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When countries liek Israel can have nuclear weapons, North korea might aswell have them.

The only reason the started making war was because G.W. Bush decided they where part of the "axis of evil". Before that negotiations with North Korea was going good and a deal was made that ensured that they would never make Nuclear weapons.

But of course if you want to ruin everything that your predecessor made just to make an enemy for the next president i guess G.W. Bush made a good job.

"Dont talk of which you dont know. N. Korea has had nukes, or the ablitiy to enrich uranium for over a decade now. I know Bush is a simpleton, but do go blaming all the worlds problems on him."

Please please! Do not start flaming!
Yes North Korea has had the ability of producing Nuclear Weapons for over a decade. But nothing good would come to them if they did. Clinton made a deal, food vs no nukes, we are friends, all is fine. George Bush stated that North Korea was the enemy of the United States.

Kim Jong Il: Well we are just a stupid small country that would loose bigtime if invaded. Lets get thoose nukes!

I would had done the same! And i do not blame G.W. Bu*beep* was not his idea to say thoose things, he has got a hole staff of people briefing him what to do.

(Edited by Mr. Love 10/10/2006 12:54:28 PM)

Love?

I would had done the same! And i do not blame G.W. Bu*beep* was not his idea to say thoose things, he has got a hole staff of people briefing him what to do.

(Edited by Mr. Love 10/10/2006 12:54:28 PM)

that staff would porbably exist out of election campaign and buisiness mangers

USA pays Bush 400.000 dollar a year he could make hundreds of millions from weapon compeny's if North Koreas has em what do you think the south will do and who will ''help'' them?

Administration hawks suggested last week that perhaps the best thing would be for the North to test, so the world would know exactly what it was dealing with. -NY Times

This test couldnt have come at a better time for GW Bush. Now some of the focus on his senator/pedo/*beep* scandal is changed, just before the midterm elections. Maybe thats why Bush has been so lenient towards North Korea in the last few years.

WTF Froghorn how can you be so narrow minded?

I wonder if you every knew a foreigner/muslim or ever been to the north?

the problem i have with all of this is, north korea have been allowed to continue these things without any real problems, more than any thing they've had empty threats throwen at them, and have obviously not taken them seriously and arent intimidated by other countries, no matter the lack of so called power they have.

Yet in all of this the so called free world, will invade countries like iraq, which include japan as apart of the coallition (who have n korea as a neighbour)....when they had no evidence of weopanry of that kind at all sure hussien tortured people and im not justifying that in any way but the invasion caused a stable country fall into anarchy and split it into 3 with opposing groups sunnis,shiets etc... and for what? there are far more terrible things happening in places like buhma, n korea, china india/pakistan africa.....i suppose those countries and regions arent worth the effort, half are made of jungles and the other waste land.....

NOrth Korea did start a war, 1950, invaded south Korea.

They have a nuke now but it seem their technology is going backwards. their 3 stage rocket failed miserably and a 1/2 to 1 kiloton nuke?

why bother

Juchi

the nuclear boms owned by the US and Russia are up to 50x as strong

the media has that way on people because it focus's on one point and emphasises it, thus producing fear.

In one way your right Oya, but look at it this way. eveytime the US tries to step in and help we get scolded by the rest of the world for policing the world. When we dont do enough we are biggots.

We dont these countries that cry foul step up and help? I dont see France, germany, any EU country in Sudan, Da faur or any region that could really use the help.

Its a huge double standard.

First off, well said necromancer (#7).

North korea did not invade soth korea in the way you think Juchi, keep in mind that the south was governed by a facist dictator that the US had put in power.

Foghorn, that Kim Jong Ill travels with sex slaves is probably just lies, please post a source wich isnt fox news or washington times. I read in the Economist the other day that Kim Jong ill was a intelligent man, hardly the nutcase media portraits him as.

As for israel, the most valid comparison to their domestic politics would be Apartheid south africa. And to their foregin politics Nazi Germany, Israel also seem to fight for "lebensraum". We saw how "responsible" they are this summer when they went to war on Lebanon. And this little nation is to have nukes without sanctions...

Foghorn, when did the US ever invade a country to help them? Name me some nice examples...

Im not gonna say that the european countires are better, we are not. We help USA in Afghanistan, some in iraq. France have their armys running around in africa doing coup d'états with the forgein legion. Germany had a large part in splitting Jugoslavia and so on.

The worst thing humans have done is Imperialism, and it is clearly not over.

*Edit, and please dont make me sick and try to justify American actions just because europeans are bad aswell.

(Edited by Mr. Ghouma 10/10/2006 4:00:49 PM)

The difference is that everywhere USA is ASKED to help, they dont do *beep*. And everywhere we dont think its necessary to mess, they start a war with europe as shield and in the end it turns out it was for oil, money or putting people in power (south corea) that give the US an option to meddle far away from their homeland.

The difference is were trying to help with money and food, USA just bombs the whole country.

The difference is the US calls europe old fashioned but they forget theyre just a bunch of Ex-Brits, Ex-French and Ex-Germans that came in with the Mayflower. Exactly the ones they like to joke about.

Take out the WW2 ones and theres not much left. And in WW2 - USA was not needed. Europe won the war faster with USA but in the end Russia would have broken the german military and would have taken over germany. THATS why USA meddled - they didnt want to help they just didnt want russians expand their power into western europe. As if they would care for us.

Nations always help themselves (as exaple US) Becouse US won the war from the Axis we belive they 'saved us' but if Axis would win we would probably think they 'saved us'.

"Wonder what would've happened in WW2 if the US didn't do anything."

To be fair, when you say USA is a suplier of food, its not be nice the USA gives poor countries food. They dump their abundance at poor countries even though its devastating to the nations own agriculture. Countries with a serious aid policy (read most nrthen/western european nations) help the nations develop their own agriculture, but that is costly and does not profit companies. That is a huge difference between USA and Europe.

If you look at how much USA have given in aid per capita and compare it to northen/west Europe you wont find your efforts very immpressive.

* (edit) It can be worth considering that america is a nation where 45% of its population belive the earth is less then 10.000 years old. When people belive that, what wont they buy from the president and the media ;)

(Edited by Mr. Ghouma 10/10/2006 7:58:48 PM)

so u guys think that the if the usa didnt jump in ww2 u still wouldve won?thats interesting cuz from wut i could tell and im really into ww2 it seemed that u guys werent doing well before usa jumped in.

"so u guys think that the if the usa didnt jump in ww2 u still wouldve won?thats interesting cuz from wut i could tell and im really into ww2 it seemed that u guys werent doing well before usa jumped in"

Yes we where doing very well. We occupied all of europe. If the USA never would had invaded we would consider ourselves to be the winners of WW2. No matter which country you come from, Germany, France whatever.

oh its a self important yank (a few spoil it for the many). we went to war to protect someing. i have no dout that is u lot hadnt helped out (which was a responsiblity NOT a friendly gesture) we would have lost. but if u lot had helped out earlier u would have saved thousands of lives, dont make it seem like a selfless act of heroism only on the usa's part.

however, we are a little off topic aint we :p

oh and its an assumtion that u are a yank if ur not them i am sorry, i cant be bothered to edit it out now, but my opinion stands

"europe is ur continent..so u want a medal cuz u defended it?ok usa controlled all of there land.are we winners now?"

I think most people in Europe considers them the winners of WW2.

"oh its a self important yank (a few spoil it for the many). we went to war to protect someing. i have no dout that is u lot hadnt helped out (which was a responsiblity NOT a friendly gesture) we would have lost. but if u lot had helped out earlier u would have saved thousands of lives, dont make it seem like a selfless act of heroism only on the usa's part."

Are you speaking about WW2? You did not "go to war". You where dragged into war against your own will, same as with the rest of Europe. We are all in the same boat.

"and bubbles lets use vu cuz i dont feel like coming up with any other ideas cuz im lazy...if theres a huge war going on and you attacked one of my cities does that mean im dragged into the war now?if i wanted i culda ignored it."

u think that u could ignor an attack like purle harbour. lol

STOP trying to make out that u did europe a favour in jumping into WW2 for *beep* sake! u waited long enough as it is, u could have saved thousands of lives

"funding terrorism and bombing the *beep*e outta musim countrys cos they are different OH YES i'll give u lot credit for 'what you do"

They have to spend their wealth one something now dont they?

well actually im the kinda person that cant be a president or in congress or anything like that cuz i would jump into war if another country said stuff bout ours.wich they dont! (sarcasm [for the retards that cant tell]) so no i culdnt ignore it
(Edited by Mr. Asesino 10/10/2006 10:13:23 PM)