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Petition to Ban NaZZis
12:02:11 Jan 30th 23 - heroix* (Conqueror Malthael):* I am writing to bring to your attention an in-game kingdom that is promoting a genocidal message through the use of the russian flag. All players should treat each other with respect and not engage in hate speech or harassment. The alliance in question is wearing the russian flag in a manner that is meant to intimidate and harass other players. This behavior is unacceptable and must be dealt with promptly. I urge you to take action and ban this kingdom from the game to prevent further harm to the community.
22:12:43 Jan 30th 23 - ZeTa* (VU Admin):* What is the name of the kingdom ?
22:14:20 Jan 30th 23 - heroix* (Conqueror Malthael):* http://visual-utopia.com/mobile/kingdomInfo.asp?kd=6363
22:33:16 Jan 30th 23 - Legend* (I am Legend):* RUSSIA Name: RUSSIA Members: 6 Created: 11/1/2022 10:22:15 AM Leader: Mr. Vladimir Putin Compare kingdom Information Support Russia. We own this from you for saving your generation in ww1 & ww2. You can hate Russia. But you wouldn't be here without the Soviet Union & it's support. Leaders Mr. Vladimir Putin Sir James Willis
23:32:30 Jan 30th 23 - Sir Vytautas Didysis: Fuck them...
03:45:50 Jan 31st 23 - The Black Rider: So what is so" intimidate and harass other players." Surly we not to point of banning people for stuff like this?
04:31:11 Jan 31st 23 - Nayoke the Kid* (Mr. Nayoke Longbeard):* Maybe it's bad satire. Maybe its some dumbass being serious. Either way its pretty mild all things considered and you can just ignore it.
09:22:23 Jan 31st 23 - heroix* (Conqueror Malthael):* I understand that some may view the message as mild, but I strongly disagree. Comparing the Soviet Union's actions to that of the Nazis is not just a matter of opinion - it's a fact. The Soviet Union occupied Eastern Europe for over 46 years, sent thousands of people to labor camps, and committed numerous human rights violations. Just imagine if someone was waving a Nazi flag and saying that we owe them our support for their actions in WWII. It would be just as offensive and inappropriate as the alliance promoting their message. Both the Nazi regime and the Soviet Union committed atrocities that cannot be ignored or justified. Moreover, the current Russian government, the successor of the Soviet Union, is currently committing war crimes in Ukraine. This is a clear violation of international law and a human rights issue that should not be ignored. The alliance's message is not only offensive, but it's also spreading a genocidal message that should not be tolerated in this community.
10:02:47 Jan 31st 23 - Sir Vytautas Didysis: I fully concur with the perspective shared in the message. IT is not just a subjective matter, it's a well-established historical fact. The Soviet Union's long-standing occupation of Eastern Europe, along with the widespread use of labor camps and human rights violations, cannot be ignored or downplayed. The current Russian government committing war crimes in Ukraine. This is a serious violation of international law and a blatant disregard for human rights, which should not be overlooked or condoned. It is imperative that we reject any message that spreads a genocidal ideology or glorifies a history of violence and oppression.
10:02:48 Jan 31st 23 - Lord Caedus: I must admit, I do tend to agree with the principle Heroix is outlining. I think the issue here is that this community is built around trolling (often) and so I'm not sure how well the above can be received or how likely it is to change. The only other option would be to protest VU by quiting, bad mouthing it on the internet - but again, to what end? It's dying anyway.
15:22:52 Jan 31st 23 - Dark Spawn* (Lord Dark Spawn):* Name of the kingdom is not offensive, its only that short kd description that somewhat could be offensive but not for a ban. Saying Russia is same as Nazi Germany is not only wrong but could be considered as spreading hate with this thread. The only problem community has with Russia as a kingdom is that it looks like a multi kingdom, last time they played. This time they only have 2 alive members, so not an issue. But it might be good to actually take w look at activity of members, see how they build and who / if anyone plunders their cities. Maybe last 3 eras these players played on any world. And post results here for everyone to see.
15:40:35 Feb 1st 23 - Mr. Elsin: When I read the name of the thread I was fully expecting to see a petition to ban nazgul from VU :)
15:51:22 Feb 1st 23 - Mr. Igniuz: You not the only one:p
22:25:33 Mar 20th 23 - Revolution* (Lord Uther Pendragon):* 09:40:35 Feb 1st 23 - Mr. Elsin: When I read the name of the thread I was fully expecting to see a petition to ban nazgul from VU :) Report This is what I came here to say as well rofl
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