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I was unable to see the other one, so I made this one :/ Max lv1 - (first built - also a wall city) Total: 400
Max lv2 - (size after first built) Total: 6,400
Max lv3 - (square) Total: 14,400
Max lv4 - (first circle) Total: 25,600 Max lv5 (2nd circle) Total: 40,000 Max lv6 (3rd circle, first compact outer edge) Total: 57,600 Max lv7 Total: 78,400
Max lvl 8 Total: 90,000
Can also be found at: http://cloud.visual-utopia.com/images/hum#.gif (Replace # with 1-8) http://cloud.visual-utopia.com/images/orc#.gif (Replace # with 1-8) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
As an addendum to that, perfect production ratios:
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I understand these tables.. However, that leaves them unprotected. Is there a table somewhere, or has someone figured out, the perfect production ration with say, 2k GTs and up? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Well it's only simple math left to calculate production with other buildings... homes = total_buildings / 6 mines/farms/lumbermills = homes * 5 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Okay, for example: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Does this work for you? (Personally I don't like production towns under 25,600 in size) Guard/Magic Towers provide work for 5 (2000=400 homes) peasants each, so they are included Normal Production Cities City Size: 6,400 - 1,067 Homes - 3,333 Mines/Mills/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers - 2,400 Homes - 10,000 Mines/Mills/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 25,600 - 4,267 Homes - 19,333 Mines/Mills/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 40,000 - 6,667 Homes - 31,333 Mines/Mills/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 57,600 - 9,600 Homes - 46,000 Mines/Mills/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 78,400 - 13,067 Homes - 63,333 Mines/Mills/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 90,000 - 15,000 Homes - 73,000 Mines/Mills/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers Halflings (Farms)/Dwarves (Mines) City Size: 6,400 - 1,175 Homes - 3,225 Mines/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers - 2,723 Homes - 9,677 Mines/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 25,600 - 4,891 Homes - 18,709 Mines/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 40,000 - 7,678 Homes - 30,322 Mines/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 57,600 - 11,084 Homes - 44,516 Mines/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 78,400 - 15,110 Homes - 61,290 Mines/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 90,000 - 17,355 Homes - 70,645 Mines/Farms - 2,000 Guard Towers Did this quickly, so I hope these came out all right :| | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yeah, that seems to work out. Thanks. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thought I may as well add this since it has something to do with city sizes...  Pretty sure about this* When placing (for example...) a 90k city, the squares from when you do ctrl + a shows if anything is in the way. In this picture, Brook and Thunderbolt were not built with any mountains/forests/water in the way, so they will be 90k cities. Shusui on the other hand had a small bit of the square going into the water, which caused it to be a 78,400 city :[ I usually use paint to decide where I'm placing my cities at the beginning for 90kers. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
can you make a army size one? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thx for this btw | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yukan, the ctrl + a shows the picture size. Since a 90ker is slighly smaller than the box (especially in the corners) it is actually possible to build a 90ker if the box is overlapping terrain. Just not by enough and if you wanna be safe you should stick with the box ;) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I use this guide far too much for it to fall off the guide pages, soooo; | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
do remember some races can get 90k if there in trees or mines | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Max lv1 - (first built - also a wall city) Total: 400 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum1.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc1.gif Max lv2 - (size after first built) Total: 6,400 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum2.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc2.gif Max lv3 - (square) Total: 14,400 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum3.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc3.gif Max lv4 - (first circle) Total: 25,600 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum4.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc4.gif Max lv5 (2nd circle) Total: 40,000 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum5.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc5.gif Max lv6 (3rd circle, first compact outer edge) Total: 57,600 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum6.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc6.gif Max lv7 Total: 78,400 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum7.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc7.gif Max lvl 8 Total: 90,000 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum8.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc8.gif Can also be found at: http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum#.gif (Replace # with 1-8) http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc#.gif (Replace # with 1-8) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lvl Max Build Homes Production Size Code 1 400 67 333 S1 (small 1) 2 6400 1067 5333 S2 (small 2) 3 14400 2400 12000 B1 (box 1) 4 25600 4267 21333 R1 (rounded box 1) 5 40000 6667 33333 R2 (rounded box 2) 6 57600 9600 48000 C1 (circle 1) 7 78400 13067 65333 C2 (circle 2) 8 90000 15000 75000 W1 (walled 1) 9 200000 33333 166667 W2 (walled 2) As long as you know the number of homes you need to build for a city, that is sufficient, you can make any changes or tweaks all you want, for example you want extra homes for training etc. I came up with sort of a size code so that the sizes can easily be remembered, lets say eventhough a 90k elf city looks like an S2, its should still be called a W1 because its based on size and not appearance. So its like "Build an R2 blocker near Disneyland", or "JLT build a C1 forward magic city", something like that. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yeah, I was trying to put the images back in. Got distracted. Couldn't remember how, quit. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Update: Max lv1 - (first built - also a wall city) Total: 400
Max lv2 - (size after first built) Total: 6,400
Max lv3 - (square) Total: 14,400
Max lv4 - (first circle) Total: 25,600
Max lv5 (2nd circle) Total: 40,000
Max lv6 (3rd circle, first compact outer edge) Total: 57,600
Max lv7 Total: 78,400
Max lvl 8 Total: 90,000
This is an edited version from JLT :) Please let me know if you still can't see these pics. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm baaaaack. Anywho.. Can someone figure out what the limit is to max out a city? Like for a 25.6k city, at X number of buildings, I can put into motion the completion of the city. I think I remember for a 90k building: once 30k buildings are built, you can start the construction of 60k? So, that'd be 33%. I just want to be sure that's what it is. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yes you are remembering correctly | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You can build into a city double what is currently built plus 100. You can verify this on a new city built, where with 1 GT you can build 102 buildings. So if you build a 25.6k up to 8,500 buildings, you can then land drop the last 17,100 all at once. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
welcome back dakarta great to see you! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dont make it more complicated then it has to be :) if you are into dropping cities, just remember build 1/3 of the max amount drop the other 2/3 later | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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