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I got a newsfeed on facebook off of the Templars. They're daily spreading news about how muslims are having bad turnouts in the EU. Britain, france, Sweden mostly. I'm curious if anyone on here lives in any of those countries and could give me another perspective of whether it's really as bad as they're saying its' getting or if its just some strong anti-muslim group who's trying to stir up some people into closing the borders before the beatings and territory claiming in cities gets worse. | ||||
live in london , have never actually seen problems in real life , online in media sources occasionally | ||||
Live about 20 miles south, and work in Rotherham. About 3 months ago riot by Muslims trashed the high street. Slovakia gypsies, Muslims and white kids all fighting in schools, 1 white kid got stabbed by a gypsy outside the school gates. Obv there is the grooming scandal that was unearthed in Rotherham, and then pretty much every major city a similar thing was going on. | ||||
AMERIKA!!! | ||||
Would just like to point out though that white british are the largest offenders in every type of crime in this country. Also the rotheram scandal and a few others of similar type where commited by BRITISH BORN people of a different colour and a very small number of economic migrants ergo not refugees. There has not been one sex scandal in the UK involving refugees. | ||||
Refugee = People fleeing wars. | ||||
Torreth has wrongfully used the word refugee here to explain something else. What woody posted is to do with the original post but not to do with refugees. | ||||
Sesughter, he said Muslims in his post, I took it as a Muslim post not refugee, didn't even link refugee to the post. Check the new reports ext from all the grooming scandal, there all Muslim, and we will commit more crimes, being 90% of the population? | ||||
Actually white british is around 80% of the population. And even when searched proportionally white british still commit most of the crime here. The news reports and the police statistics never really seem to tally do they? funny that. If its not blatantly left wing channels like bbc trying to convince you every immigrant is a teddy bear , its right wing media trying to convince you they are all rapists. Neither are true reflections. what they are is humans , and of course some will cause problems and some will not. just like how some british people cause problems and some do not. I do however agree with the comment about english , and british in general (although most migrants come to england ) needing to express there values anymore. The English seem to have an attitude of 'british culture' as opposed to english culture. | ||||
i dont think it helps to bring race into this, there are plenty of white people who have anti english values. jsut look at the ones stationed in the Calais camp as part of No Borders groups. | ||||
The sharia courts thing is actually not new. We have had jewish courts for ages and it is the equivalent to judge judy , they can not make decisions on anything criminal , only in civil matters and both the person who is suing and the person getting sued must agree. ANYONE can set up a civil court in this country | ||||
whether the courts are english law or not is besides the point. the point is that theyre doing it, and arent using english courts or calling on english police. they create a sub-community within the english community and alot of ppl arent happy about it | ||||
Lebanons problem is politic instability and poverty , neither of which are linked to islam. My question is , before the northumbria even became part of england , england allowed jewish laws. So what is the difference with a muslim civil law? It is for FINANCIAL disputes and marital disputes only , and the woman has to agree to abide by the ruling , no one can force her to go to it and she has the right to have it heard in a civil court. So in answer to your question , these are ENGLISH sharia law courts. Emphasis on the ENGLISH because there are alot of parts of sharia they CAN NOT enforce as it goes against ENGLISH LAW. The ENGLISH LAW OF THE LAND is that different groups legally in the country should be allowed to dispute there civil matters amongst themselves. English law of the land also emodies the idea that any british citizen can settle a civil matter between two other citizens if a contract is signed accepting him as the arbitrator(believe that is the word). So Sharia courts in england have to abide by the english law of the land and are english courts. I think the problem is more people being 'scared' of being labelled islamaphobics if they critique the courts that is more of an issue. | ||||
ironically england has BARELY any immigrants compared to most Western and central eu nation but we tend to complain as if we had the most. and interesting fact is the amount of British people migrating over seas is nearly the same as the amount of refugees succesfully coming here. | ||||
youre trying to make an argument of lawfulness when i was talking about culture and integration | ||||
Ah..not so bad as the right wing articles I'm reading then. They're concentrated on France/Calais recently. Thought they have some in Britain who keep track of muslims in their country as well as a few others. I'm under the impression that muslims are moving with the refugees into distant lands to integrate/have a boom in children in foreign countries that would in a future generation cause their population to be large enough in number to have their say in foreign cultures and in so doing, inbed muslim laws into foreign countries. Something similar to this was done when the "black/slaves" of north America decided to mass populate in the past 20 years or so. Now they have such a high populace in America that we can't kick the president out of office no matter what he does wrong. Or we'd have a huge riot/mob problem. There having border problems beyond turkey..which is the key country that they pass through into Europe. They've been migrating for the past year I think throughout Europe. They're supposed to do things the right way and get paperwork for identity purposes etc so they can get work easier but there are those who don't...and cause all those problems that can be caused. The "grooming" scandal isn't even something I recognized by its' name. But the idea of it has been mentioned here and there. But I hear it's been going on in Sweden and other countries as well to certain extents. It's good to hear its barely making itself known compared to how these right wing article writers are making it sound. I'm surprised this thread got so much attention, thanks for the Input =D | ||||
Well, the things are simple. | ||||
I think the idea that blacks purposely have more children , or that muslims purposely have more children to 'outpopulate white people' is some of the stupidest stuff I have ever heard. Especially when Eastern european and poorer euro countries have the same issue with a lack of birth control and high birth rates. It simply comes from a lack of education and different cultural perspectives. I thought that was a well known fact? | ||||
Hatred comes a lot from lack of being educated and understanding opposing perspectives. As long as hatred is a part of the human emotion there won't be any universal peace. I think Sweden has a birth cap for it's citizens. but aye, quite a few EU countries are too poor to really offer a great deal of support for this ideal. Thus why they're trying to invite in a certain number at a time to integrate into their population. The rush of refugees on the other hand are too fearful of being shot for merely listening to music as a teenager for example..to stick around long enough for the EUs integration process to continue. | ||||
hatred also comes from being wronged by someone or a gorup or people. we wouldnt last long as a species if we were unable to respond with hatred to those who are wronging us | ||||
I'm not sure how you think it even plausible that it would... | ||||
I too have seen it bran, we have a lot of vocal radical Muslims in the UK that like to preach on social media. Ardem chaudany, if that's spelled right, is one such deplorable human being that's said about out breeding us. | ||||
University of Sheffield and no issues as far as I know. | ||||
Wow, about 15 miles north of me, where's you digs, near brammal lane? | ||||
how can he live 15miles north of you and not know about the grooming gangs in rotherham or the riots in your town? | ||||
I don't know, I love about 15 miles south from Sheffield and Rotherham, and Rotherham is next to Sheffield, so he should know about it haha | ||||
I'm a student, I live about 15 minutes from our student union. I would know if something happened in Sheffield, but I'm only here as a student, I originally come from Leicestershire. | ||||
well 300 people is hardly a riot , probably why he didnt hear about it lol | ||||
If 300 people is hardly a riot, what is it? 300 people throwing bricks and bottles charging police lines trying to breach them to get through to an EDL March is a ??? | ||||
thats suggesting EVERY SINGLE activist was involved , which they clearly wasn't. I don't know what it was but , not a riot i assure you lol | ||||
thats suggesting EVERY SINGLE activist was involved , which they clearly wasn't. I don't know what it was but , not a riot i assure you lol | ||||
A disturbance of the peace maybe | ||||
Also that was UAF (a British group) vs EDL ( A british group). It was ABOUT Muslims but it was also a largely british riot. | ||||
i much prefer 'The Fugees' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIXyKmElvv8 | ||||
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