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VU EU #2!
02:28:04 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

04:26:26 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Neratu:

im well aware its a user generated map... what im thinking is that the link is to the wrong version possibly.

 

and im thinking denmark personally.


04:55:58 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Do I have to download the map? And do I have to download hamachi?


06:48:12 Dec 18th 07 - Sir Spoon:


:)

No crash, no events (not sure if they pop up after a saved game where you create a vassal) of creating the Netherlands, clearly a Dutch flag aswell.

Btw, if nobody wants to- I'll do Russia..


06:50:33 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Love:

Dont play stupid minors people!! We need the big nations to be taken before any others!


14:47:16 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Im not sure about Holland, we might need them to get a better balance in the colonies, but there are plenty of nations in western Europe already. We need central Europeans and eastern.


15:22:41 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Wheres Hungaria?


@Love, I really never liked starting out powerful. I like taking over the wrold from my small country :D


15:24:21 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Im switching to poland for now.


15:28:41 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Nimic:

We really need the top countries filled. Countries like Portugal, Venice, Brandenburg, etc are nice to have, but the biggest are essential.


16:16:51 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Top countrys;
France, Nimic
England, Sezymon
Spain, Swifty
Austria,  <---- Need someone for Austria and we have all the major countries filled
Sweden, Osiris
Ottomans, Love
Russia, Spoon
Poland Ghouma
---
Secondary nations,
Portugal,
Denmark,
Venice, Tobleronex
Hungaria,
(Holland)
Lithuania
HRE Medium sized states,
Brandenburg and
Bohemia.


17:02:59 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Top countrys;
France, Nimic
England, Sezymon
Spain, Swifty
Austria,  <---- Need someone for Austria and we have all the major countries filled
Sweden, Osiris
Ottomans, Love
Russia, Spoon
Poland Ghouma
---
Secondary nations,
Portugal,
Denmark,
Venice, Tobleronex
Hungaria, Might (Sheesh!)
(Holland)
Lithuania
HRE Medium sized states,
Brandenburg and
Bohemia.


17:14:54 Dec 18th 07 - Ms. Minge:

Hungaria really isn't a good option at all imo, Might.

Austria will want it (and will get it), OE is likely to push for it, and maybe even Muscovy/Russia will later on. Anybody playing Hungaria won't last long at all.

You're better off with somebody like Brandenburg. But Hungaria will become Austrias *beep* in no time at all.


17:31:27 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Mbeidas The Black Prince:

Top countrys;
France, Nimic
England, Sezymon
Spain, Swifty
Austria,  mbeidas the black prince
Sweden, Osiris
Ottomans, Love
Russia, Spoon
Poland Ghouma
---
Secondary nations,
Portugal,
Denmark,
Venice, Tobleronex
Hungaria, Might (Sheesh!)
(Holland)
Lithuania
HRE Medium sized states,
Brandenburg and
Bohemia.


17:35:47 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

If one of the major nations are missing when we start and your playing a secondary nation we might tell you to play a primary nation instead.


17:45:10 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Mbeidas The Black Prince:

okay i am starting the install , it will end b4 the date . but :

366.80MB , is kinda a little size , since this game looks like rome total war and better , i thought it will be more than 4 GB


17:52:10 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Hvae u played this game Mbeidas?


17:53:45 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Mbeidas The Black Prince:

ehm no , but i readed all the pages in the first time


18:08:46 Dec 18th 07 - Ms. Minge:

Uh, having not played the game, and picking a nation like Austria is a bit silly. Austria requires a good/experienced player if we're to have a fun and balanced game.

A nub leading Austria will only result in Love slaughtering you.


18:12:36 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Mbeidas The Black Prince:

historically

ottomans invaded austria , but ottomans kept bombing them , and austrian didn't go away , so ottomans called them namsa

and we arabs do call them namsa , but i will have the protection of germany , and i play for fun

( i will probably run )


18:15:54 Dec 18th 07 - Ms. Minge:

What do you mean you'll have the "protection of germany"? "Germany" will be independent states run by the computer, you won't get much, if any protection from them.

You playing Austria may be "fun" for you, but it won't be for anybody else when the OE attacks you and takes control of central europe with ease. Hence the need for the most powerful nations (Austria, France, OE) to be controlled by experienced players.

If you really do want to play, your best off taking a minor nation. But not something that will drastically affect the entire game should you make any nub mistakes. It just isn't right to give somebody who hasn't played before one of the most important nations.


18:26:08 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Thats why im being Hungaria. I have gotten the point and beat one campaign. But! Im still not as good as you guys! (Try not to gangbang me :D)


Ghouma, why would I need to be a primary nation?


18:58:40 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Nimic:

No offense, but having people in the game who haven't played at all wont' be much fun. If you go and read some multiplayer guides/FAQs, and play some hours on your own before the game, it might work.

One very important lesson is don't play just for what's happening at the moment. That's my main concern. In the last big game, Osiris hadn't played a lot before, so when he went to war he usually went much too far not to lose, taking lots of loans, minting lots of money (taking it from your budget directly instead of investing it in tech). We only played 130 years or so, out of 300+, and already by then he was lagging behind in technology.


19:03:30 Dec 18th 07 - Ms. Minge:

Might, I don't think you understand. Hungary is quickly absorbed by Austria, and then OE usually comes up to take the Hungarian pickings if they haven't already been taken.

Playing the standardised EU2 maps is completely different to playing vs people, and I'm not sure if you understand the basic principles (like diplo-annex, for instance). I think Ghouma needs to come in and put his foot down with what countries certain people go, because you going Hungary isn't really viable imo. You'd last not long at all, and then you'd be annexed.


IMO, the new guys should go secondary nations if they really want to play. And if we're stuck for finding a good Austrian player, maybe have Tobler go it. But we can't put the new guys in with the big nations, otherwise the balance of power will go haywire, and they won't last 10 minutes. New guys as big nations = fodder, and the Ottoman Empire, etc, will become too strong off their easy pickings


19:04:49 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Then what should I be?


19:10:00 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Mbeidas you may not play with us until you know how the game works, the same goes for you God of Cows. Its not an easy game to learn!

What are you saying God, that you have finished a campaign? Do you understand how things like Badboy, vassalisation - annexation, colonisation, trading, exporation, inflation and science work?

I dont expect the players being a experts because I doubt alot of the players here understand how some game concepts work, like diffrent tech groups and fully understanding trade centers. But a player that dont understand the basics wont be any fun to have in the game.

Here is a good resource if your new to the game and want to learn.



19:12:55 Dec 18th 07 - Ms. Minge:

Portugal and Brandenburg are decent secondary states. But like Ghouma says, you need a good grasp before playing multiplayer. It isn't as easy as you think, and it isn't all about your own enjoyment. EU2 needs a balance of power (hence the big alliances). If you put a poor player with a good nation, it really upsets the balance and makes the game less enjoyable.


19:21:38 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Nimic:

God of Crows, if you play some EU2, and read some guides and stuff to try to get really into it, then maybe you can play. But I hope you understand our reservation. Not sure you should be Austria, though, and certainly not Hungary.


19:53:35 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Mbeidas The Black Prince:

i agree thanx


20:00:29 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Ghouma, I know everything except vassalisation because I haven't needed to do that yet. I think I am ready for it. Just give me a weaker nation like Brandenburg.


20:12:11 Dec 18th 07 - Dark Lord Finwe:

look people i had played a ton of SP games and i took over europe with austria but i got trashed in my first mp game saved by nimic ;0 so trust me when i say no newbs as austria. austria needs to be strong or ottomens get too big


20:36:50 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Mano:

<- hopes for those big screen shots from taken in game with the histories of how the game goes on, like we had last time :D


20:38:48 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Nimic:

I'll try to do an AAR. If I can remember what the screenshot button was (was there one, or did we just use print screen) :P


21:15:35 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Print screen :)

Everyone who participates should to at least to some extent write an AAR, we hope!


21:16:54 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Love:

If you want to learn you can join as a minor nation. But we wont wait for you ;)


21:35:49 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

yeah exactly.


21:36:03 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

I will join as a minor nation. When is it and what time?


21:49:58 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Nimic:

I think it's primarily 26th-29th december. And everyone will need patch 1.09, ryoken's scenario and Hamachi (a program).


21:52:58 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

you dont have to get Ryokens scenario by yourself, you will download it from the game host.


22:31:23 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Alright I have everything but Hamachi Where do I get it?


22:42:24 Dec 18th 07 - Sir Frederick:

I want to have Brandenburg btw. Im still not on the list. I dont think i can join often enough to play Austria.

Btw, my processor died too i found out after putting in a new power supply off my comp. I may not even be able to play at all. :(


23:06:52 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

Perhaps we could take turns to do aussie? I cant play 26th or 29th...


23:19:40 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Valkyrienet seems to work best this far, it worked for me, tobler and swiffers.


23:54:48 Dec 18th 07 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Wait a minute is this some kind of gaming thing? Why don't we just click "multiplayer" in game?


03:24:28 Dec 19th 07 - Mr. Nimic:

Valkyrienet is the standard MP method, Might.

Anyway, we tried today, and I've run into some problems. I'll have a look at the router tomorrow, if I can. If I can't, and the game runs as scheduled, someone else will have to take France :(


00:35:12 Dec 20th 07 - Mr. Neratu:

ill be portugal


14:50:29 Dec 21st 07 - Mr. Ghouma:

Try and be reachable from about 17-18CET on the 26th!


00:41:13 Dec 22nd 07 - Mr. Messiah:

I'm gonna try and download that map tomorrow and try it out =)
But I wont be online on the 26th =(....


10:15:22 Dec 22nd 07 - Mr. Love:

This is going to be awesome! DONT FRECKIN FORGET!


15:46:13 Dec 22nd 07 - Ms. Minge:

I might not be able to make the 17-18 CET slot, so don't wait for me if I'm not about then. I'll be out of town for practically all the day, bar late evening/night I think. 27th onwards should be fine though


21:07:22 Dec 22nd 07 - Mr. Love:

We will do our best to fill the most important nations with human players. Lets just have alot of fun :)


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