orc or troll

orc or troll
18:43:09 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Dragonboy: now we must decide fairly which is probably the best militairy or whether they are equal
18:43:52 Aug 17th 07 - Wolflord Karac: Troll
18:45:47 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Dragonboy: your reaon is?
18:48:47 Aug 17th 07 - Wolflord Karac: Orcs only decent unit is Nazzie. Costs too much, where as all Troll units are decent, and super cheap. Science may be high for trolls, but their #s make up for it.
18:49:45 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Dragonboy: hmm good point lets see what everyone else say
19:47:29 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Iwasfrozen IV: Orc, troll is good but nazzies are fast, cheap for their points, and have low up-keep. Though the troll mages having 1 attack dose give them i small up-start.
20:37:17 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Ghouma: Orc is amazing.
20:42:47 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Dragonboy: the main reason i made this thread is to see which race i should use for next era im also thinking of using dwarves
20:42:57 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Strike Zakira: Chose Orc they got a good range of unit and there lv1 unit don't need peasant to train since there made of dust and only 90 ea but with discount it be 45 gp ea and you can still turn them into peasant it lie a slave for 45 gold but 100% convert :) plus there Nazgul inorge wall bonus if there in a pure Nazgul group and military it like elf magic science but it to military and when you train orc troop it don't require much training so you can train 10k unit in 6 day other like 20day
20:45:11 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Strike Zakira: Dwaft hmm... there power of there armies come in number and it possible since they got great income they dont need trees but double stone they make but this is great for STG then there cavemaster give gold and stone bonus and it great also there sceince is like halfer but beetter then troll and weaker then human
20:47:22 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Iwasfrozen IV: i still think when it comes to fighting troll is the best. P.S if this is your first era i recemend human, don't use on your first era dwarve as it will hinder your learning for wood for other races.
20:48:35 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Dragonboy: so you reckon i should use orc?
21:01:22 Aug 17th 07 - Ms. Hathor: orcs, no walls, lower upkeep on nazzies though high upkeep on gaia and "afordable" sciences. And trolls special effect is killing each other :s
21:01:35 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Orly: "you can still turn them into peasant it lie a slave for 45 gold but 100% convert :)" I'm pretty sure this is false, it has only been like this only 1 era and that was some time ago.
21:01:48 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Iwasfrozen IV: no, human. Orcs econ is weak, (7 gold max) so it is harder then you think to pump out those nazzies, Also orcs have to pay upkeep when in another teamates city, witch makes then crap at defending. ;-)
21:04:18 Aug 17th 07 - Ms. Hathor: You don't have to defend if you kill your enemy first.. =)
21:07:37 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Kassius Xxi: yes but you dont see many new players going round pwning everyone do you? i say human they may not be the best race but ther well rounded and can teachall the aspects without dwarf tree ignoring and orc upkeep costs but if you dont want human then id say dwarf simply cus theyre so easy.
21:07:46 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Orly: Overall orcs are pretty weak, only way they are really worth it is if you have a kingdom feeding strat going and get fed through the market with stone for StG.
22:00:04 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Mijamoto Mushashi: you can always stg for yourself
22:11:37 Aug 17th 07 - Sir Ragnarr: I'm using human. And I have the strange feeling they have no bonuses at all,... My advice - try dwarf, if you want to build up yer economy quickly, troll if ye want to kick beep on the battlefield orcs if ye want to have nazguls, I don't need to say why they're great (this thread is not about elves or halfers so I remain quite about them)
22:15:15 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Orly: "you can always stg for yourself" well you can but you won't get much of a profit for 0.85 stone, at least not enough to train enough nazzies to make a difference when compared to other races.
22:41:26 Aug 17th 07 - Mr. Ronald Rommel: and this is where the troll shines .... if u can get your StG rolling with the Troll u are able to make a fortune with StG due to the very cheap Troll mages
21:30:22 Aug 18th 07 - Mr. Soccer: point for humans............... market discount makes stone cheaper for STG.
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