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I posted some stuff about peasant management that A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW OR UTILIZE in the Evil KD forums, but I can post them here if anyone is interested.

I remember playing before halflings were even used!

i still like my humans....but the markets are way different than previous.... nobody buys anything!

Morale is at 100% and they have 5experience. 

Amount of people adventuring on your realm also influences greatly on your finds.

Actually more like 70k advens and right now I got 8 exp

I'm going to concede that I was wrong about exp always coming in stacks of 5, exp was reworked over the last 2 years (especially exp transfer which is what I was testing on this character). I believe exp finds come in 3-5, but it could be less. This is purely anecdotal, but I believe that the total EXP on an advent stack/map affects EXP find amounts. EXP finds appear to be 'predictable' in the same way that the amount of gold you find in treasure finds is 'predictable', but I don't know the variable that dictates how much EXP you find because it's clearly more complicated whereas I know the variable for gold (1000X where X=Total Adventurer in army) because it's extremely important, simple, and overt.

Without getting into specifics about exp transfer and transfer tables I'll just say that EXP appears to taper down when you reach very high total exps in which 'you could transfer very few total units into the army to lose 1 EXP'. Realistically this just means it's better to keep an army around 5-15 EXP and not shoot for 25+ exp unless you are directly competing with another fed Halfling with Adventurers, but the few players who understand adventurers already know to keep their stacks around 9-12 EXP anyways.

Opinion: I understand the reasoning behind some of the changes that were made to EXP/EXP curves in the last 2 years when I have been away. In general they make EXP more valuable instead of being rather worthless because of how hard it was to preserve; but like many VU Mechanics that exist but are not visible it's kind of done so in an iffy way. Sure, EXP is better than ever and finally more 'fleshed out' as a concept, but it's done so in a way that EXPLICITLY favors Halfling because of how EXP treasure finds work.

Solution/Opinion: Taper Exp find amounts HEAVILY at the high end. Zeta and a small handful of players (you know who you are) understand EXP, EXP transfer tables, and EXP treasure finding. EXP should be left as it is because honestly that's one of the best changes I've seen in years (because it adds value to fighting enemies as races like Orc/Troll/Anyone) but unless EXP treasure finds get fixed (or gold finds, which shouldnt be changed IMO) it's REALLY easy to exploit the current system when you understand it.

you have to be gay for the era.

your most cost effective unit has 4 DP, your sciences suck, your armies are slow, your troop upkeep is massive, your prep times are massive, its difficult to get enough peasants to train into troops, and you cannot army of the dead your army when it has over half a million units

Its the number of dead, which do tend to be high with halfers, so a hard cast.

depends on your strategy. For orc, you can reach mil 10 in no time, at a fraction of a halfers cost, and smash a halfer army with a larger ogre army because your training costs are 400 gold cheaper than an advent. So if you going to break shit, ogres or warlords are best value, and have cheapest mil sciences played as a pure aggressor race

A good Orc player will avoid getting his Nazgul caught in the field or trapped in a city against a Halfling player in the lategame if the Orc is using Nazgul and AOTD. Nazgul arent efficient on their own but if you have high military science (8-11~) and you're garrisoned in a city you can amass large numbers and be extremely threatening (anyone who touches/preps your city, even with nearly 3x your power, will get 100% slaughtered).

Nazgul are not as efficient or effective as Berserker or AM in Army-Army field battles or trapped scenarios but they're obviously very good for very many things.

Halfling armies usually consist of Pony Rider (4 DP) or Adventurer (8 DP) and contain massive unit numbers. If you get bounced or take losses you have a lot more units to AOTD which makes it considerably harder and more costly.

Halflings snowball with Experience using Adventurers. Treasure finds are all related in that if only one Halfling player on the world has a massive Adventurer stack with lots of EXP they will find all of the treasure. If two other players also have exactly as many Adventurer with exactly the same amount of EXP/units then they will find one third as much treasure.

True I experienced that in Valhalla :( I had 400k advance and found only alot offarmining levels and forestry. It kinda sucks when you only get useless science levels:( My food production was at 3m:p

Best halfling era I ever played I think. Had another really good one as a mage, but I didn't save anything from it; although, I doubt the sciences and gold finds were as high as this.

Oh so that's why it got nerfed. I heard it was over powered but gosh dang. 

You are not able to find medicine as Advents finds. Only science you can't find, have to buy it yourself. 

Nowadays- is adventuring worth the hassle?