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Shut up commie!

ok, ok, ok....can we grow up, just a little? boys you should be more respectful...serously.

....hopeless. children not even old enough to vote yet they are politicians.

did george bush really did this ..i..

or its photo making

i bet he did it

no he actually did it when he thought the camera's werent turned on. You can even find the video on the internet

i'll bet that none of you even know what communism is

i bet your a fool A.G.

true Communism is the best government, however due to human greed it will never truely be established.

sakaal, he just said he didn't think anyone knew what it was. I didn't want to debate it, really. Your very right, it's rubbish as is anything that won't work.

I really don't care, i just think it's foolish to sit here and down other peoples governments when without first hand knowledge you can't say one is better than another cuz the are all f-ed up

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So useing your logic, had only 2999 people died in 9/11 would that be the US's success.. I don't really think so. THe US whipped them conventionally but that doesn't mean anything if the country goes into a worse state then it was before we came. Also, Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9/11, that was Osama.

The fact is George Bush mislead his people by taking advantage of their fear of terrorists, he made it sound like Iraq was involved, that Saddam was the worst man alive, that they had WMDs and posed an iminant threat to the US citizens lives. None of these things were true at all. He was horrible.

"I think he spent to much of the nations income." I agree with you, seeing as the richest country (the US) in the world is 8 TRILLION dollars in debt thats like 12 zeros.

Arthion, I love you but I disagree with you

In a way Bush did not just burn those trillions. He just transfered them from the US government to the M.I.C. including his own happy family of course. Halliburton is just one name on the list.

Here is the Bush's strategy:

1. Take from your people (others too if possible).

2. Put in your own and your friends' pockets.

3. Make some excuses to cover it.

4. When you get busted, deny everything. Replace the puppet. (Bush steps down, next puppet steps in.)

5. Go to 1.

Through all these steps the American voters will buy it over and over again.

Bush didn't say Iraq was involved in 9/11. He was just finishing his dads war, but Iraq did at one point have WMDs but our media gave them plenty of warning that we were going to attack, so he got them out of his country.

i mean is it fake

For one Bush wasn't the greatest president of all time, but he wasn't horrible. I think he spent to much of the nations income.  Yes actually he is a horrible president.
Just remember America was attacked first and over 3000 people died.

Yes, we were attacked before we invaded Iraq.  However they had nothing to do with it, and we had been planning on attacking Iraq long before we were attacked by the terrorists.

 Now that Bush went after those who attacked us and Saddam people are getting all made because US solders are dying.

Bush didn't send anywhere near enough men after the people who actually were responsable for our being attacked.  Instead he'd rather have his war with Iraq for personal reasons.


But I guaranty in no instance did 3000 solders die in one day. I think thats pretty successful.

You have a poor sense of success.  Even losing 10% of that during the entire war is bad.  Especially when there was no reason for the war to begin with.


And on top of that their has been no successful terrorist attacks on American soil since this war.

Had Bush and his administration been doing their job in the first place, the 9/11 one wouldn't have happened either.  Believe me, when terrorists are good and ready to attack us, they will.


That success for Bush right their protection of innocent American lives.

We are actually less safe that before. Not only have we failed to get the people responsible for the attacks, we have created more terrorists that hate us and managed to piss off several of our allies.  I feel soo much safer now... NOT!

Let me just recap here:
1.) The people responsible for the 9/11 attacks have not been brought to justice.
2.) We started a war we can't win.
3.) We weakened our Armed-Forces.
4.) We pissed off some of our allies.
5.) We have made more terrorists due to our actions.
6.) We've spent billions of dollars to make our country weaker.


If you define that as success, I'd hate to see a failure.

About the WMDs, the people who were sent there to look for them (long before 9/11) reported there were none.  So saying he moved them out when the media started going on about is bs. 

"1.) The people responsible for the 9/11 attacks have not been brought to justice."

A good branch of Al-Quida has been paralized or destroyed.

2.) We started a war we can't win.

It's not really a war we're fighting now, though.  We won the war easily.  The hard part is occupation and reconstruction.

5.) We have made more terrorists due to our actions.

But now we can catch them far more easily, or are simply aware of them.

"6.) We've spent billions of dollars to make our country weaker."

This is hardly fact so much as opinion.  I agree, 430 billion dollars probably could have done a lot more on helping America in its domestic issues than paying rich men more money for their war gear and oil.

"About the WMDs, the people who were sent there to look for them (long before 9/11) reported there were none.  So saying he moved them out when the media started going on about is bs.  "

Inspectors were not given full access to inspection sites.  Bush demanded that Saddam comply, but no answer.  It is indeed quite possible that he moved or destroyed the weapons.

Inspectors were not given full access to inspection sites.  Bush demanded that Saddam comply, but no answer.  It is indeed quite possible that he moved or destroyed the weapons.

I'm not talking about the inspectors, there have been CIA (rather ex-CIA)agents (those who were actually in charge of monitoring Iraqs weapons situation) that have stated there were none and hadn't been any since shortly after the first Iraqi war.

"there have been CIA (rather ex-CIA)agents (those who were actually in charge of monitoring Iraqs weapons situation) that have stated there were none and hadn't been any since shortly after the first Iraqi war."

Ok. finding a few "ex-CIA members", and taking their word, which has a lot more chance of being false than the official Pentagon reports of the situation by real CIA inspectors put into a report checked by the pentagon, sounds like your trying to get evidence wherever you can find it

And by people at the pentagon are you still referring to the ex-CIA agents.
And their was plenty of time after "shortly after the first Iraqi war." for Suddam to build WMDs He had all through clintons(not aimed to dis clinton in this post) era to build them.

Your the one who said they were ex-CIA members not me remember.

"there have been CIA (rather ex-CIA)agents "

Bruto Cikayson, yes that is politics in a nutshell already since the Roman times (or surely since the dawn of civilization), but today it is not that brutal in many civilized countries. A great majority of politicians for example in my country are not that corrupted.

It will be interesting to see how the situation develops over time. I'm not sure how low corruption can be maintained or is it bound to increase over time.

Political assassinations these days are extremely rare e.g. in most European countries. Sure they still take place in certain countries where more polarized opinions exist. I'm not sure which assassinations are more common now: ideological motives (radicals killing anyone), or economic power and money (conservatives killing competing conservative or radical leaders). I guess in the end the two are the same, because the ideological groups typically want the economic power for themselves.

Anyway, I wouldn't be too proud of living in a republic (or any so called "democratic" country) where assassinations are still used to help people elect the right leaders and to remove mistakenly elected unconvenient people. Elections don't work very well when combined with that kind of violence. When people bend and break the rules too much, everyone will soon lose faith in the system. That in turn promotes rebellious spirit. In other words, you cannot stay in power forever with foul play.

Maybe all this only means they cannot assassinate too many democratic presidents in a row... But surely, if you can't blow the president's head off, you can always blow the president and sink him in some sex scandal or other dirty story. Just try to keep your own puppets clean and replaceable. Buy, smear, or kill the other party's candidates--before or after elections.

HIS DAD ENTERED IRAQ THROW KUWAIT AS YOU THINK HE LIBRA IT HE TOOK THE PETROL .

DO AMERICANS KNOW A THING SAID TO BE FINISHING HIS DAD WAR YOU SAY IN THAT POINT HE IS A KING NOT ELVIS BUT AS YOU SAY IT IS

I DONT CARE IF REPABLICANS WON OR DEMOCRISONS BOTH ARE WITH ISRAEL .

But just a little FYI. Hussein was put to power by CIA becouse he WASNT a commie

Yup, we also are responsible for training Usama and giving him weapons and money.  We have a bad habbit of doing that.

"A great majority of politicians for example in my country are not that corrupted."

Which country is that?

"Anyway, I wouldn't be too proud of living in a republic (or any so called "democratic" country) where assassinations are still used to help people elect the right leaders and to remove mistakenly elected unconvenient people."

I acknowledge that America had its fair share of dirty business in central and south america during the cold war, but what assassinations are being carried out today by the US?