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Ufo and Aliens | ||||
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"Why do we always assume that they will come on friendly terms." We do? Most of the movies out there don't really show this happening... " think movies such as independence day and war of the worlds paint a more realistic picture of what it would be like if an alien race came to this planet." Though I haven't seen Independance Day, I get the feeling the aliens come, nuke us, and that's how it all begins? To me it seems more likely there will be some sort of period of diplomacy. But of course, you never really know, because it is naiive to predict the patterns of intelligent life as the only intelligent life we have ever known is ourselves. | ||||
I think theyll spy us for a long while. Maybe a whole generation in their lives. Then, if they are stronger then us and need our flesh or resources on Earth, theyll attack. So lets hope Earth is useless to them. And hope they are herbivors. Else, theyll prolly attack. SO I say NasA should begin building battle-space-huds. BSH's, ior Biatches. We could use some defence you know... | ||||
Maybe ther'es no evidence and alot of supposition as vell as conjecture but look at it in this light. in our own galaxy theres billions of stars. In the universe theres millions of galaxies. How could one beleive that there is no intelligent life out there? Maybe they haven't come here or maybe they have, but to say that in all those galaxies, with so many stars we couldn't begin to calculate the number, each with the possibilities of planets, that there is no intelligent life is pretty arogant, and in my opinion born of the desperate need to beleive that we are in some way special. As far as any intelligent life that may have existed already being dead. That falls among the same level. In those millions of galaxies stars are born and die every day. millions of st*beep*xist in varying stages of lifespan, to say that none contain intelligent life is basically stating that we are the last species to ever gain rational thought. while i'm sure that many civilizations have risen and fallen throughout the universe, i am willing to bet there there are countless other civilizations all in various states of developement, from "caveman" states to so advanced we could't comprehend, and not recognizing such a possibility is prety xenophobic really. As far as all the videos, eyewitness sightings and government conspiracies are concerned. I would't put it past our government nor the governments of other countries to be developing very advanced technology. Way back when verticle take-off and landing jet were being developed, the bases which housed such testings, never knew they were doing so, except a select few at said bases and all soldiers stationed there were rounded up and herded inside where they couldn't see what was going on, and many "sightings" of "ships" hovering in the air, or moving straight up and down were confirmed to be these tests. The honest truth is the human mind is capable of beleiving anything, and will draw conclusions based on what it sees and hears, and also rationalize said sights to conform with what they are most comfortable with. Now maybe aliens have visited us, and maybe we have even obtained crashed vehicles but 99% of sightings are most likey to be government testings/drunken sightings (or acid trips, i know i saw something in the sky during one which totally flipped me out)/The desperate need for attention or desperate need to beleive that what they saw was something greater than ourselves. As too aliens sharing technology with us. One must look at many things through out our own history, some of which just can't be explained. 1. Look at the Nazca civilization. They drew many figures in the ground which were so large they could only be seen from high in the sky, yet were so perfectly formed as to be very unlikely planned by normal people especially when you take into account the severe lack of any other technology present in their society, also many stright lines were drawn which scientist today can't find any rhyme or reason to except possibly as runways. 2. Look to the Incan civilization. In the same general area of the nazca Southern American area. The built large monoliths from stone with expert crafting. Also there was found on one of their ruins a human skull made of crystal, so perfectly formed that even under electron microscopes scientists could see no chisel marks nor mold lines, a feat we still to this day cannot reproduce, yet we see no real technology from said civilization beyond that. 3. The egyptians. While it is possible for pyramids to be crafted by man with blocks of stone that weight tons. the pyramids out there were built with hundreds of these block, fitted together so well that the tiniest razorblade couldn't fit between the cracks, a feat we have only recently been able to reproduce ourselves without mortar, using advanced stonecutting machines, and this was done before mankind was able to create sturdy metals and precision tools able to come close to such a feat. Perhaps none of these things is proof of an outside influence, but in my opinion its a few too many coincidencs to set right in my head. I could go much more in depth on this subject but i've already put ten minutes of reading here so i'll let it go there. | ||||
wow... what can i say i agree with you (it's hard not to after a speech like that) i would love to hear more you seem very intelegent | ||||
1. Civilizations throughout the world have discovered advanced geometry at an early stage, even though we congratulate the Greeks for it. Additionally, the figures are considered likely to be ceremonial signs (perhaps for the gods in the sky.) 3. Recently we haven't had tens of thousands of engineers and craftsmen at hand all at the same time, perfecting each stone block. | ||||
but still the signs are there if we can't reconstruct it with lasers well..... | ||||
"but still the signs are there" But what does that prove? Nothing more than they exist; we can't safely conclude that aliens built it. "if we can't reconstruct it with lasers well....." I don't remember the exact details very well, but I remember hearing that the Egyptians had several meters of leniance at the base level. About the crystal skull, I'd like a bit more background info from a credible news source. | ||||
OMG!! I just saw a UFO last night! It was at a party and me and my friend were like "whoa! It's a UFO!" as a joke. But, it was a UFO! It was round...had a bunch of lights around it..not moving in a straight path..we were like "No way! It can't really be a UFO! But it is...wtf?" | ||||
I agree with many things that have been said, but Ironpick, you deserve pat on the back. I heartily agree with you. Iwasfrozen, I would advise remaining quiet till your brain has completely thawed... And yes, I'm quite sure we could construct (or reconstruct) things like this with devices for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation, but curved lines would be more difficult to use this for than others. Perhaps they grew the crystal in a mold, or perhaps they used different tools for it, or perhaps it doesn't even exist, and maybe, just maybe, we could make something like it. | ||||
I'll give the nazca lines, perhaps they were meant for gods to see, who can say for certain, like i said its all theory and conjecture however i remeber seeing many of those designs and personally don't beleive them to be meant for gods to see. Also It is "possible" the pyramids were constructed solely by man, however i find it highly unlikely since back then it would have been done by slave with hand tools, also the bases could be explained by imperfect construction while not properly taking into account the effect of the massive weight above them versus the centuries they stood, but i'll give you guys both of those. however to condradict Duke Erunion Telcontar let me show this-http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_6_1.htm im not so good with these forums so im not sure if that is an actuall link or if you will have to copy and paste it. However go there and read of the first skull. i originally read about this skull in highschool, world history class and i guess since then they have determined its exact origin is in question, i also watched on discovery channel maybe 7-10 years ago the footage of them studying it. however read all about the first skull, in particular the first paragraph, then a few more down then finally the very last line. the first paragraph and teh one a few paragraphs down mention its make being impossible to recreat to this day and the last line states "it simply shouldn't be". the skull is real, and even if we could recreate it with lazers(which we can't) it wouldn't explain its age which in the link i posted places it's earliest know appearance to be 1943. Again when i read it in my history class it was said to be aztec but now they say honduras so its origin may not be as i thought, but the fact that we are unable to recreate this item speaks volumes. However, like i said in my original post this does not prove aliens interaction with us, but it does leave one wondering honestly. I do not beleive any of our technology we have today comes from aliens. Humans are capable of discovering many things, some by accident and some by design, and i wouldn't beleive aliens actually giving us technology for two reasons. Firstly, it would be foolish to do so since they have no idea if we would turn out to be enemies of theirs, or if they had designs for us and our world 2. If they were sharing actuall technology we would be much more advanced likely, since to get to us they would need faster than light speed and due to einsteins theories on relativity (which i still beleive to be made up of alot of untested, imagined experiment) state that nothing can travel faster than light. And most of our scientist beleive in einsteins theories as facts rather than theory (or guesses as i beleive them to be). i had more to say on number 2 here but it escapes me for now, however you get my point. i personally beleive that things such as the aforementioned skull, the unlikelyness of our own carving of the pyramid blocks (theres no doubt we fitted them together, im just not so sure on how they were made so well) are necessarily proof of alien technology, i just see them as possible evidence of interaction with them (perhaps the skull was a gift, or left behing by accident, or maybe even the creation of it was shared with the high priest of a civilization who was greedy with his knowledge). perhaps i miss-worded my first post on that. Now, i have read this thread again and i noticed someone saying that abductions were BS because why would they abduct hic, drunken farmers rather than leaders and such. let me put my two cents worth in on that as well. Personally (as i said in my original post) i doubt 99% of the sighting and abductions people claim. the human mind is an oddity of it's own that we still do not fully understand, however lets put it in this light. if we were exploring space and came upon intelligent life, and we wanted to study it in secret, who would we choose as targets, drunken/crazy farmers who nobody would beleive, or credible, well know leaders whos word might carry weight with the populace? Ibeleive we would go for the fringe of society, those who, if they spoke up, would be passed off as loonies. The last thing you would want, if studying a race in secret, is word of what you are doing getting out and being accepted by the general populace | ||||
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Interesting:P | ||||
"The validity of this charge is uncertain, but even if the Mitchell-Hedges skull is of modern origin, its structure is no less extraordinary. In all likelihood, every crystal skull in the world was fashioned by plain old human beings of some sort, and regardless of whether the work was carried out five years ago or five hundred years ago, we still don't have any idea how they did it." A lot of people are very clever, whether now or 500 years ago. With the Pyramids, it wouldn't be that hard to cut with an extensive team of overseers, which, according to writings and etc, they had. Ever heard of Imhotep? (Not the priest who is mummified then terrorizes the modern Cairo, but Egypts top architect). Cutting the stone is a simple matter of measuring it, breaking holes in it, putting wedges in it, bloating these wedges with water, then watching them crack. This process makes almost perfect blocks, and likely, any that weren't almost perfect were discarded, while the rest were smoothed. | ||||
There's some evidence now to show that the Egyptians had mechanical saws to cut blocks with, powered by water. | ||||
i saw a ufo once. i saw a dot in the sky and watched it for a long time. it didnt move at all. when i tried to show it to my friends only one saw it. when i looked back it was gone. | ||||
Cmon you guys, untill you see it with your own eyes, dont belive it, and you have to see it and make sure ur alive and not just dreaming, and if you see it make sure you see and ALIEN, not a light. | ||||
most people confesed they made fake films and photos but in relegion nor in jews or chrtions or even we muslims didnt have that in the holy three books so unlikly this universe is big look at desert its big but no people live in ther . alot of planets have water bloto is frozen we can melt it into water but we cant servive ther why just because people made films we start beleiving in them . AND A SERIUOS POINT WHY EVERY MAN SEE WHAT YOU CALLED A UFO ALWAYS HAVE A CAMERA AND A VEDIO TAPPING BUT WHEN THEY SAY WE WERE TAKING HOSTAGES THEY DONT HAVE ONE LOL+LOL | ||||
PYRAMIDS ARE BUILT IN WEIRD WAY IT IS A MAP FOR PEOPLE ON THE SKIES BUT THEY ARE TOMBS ITS SAYS EGYPTIONS GONE TO AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBS CUZ THER IS PYRMIDS THER OR MAYBE EGYPTIONS ARE OLD AMERICANS AND OLD AMERICANS CAME FROM CHINA BECAUSE ITS BELEIVED THAT BERING WAY FROZEN BETWEEN RUSSIA AND ALASKA . | ||||
Last night I woke up in the middle of the night in a large, open, steril-looking room. There were six aliens, two were holding my legs, two were holding my arms. The fifth one stuck a pointy object into my ear (this I believe to be a microchip of some sort), later this same alien stuck a large needle into my belly button. The sixth alien came in later, he was much larger (I think he was prolly about 6'6") whenever he looked into my eyes I could sense cold hatred and was somehow paralyzed. While the sixth alien was there the first four weren't needed so they went to a table in a different part of the room and began sipping what smelled like tea, they don't drink though their mouths of course, but their fingers... While I was in with the large alien I blacked out several times. I am not sure but I believe at one point they took a kidney and a sea man sample... it was the most traumatic experience of my life... | ||||
oooooooooooo you should be a writer or a good dreamer | ||||
if they are anything like humand and the things we call aliens are. | ||||
I think we can safely assume every life form, even an alien one, needs to survive and multiply. Growth requires habitable space that most probably exists on natural or artificial planets orbiting an energy source i.e. a star system. | ||||
why every man have seen UFO have a camera with them do he have a date with aliens? | ||||
I have a feeling that they will come, anal probe one of us, and get so addicted to it that they'll forget why they came in the first place. | ||||
ooooooooooooooooo my fingers are not shaking then come on isnt america so powerfull and it want to lead the world let them so lol | ||||
lol, mbeidas, the stuff you believe in is hardly any better ... grow up already | ||||
It was just a joke... | ||||
Every 50 years we have an intergalactic bowling competition and we keep losing. | ||||
God dang it, we really need to practice... | ||||
Strange no-one has made the point yet that anything you see flying and you don't know what it is, that is a U.F.O., in other words an Unidentified Flying Object. | ||||
i saw a space craft when i went oversea it was small and white as ice it look like it wet i think it come from undersea where the alien are planing a attack | ||||
Interesting, now we have an Identified Swimming Object (ISO) or should I say Identified Wet Object (IWO). | ||||
maybe the alians wanted to take a vecation but strike zakira made them run when they saw his ugly maybe they had to choose mmmm we go to earth or mars i heared mercury is so hot lets choose earth *they was unlucky with strike zakira * did you take picture for them cuz you must have one , its beach , come on a man walking in the street always have a camera but a man on beach dont have camera | ||||
you ever see a picture of what an alien looks like? Beady eyes and the oblong head. It looks like a demonic being. | ||||
Revive fail? | ||||
lol , i think the government has hidden this post and our hero Duneidinaman has found it for the rest of the humanity. | ||||
Before reading all of this, I just want to say: | ||||
2012 star people ( Aliens ) will come and offer to take people. they are friendly and nice ect. ( it is consitered to be the "Comming" as Christianity or Catholics likes to believe ( small amount of people know this because Government likes to hold this back from us .. Can you imagian if all of us knew it would cause Global Caous and the government would not have control, Nastadomis and many Phycics foreseen this event but many hid the fact this will happen, There is aliens! it is selfish to think we are the only one in the entire universe | ||||
You're not crazy, just retarded. | ||||
I foretell that in 2023, Skynet will activate and begin a nuclear war before beginning the Rise of the Machines. *** It has been foretold! IT WILL COME TRUE!!! | ||||
lol, i just seen this thread, i'm gonna read it all wen i get some time. seems a fun read. | ||||
" Can you imagian if all of us knew it would cause Global Caous" | ||||
Mr Fireforge: Also there was found on one of their ruins a human skull made of
crystal, so perfectly formed that even under electron microscopes
scientists could see no chisel marks nor mold lines, a feat we still to
this day cannot reproduce, yet we see no real technology from said
civilization beyond that | ||||
oh, I forgot to add, under tests in a lab environment there were chisel like marks found in the jaw/teeth area. So, I dunno. :) | ||||
Interesting Mr. Coolcat Talorc. | ||||
I think my IQ and EQ just dropped by even clicking on this thread but the Giggle Meter went up exponentially after reading it ;) Cheers to all the posters ^_^
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Unidentified Flying Object ... nobody is saying that it comes from anther planet, it is only unidentified ... but sure, just like people want to see some sort of a god in everything, they want to see aliens in something they see flying in the sky (or some dot/line/whatever on a camera/picture), not to mention all the hoaxes (because cropcircles are REALLY made by extra-terrestrials!!! (it takes 10 minutes to draw one, and a few hours to make one ... and you can tell some great stories and laugh your asses off when some *beep*s start talking about what they imagine in their heads)) so, ufo's exist ... but they are definately not aliens . it's science-fiction if you think they are, wishfull thinking, or if you like doomsdaystories ... a load of crap bassically. | ||||
Well I believe that there are aliens. | ||||
I'd say if a certain civilization has reached a certain level of technology as most here speculate about aliens, they would have self destructed. Acting on stimuli is one of the basics in evolution so I would think that if aliens are of organic origin, they would have a similar complex impulses as humans do. I don't deny the idea of their existence, but interstellar travel is just too much pain. | ||||
Why cant we start an intergalactic war??? I mean we have Septim on our side we cant possibly lose if he's fighting with us. | ||||
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