unstoppable bug abusing force that they became ^^


18:20:38 Aug 24th 13 - Wilberforce (Mr. Elsins Biatch):

16:18:08 Aug 24th 13 - Wilberforce (Mr. Elsins Biatch):
Maybe be meant Misfits, not Mirror?

*he


17:10:10 Aug 24th 13 - Mr. Osiris:

yes the good old days of pwnt/mafia and the unstoppable bug abusing force that they became ^^


I heard from a reliable source, LGC still bug abuse. That's how they went on their win streak.



18:20:38 Aug 24th 13 - Wilberforce (Mr. Elsins Biatch):

16:18:08 Aug 24th 13 - Wilberforce (Mr. Elsins Biatch):
Maybe be meant Misfits, not Mirror?

*he


17:10:10 Aug 24th 13 - Mr. Osiris:

yes the good old days of pwnt/mafia and the unstoppable bug abusing force that they became ^^


I heard from a reliable source, LGC still bug abuse. That's how they went on their win streak.



18:23:03 Aug 24th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

ye i think lgc bug abused last era

theres no way u can lose like 8 straight eras with that team, then suddenly win 1 from nowhere. deffo abuse


19:30:34 Aug 24th 13 - Ms. Alith:

There's another thing LGC is very guilty of: kicking people. Apparently the pain of being kicked, banned, gone, generates a LOT of animosity. 


Some facts, some detail, something substantial, might help guize.

Lonely little trolls... learn manners plox?  

Bad Bell, aka Swifty, is the chipped piece of heart that belonged to LGC. No more. Misfits adopted him. 


20:38:33 Aug 24th 13 - Mr. Osiris:

well swiffers is just trolling but its a fact that PWNT/MAFIA leader Rambo won 4 eras in a row and got caught cheating but zeta decided deletion was too harsh a penalty so didn't really punish them at all.


20:42:40 Aug 24th 13 - Wilberforce (Mr. Elsins Biatch):

Didn't he used to just delete cities? I think I remember something like that.


00:53:13 Aug 25th 13 - Mr. Osiris:

no he could transfer all of his troops from blocker to blocker to blocker


00:07:39 Aug 28th 13 - Lord Jellybean (Mr. Jelly Bean):

My favorite encounter with Legacy was when the 3 man kds were around. DAMN. Well, I remember being in my second era and having to make mini alliances with other 3 man kds because Legacy had formed like 10 KDs under the same flag and basicly shown the flaw in the 3 man kd system. Thank god for getting rid of merges. I hated them. 


00:41:28 Aug 28th 13 - Stormy (Mr. Sturmcrahe):

ugh, please dont mention the 3 man days..made relations a nightmare, not to mention boring kingdom forums (everyone just made off site forums for their 'alliances'.....)


19:11:10 Aug 28th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

forums?

wat. it was all about irc for the big boys!


18:41:10 Aug 29th 13 - Lord Jellybean (Mr. Jellybeanz):

Yea Stormy, I made a mini forum for a collection of KDs. Those were the days. Well, my best times with VU were when 3d man kds had passed, that crazy dark vs light thing had passed.. and we had no walls + no merge on the standard map. Good simple fun. 


15:33:08 Aug 30th 13 - Mr. Cbr:

Are you guys kidding me, years later and you're having the same debates about Rambo and 3 men kingdoms. I didn't realize how much I missed this shit until I read the forum.


<3 Osi, never change


03:27:24 Aug 31st 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Who are Ezatious and Quietone


11:51:04 Aug 31st 13 - Mr. Osiris:

Ez is a strange hero Quietone is a strange lady


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