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Inactive members
01:34:53 Oct 15th 21 - Prophet Ellestria:

When a member of a kingdom who was active, contributing member of the kingdom goes inactive, due to rl or what ever other reason.

Why is it considered cheating if your kingdom plunders that person before burning the cities? Its not like the kingdom planned it, and its nobodys multi.
If enemy notices someone is inactive, and they plunder that inactive member, its considered good and smart play to get good resources and its not cheating.

Someone explain please.


01:45:32 Oct 15th 21 - Endless (Ms. Bling Bling):

ask why the plunder, why not just burn the cities 

and then you have your answer


01:47:25 Oct 15th 21 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

Ask Penguin he's very passionate about this


02:21:12 Oct 15th 21 - Mr. Igniz:

Sigh....


03:15:05 Oct 15th 21 - SFD (Mr. Soft Feet Dude):

Oh damn I miss read this at first and thought you were just taking the resources once while taking the cities (which is fair) 

But to just use it as an endless (<3 endless) pool of income is ridiculous.
It isn't cheating though imo, it's just a slimy thing to do.

If that scenario is to happen, take the cities and plunder once if you want, but to keep it as a plunder well of joy, nah.

Keep in mind that is probably an exploit, so if everyone was to do that, it would probably be fixed by not allowing the kd that kicked the inactive to gain any resources from the cities, a limit on plunders per kd or even a % of Res can only be taken over time. 


03:36:03 Oct 15th 21 - Endless (Ms. Bling Bling):

endless is a fun word ;) <3 SFD


09:25:50 Oct 15th 21 - heroix (Conqueror Nocturnus):

Yeah plunder that dwarf of 2 weeks inactivity... The advantage would be bigger than if he kept playing.


10:22:10 Oct 15th 21 - Mr. Igniz:

They probably did that


15:51:39 Oct 15th 21 - Ms. Hannah The Elite:

People are still inactive, nobody plundered or kicked anyone, and nobody will.
Its funny people already saying we plundered even thought nothing happened.
Thats why I wrote this post to see what the reaction would be lol...

What do you mean Endless, ask why plunder, ask who?
You mean enemy plunders I should ask why plunder? They will probably say cause we are at war? And we're not supposed to plunder inactive because they are our members?

SFD if you don't take over but just burn and destroy you get no resources.
If you take over, sure you could get some resources, but less than with plunder
Is it ok to take over the city, not just destroy it?

Hero if you mean the dwarf in Mantrax, Ignis plundered that guy and ended up quickly on 1st spot in highscores. Its funny how he is the one that said we plundered lol... There is a reason why you're first on HoH. I mean its not your fault dwarf stopped playing, but you're the one that plundered and took advantage of him, not us. We did not even kick him out.

I read somewhere on forums that you can't plunder Native People, if that is the case then I apologize to Ignis, in that case he could not plunder the dwarf because he already had quit.

Prophet Elle
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10/09/2021
I did not even notice when this guy quit?
Death Mascot Necro Emporos (dead) (10/2/2021 10:30:26 PM)
I did not even notice him leaving the Kd ?


I even wrote in Discord 5 days ago when I noticed he's not there any more. Its when I noticed the (dead) in my messages list, thats when I noticed he actually stopped playing. He probably did the resign option.

My post here was not about the dwarf actually, its about 2 members who are in the kingdom who are inactive, and I will not be kicking those out because we are in a decent position this era that we are able to protect these two until era end when I will kick them out.




16:46:37 Oct 15th 21 - Mr. Igniz:

I didnt get any resources except slaves from those cheap natives. But I did get nice plunders from other players and a huge income from buying cheap stones. And manipulating the market.


17:23:49 Oct 15th 21 - Mr. Mavich:

Why not have members who go inactive have their cities un plunderable. Their cities could still be taken but have it like all their peasants/resources got away. This way, everyone gets a benefit of sort but not too much and not immediately.


17:24:05 Oct 15th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

Mantrax is Unbalanced currently. A overpowered kingdom & some small kingdoms. FW has too many inactives every era, hardly gets 5 active members per era.


So whatever you say, you'll win at the end anyway, Ms. Hannah & Ellestria. If you were thinking so much about rules n ..., You should have NEVER accepted that many players to your Kd!


17:37:40 Oct 15th 21 - heroix (Conqueror Nocturnus):

I was referring to nothing, just this hypothetical situation. Not following any of the drama happening in any of the worlds. 


18:15:10 Oct 15th 21 - Sir Aloysius Hundredth:

majority of the (vocal) kingdoms placed this kind of action (attacking inactives) as inappropriate and see an abuse of it. It's like a mainstream media trying their best to convince you not to do it. 


And the last thing you know, they too plunder their inactives. hahaha

all the eras I led my kingdom, I always order my members to plunder my inactives. It's my kingdom policy. I never complain if other kingdom's do it... and if other kingdom abuse it, well, I can only say that they wanted to win so bad. 



18:19:30 Oct 15th 21 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

And why is that?

Is there a reason other kingdoms dont recruit?
I have not seen any kd ask for members other than QM

FW has around 6 highly skilled vets
While QM at best has two. And we are 9 actives and 3 inactive.

Mant seems unbalanced cause other kingdoms dont make any effort


Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

Mantrax is Unbalanced currently. A overpowered kingdom & some small kingdoms. FW has too many inactives every era, hardly gets 5 active members per era.


So whatever you say, you'll win at the end anyway, Ms. Hannah & Ellestria. If you were thinking so much about rules n ..., You should have NEVER accepted that many players to your Kd!




18:21:05 Oct 15th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

That's true DD. But i was just saying from a commoner's point of view ;)


18:28:39 Oct 15th 21 - Konspyre (Mr. Misterious):

always funny to see kingdoms recruit a ton of people then make excuses for why it's balanced.
"but but but"


18:51:16 Oct 15th 21 - Endless (Lady Endless Loop):

@Hannah my only point was plundering inactives equals a gain, burning means nobody has an advantage from the inactive, nobody cries feeding or unfair advantage 


When leading I tell to burn without plundering (no drama) but canít really say whether or not people plundered before burning, itís their individual choice on what they do. Honestly donít care if they do or not.


20:58:39 Oct 15th 21 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

Mantrax has been pretty dead recently until Devil Eyes came and made an effort to recruit, I joined cause its nice to have an active kingdom in Mantrax. 

After leadership left it fell apart, and then I looked around and all other kingdoms are too inactive, too small or just not enough to face FW. At least they do try to recruit (they did get JD recently)

So as soon as a kingdom puts effort they are ridiculed by others, because its better for game to have 3-4 small inactive kingdoms?

And this post is not making excuses, the leader of the Kd is a new player who is asking a simple question only to get under attack by multiple people. This community is pretty toxis, that is pretty obvious by now.



Konspyre:

always funny to see kingdoms recruit a ton of people then make excuses for why it's balanced.
"but but but"




21:22:35 Oct 15th 21 - Konspyre (Mr. Misterious):

like i said, funny


21:36:09 Oct 15th 21 - Den Norske Forskeren Sam:

00:34:53 Oct 15th 21 - Prophet Ellestria:

When a member of a kingdom who was active, contributing member of the kingdom goes inactive, due to rl or what ever other reason.

Why is it considered cheating if your kingdom plunders that person before burning the cities? Its not like the kingdom planned it, and its nobodys multi.
If enemy notices someone is inactive, and they plunder that inactive member, its considered good and smart play to get good resources and its not cheating.

Someone explain please.


I wouldn't look at it as cheating. I've seen countless attempts to introduce "gentlemen's agreements" and the like in the game before, but it's never worked, which is ultimately what's up for debate here. All they do is create toxic, petty arguments.

The only thing you need to consider is, does the game allow it? If the person that created the game didn't want it to happen, it wouldn't be allowed to happen.


22:59:06 Oct 15th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

Den Norske Forskeren Sam:

If the person the created the game didn't want it to happen, it wouldn't be allowed to happen.

Yep 😁. Exactly how you can sell stones at 1.5 gold 🙃🙃. 

Admins allowed means you can try it as long as you're alive.


23:03:17 Oct 15th 21 - SFD (Mr. Soft Feet Dude):

At the end of the day, if someone does abuse it and KDs find out, it will effect the reputation of that kd.

Relations will be harder to get exc.

been In a few KDs where someone has asked for a nap and it's being considered, then someone mentioned something they did and the whole kd has agreed to out right war instead.
Even had one person leave The kd because the kd agreed to a nap, can't remember what it was though, but me and the person, who I was friends with had a falling out because I decided to have our kd attack him instead of letting him do what he wanted, which was to attack the kd he had a problem with.
I want to say it was jas's kd but I can't remember.


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