Chinese Armada

Chinese Armada
05:33:38 Oct 27th 08 - Mr. Turigle III The Axe Master: Does anyone here knows about the Chinese naval fleet in the 1400s? It said that if china continue to enhance and build more ships that is 20 times larger than European ships, maybe EU will not conquer Asia because of the massive and large Chinese ships. But it only last for about 3 dynasty before EU began to explore the unknown oceans. I think if china continue to build and enhance their fleet, our history may change.
05:44:59 Oct 27th 08 - Mr. Pilosa: just like large ships saved the spanish armada from the british? lol
07:12:49 Oct 27th 08 - Mr. Haldimir VIII The Archmage: More larger than than spanish ships.
18:22:52 Nov 1st 08 - Mr. Millenium: ya, i heard about that... the huge ass junk ships... i dont think so man.... wayy too hard back then to pull an entire fleet from one side of the earth to the other...
13:51:01 Nov 2nd 08 - Mr. Brainiac: well they could have raided entire countries for food/resources/ filled up ships along the way to reach europe lol
13:52:49 Nov 2nd 08 - Dark Lord Osiris: and if aliens had come down and given the greeks cannons we would all speak greek!! omg talk about a load of crap lol
10:01:05 Nov 13th 08 - Mr. Hannibal: They were cool ships, but they were far to slow and costly to have made any real difference. Vikings successfully raided because they were fast, and their equipment was easily replaceable. A large navy allows you to control islands, but it would have been impossible for the Chinese to spread their influence very far inland. Controlling nations far from your power base just wasn't feasible at those times. Look at how England lost America.
12:15:19 Nov 13th 08 - Mr. Tyrgalon: they could have changed history, the european ships at that time where like war galleys and the chinese like modern warships in comparison. and they could easily have gone all the way to europe, they had "farms" on their ships and hugh watersuplies.And its easy to control a area if you can deploy hugh armies like the chinese had at that time to conquer the inner lands.
21:14:38 Nov 13th 08 - Duke Arzun: I actually did an entire research project on this. And I read a book on it, 1426 I believe, it's pretty good. And the chinease wern't all about spreading their culture, they were more about taking in everyone elses. Which is why people are still finding plants and animals native to Africa and other distant places in China.
12:16:40 Nov 19th 08 - Ms. Faketortise: The chinese reached the southern cap of africa before they turn back. Their goal was to trade and make friends not invade. It was around 90 years? before the first EU ships reached that part of africa.
01:48:47 Nov 20th 08 - Lord Protector Nimic: This is pure fantasy. There is no way they could have taken a large fleet around the world at that time in history, and no way they would have been able to invade all of Europe. It's just silly.
04:13:54 Nov 20th 08 - Mr. Pilosa: Nimic, get your logic out of here. By the way, the Chinese also invented golf, and colonized America hundreds of years before Europeans ever visited.
04:20:13 Nov 20th 08 - Lord Protector Nimic: Colonized? No. There's a chance they actually went there, though most historians don't think it ever happened. But that wasn't before the Vikings went there in any case, and last time I checked they were European. And really, who cares about golf? If you want to brag, you should point out that they invented gun powder.
05:02:19 Nov 20th 08 - Mr. Turigle III The Axe Master: Yes, they did not want a colonization but their aim is to be a mighty empire in terms of economy. I think if they continue to extend their presence in sea, we the Asians, might not be conquer by the Europeans and china would be the superpower of the world.
05:05:15 Nov 20th 08 - Mr. Turigle III The Axe Master: Lord Protector Nimic Report 11/19/2008 5:48:47 PMThis is pure fantasy. There is no way they could have taken a large fleet around the world at that time in history, and no way they would have been able to invade all of Europe. It's just silly. It is not silly, that is true because I read and watch all accounts about the Chinese fleet. It is composed of 300 ships that is 20 times larger than European ships. But when the 1500's come, that is the time when china stop their presence at sea.
12:19:49 Nov 20th 08 - Ms. Faketortise: Because they run out of gold. Moral of the story mine more gold for army upkeep ;)
12:47:24 Nov 20th 08 - Lord Protector Nimic: 20 times larger than "European ships"? Yeah, I think you're going to have to back that up with some sources before I believe that. And of course it's silly. Even if they did have that fleet, and somehow managed to sink all the European fleets, what would they do from there? Drop off 50,000 Chinese and sail back to China to return with reinforcement in a year or two? They were fairly mighty in the 13-1400s, but the reality of conquest half way around the world would prove too much ;)
18:15:34 Nov 20th 08 - Mr. Dreadlord: wow hurt ego's. XD
03:13:06 Nov 21st 08 - Lord Protector Nimic: I'm not Chinese, so my ego wouldn't be hurt. Neither was I alive in the 15th century. I'm just interested in history and teaching, and teaching people history ;D
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