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National Pot Smoking Day
20:27:06 Apr 20th 12 - Mr. Xerxes The Almighty:

Happy 420!!!

 


20:33:43 Apr 20th 12 - McMax (Mr. Nobody):

Ohhh man. I have not tried that since back in 1975.....Midsummerday (naaa the evening).

Not that it had any influence on my mind.... I was rather hmmmmm "dizzy" already, but I do remember I was somewhat disappointed.


21:00:01 Apr 20th 12 - heroix (Mr. Unicorn The Rapist):

Ofc id din't have influence on your mind it's not LSD.


07:29:37 Apr 22nd 12 - Mr. Devi:

Is it over yet?




04:18:49 Apr 27th 12 - Mr. Thick Rooster:

friends i dont think marijuana is very good for you some reasons for this is because its bad gangs do it and it causes cancer. further more, it is a gateway drug leading you to things such as heroin and cocaine. these drugs are bad because people get addicted and rob people to get money for these drugs. in conclusion marijuana is bad for you so friends i think you should stop consuming it, m'kay?


15:09:20 Apr 28th 12 - Lord Jellybean (Mr. Jellybeanz):

Gangs caused by the fact its illegal. Shesh. 


22:07:00 Apr 28th 12 - Sun Warrior King (Mr. Palpys Best Friend):

Never had it but I would rather smoke cigars or hookah. Both are very relaxing.


02:51:45 Apr 29th 12 - Elite (Mr. Elite):

It's a gateway drug because its illegal, i've smoked for years now and I never tried anything else. You might also say it's addictive, I can stop smoking for as long as I want, without any real effort (unlike cigars which I cant get rid of). Once you have enough experience with marijuana you will be able to deal with the effects easily and do anything you would without it. It also makes you think allot and reflect upon what you do daily which is excellent.


05:51:51 Apr 29th 12 - Mr. Thick Rooster:

you can deal with the effects easy and stop smoking when you want, yet you have been uncontrollably smoking this gateway drug daily (as evidenced in the last sentence) for years?


07:08:07 Apr 29th 12 - Mr. Devii:

Yes...Because it's fucking awesome. Now go have a few drinks, and slide into a family of 6 while we sit here and burn, chillin to some tunes making food.


07:12:50 Apr 29th 12 - Mr. Noid:

I think Thick Rooster is trolling!  He takes Elite's "i've smoked for years now"

and turns it into "yet you have been uncontrollably smoking".

Try substituting just about anything and see what happens

I've been drinking milk for years now -> yet you have been uncontrollably drinking milk

 


07:29:57 Apr 29th 12 - McMax (Mr. Nobody):

Doctor to man: You are drinking too much.

Man to doctor: How much is "too much"?

Doctor to man: More than 5 each day (in Denmark the healty-bastards has reduced that amout to 3, so I have to become more than 250 years old - even if I stopped drinking now ;-)).

Man to doctor: Only 5????? Geeee, that's what I'm spilling even before I get the first one down.........


18:38:13 May 1st 12 - Elite (Mr. Elite):

Ive been smoking for years because i want to, not because of an addiction to marijuana. I have stopped smoking for long periods of time (money was needed elsewhere) without any real effort. An alcoholic wouldn't be able to do this, and yet alcohol remains legal.


Marijuana is less dangerous then most legal drugs. Proven by the fact the council of misuse of drugs , the group of scientists employed came back and said marijuana should be legal , they was then fired , the facts are that marijuana and 'drug wars' are used as a scheme to funnel more votes to parties. 


03:22:03 May 13th 12 - Sir Dark Magician:

People who are very strongly against marijuana are almost certainly brainwashed into believing everything their government wants them to believe. It's a fact :)


05:27:45 May 13th 12 - Mr. Thick Rooster:

I'm not against Marijuana. I'm against Gateway Drugs. Marijuana just happens to be in the group known as Gateway Drugs.

It is a well known Fact that people who indulge in Gateway Drugs are more likely to go on to use (and abuse) Harder, more Dangerous Drugs such as Cocaine, Heroin, and Crystal Meth.


I strongly suggest you read this very informative article - http://www.bible.ca/ef/topical-gateway-drugs.htm

Some key excerpts

  • Children who use marijuana are 85 times more likely to use cocaine than non-marijuana users
  • adults who use such drugs are up to 323 times--more likely to use cocaine than those who don't use any gateway drugs


06:22:45 May 13th 12 - Mr. Devi:

There's an old saying that tells one to basically keep their mouth shut, unless they are out to prove they're an idiot. Now educate yourselves with knowledge provided at the click of a button....


The problem here is that correlation isn’t cause. Hell’s Angels motorcycle gang members are probably more 104 times more likely to have ridden a bicycle as a kid than those who don’t become Hell’s Angels, but that doesn’t mean that riding a two-wheeler is a “gateway” to joining a motorcycle gang. It simply means that most people ride bikes and the kind of people who don’t are highly unlikely to ever ride a motorcycle.

Scientists long ago abandoned the idea that marijuana causes users to try other drugs: as far back as 1999, in a report commissioned by Congress to look at the possible dangers of medical marijuana, the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences wrote:

"Patterns in progression of drug use from adolescence to adulthood are strikingly regular. Because it is the most widely used illicit drug, marijuana is predictably the first illicit drug most people encounter. Not surprisingly, most users of other illicit drugs have used marijuana first. In fact, most drug users begin with alcohol and nicotine before marijuana — usually before they are of legal age.

In the sense that marijuana use typically precedes rather than follows initiation of other illicit drug use, it is indeed a “gateway” drug. But because underage smoking and alcohol use typically precede marijuana use, marijuana is not the most common, and is rarely the first, “gateway” to illicit drug use. There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs."

Since then, numerous other studies have failed to support the gateway idea. Every year, the federal government funds two huge surveys on drug use in the population. Over and over they find that the number of people who try marijuana dwarfs that for cocaine or heroin. For example, in 2009, 2.3 million people reported trying pot — compared with 617,000 who tried cocaine and 180,000 who tried heroin.


The fact that marijuana smokers are more likely to use other drugs than non-smokers can be accounted for much more neatly by a  model recently developed by the Rand Institute. Basically, Rand shows that an underlying preference for consciousness alteration happens to be coupled with marijuana being the easiest illegal drug to get.

We have to use Occam's razor when trying to determine causation - there's no need to invoke some mystical "brain change" that leads a minority of pot smokers to progress to other drugs. Just as people who like dark chocolate might want to try white chocolate, or just as art lovers may enjoy both Picasso and Van Gogh, people who are interested in drugs are interested in drugs.

As with everything in life, the true obsessives are a minority. After all, though 34% of the population over 12 reports having tried marijuana, only  1.4% has ever even tried, let alone become addicted to, heroin.


07:15:47 May 13th 12 - Mr. Noid:

The post hoc ergo propter hoc (after this therefore because of this) fallacy is based upon the mistaken notion that simply because one thing happens after another, the first event was a cause of the second event. Post hoc reasoning is the basis for many superstitions and erroneous beliefs.

Be careful who you cite for 'facts'.

The Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia (CASA), Joseph A. Califano, Jr., CASA's president and former HEW secretary.

"He and CASA have been caught numerous times falsifying statistics or simply making them up out of thin air — but their stock in trade is finding survey questions that will yield answers that sound shocking when presented out of context."

Propaganda and Debating Techniques

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-propaganda.html

Humor:

A man on a bus saw another passenger tearing small bits of paper and throwing them out the window.  Being curious he asked the passenger why he was doing it.  The passenger said he was doing it to keep elephants away.  The man pointed out that there were no elephants in the area.  The passenger then smugly said "Works, doesn't it!"


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