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@Fellation - that's exactly what I meant...

@Dead Oralive - ... who's crying? And they will flame you even if you played on fant, maybe because they don't know who you are because you changed name.... but that's still disrespect.

@Fellatio - You feel much better now, don't you?

well, the respect must be earned, but then if people are going to be slagged off then they should have done something other than being new to deserve it.

I FEEL OLD! Do I have your respect?

Here's the deal, oh Morning Lord.

Beyond what his gheyness, the Egyptian diety, said the experienced players are just that, EXPERIENCED. Alot of the guys that'd fall into that category have been around since the betas of this game and have a very thorough understanding of how the mechanics of the game work.

So, when many of the suggestions that come up nowadays (and one reason I don't prowl those forums anymore) aren't, at best, well thought-out (or at worst, completely stupid to begin with) then people will flame away. As is the norm for about any forum nowadays.

My advice? Play the game a little bit, come up with a good suggestion and we'll listen. Otherwise, keep the stupid thoughts to yourselves.

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@ Ron Jeremy - Then give respect to me that I have played for some 10 eras and managed n.4 spot last era? And that I've got some 5 suggestions implemented, including you getting 1 bonus turn every day from the HelpVU page....

@ Finwe - Sure, respect has to be earned, but usually you start with 0, not -50.

@Vengence - exactly.

this is true. you get treated with respect in this game for two different reasons however, and in two different ways xelna*beep*ou have respect on the map if you are a  good player in the respect that you do not get attacked as much if you have their respect as a powerful ruler, and you are more often sked for peace. you earn respect in the forums and so on by not sp@mming, contributing to the topic and not slagging everyone off.

@Xelnaga - Sure score means crap, but then again, if somebody manages to get in top10 he isn't a new player for sure...
So how is respect earned? By going around and saying "This topic is meaningless"? Doubt so.

@Dead Oralive - Dead.

You gain respect by proving you're a good player. Score means crap for that, just look at that CrissxCross guy he won an era, but as far as I'm concerned he's a B rate player.

Lord of The Morning i can not die! Im am alreay Dead orAlive meaning i can switch between the two and can never truly die in here ;)

"anyway, hopefully i have earned respect through not slagging off people without reason..."

Sorry to seem cruel, but you don't gain any cookies by not slagging off on anybody. Nobody cares, you do gain respect if you make solid arguments which sometime can be construed as slagging off.

@Finwe - look up the suggestion thread if you care about it, ask zeta...

@fellatio - so how does one prove he's a good player? playing with honor? playing in a good kingdom and fighting good say... against legacy? I've got respect from those who know me...
What I was talking about is new players getting flamed down for speaking up. Some quit the game because few are being nice to them...
As for cirssxcross... no idea how he won, considering he didn't even know humans had the 10% discount on market (and likely much more).... Guess activity matters more than skill?

lol....your just sore b/c he beat u....

"lol....your just sore b/c he beat u...."

Talking out of your ass is the way you want to gain respect? These are the kind of posts that make me flame people.

indeed the one where Abydos took lgc to war and baccus stood back and whored :) so they jumped lgc and abydos in the rankings

As if I care what they do, you seem to be under the impression that we're here to make others feel good. We're not! If you're a retard I'll tell you straight up, I think that's a fair attitude.

" If so, I really pity them."

I'd pity them too, good thing I don't plan on having kids for at least 8-10 years.

You're simply wrong. If he is just a new player than he realizes that he knows *beep* about the game and he'll shut up until he learns the game before making suggestions about how to change it. However if you've been playing for a few weeks and are making suggestions thinking you know better than the ones that have been playing for years or that you have some original idea nobody thought of in the years since the game was created YOU ARE A RETARD.

Excuse me? Help VU page is old, very old.

EDIT: Wait... What am I doing explaining myself to you, I don't give a *beep* who you are or what you think or your hollier-than-thou attitude. I flame who I want when I want for whatever reason I deem necessary, end of story.

From my experience, VU is particularly harsh against new players and their ideas.  In a lot of other games, veterans will EXPAND on a new player's idea, not just shoot itdown because "they don't know the game mechanics."

Some suggestions are just lame.  Like "we should be able to build walls!"  Or "you should be able to go through forests" or "you should be able to walk across rivers."  BUT if Zeta were to implement a new style of great wall that is more flexible and desctructible, then these ideas may actually be able to work without entirely ruining the game. 

+1 for Sloth

here's the thing, when a good suggestion gets in, the vets (in my time, anyway) were all about it. it's just that 95% of the time, it's something thought up on the spot with no considerations about the implications that, in the example of boats, it'd make most every map useless.

Floppit!

High 5 to lord of the morning - we have to keep a respectfull attitude towards people we don't know very well, not because you are a nerd in VU that youre smarter than him in other things

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