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How far ahead of lew was Smith
10:03:27 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Andersen:

It felt like it was coming down to the wire because he got booted out of Ret and lost 400k land to lewatha+others, but....on fantasia Agent Smith was the second most powerful kingdom, and I wasn't on fantasia, so that means he was stronger than all of fate combined on fant? Also, he had 84 sciences levels, which is triple what anyone else had. He started getting experience by attacking me guardtower towns about a week after lewatha started, and yet lewatha had barely any science at the end. That means that Agent Smith was getting all the finds near the end....literally all of them... All he had was 100-125k advents with 20 exp though. Is that enough to deserve practically all the finds? Why didn't any other halfings get advents with exp? It was lewatha's idea for Agent smith to attack a friend with guardtowers so I assume that's how she got her exp too...

I don't have exact calcs on me  but I'm pretty sure that Agent Smiths number of advents was roughly 2.75 million. Are they so overvalued that those alone make him worth more points than fate? That's pretty wild. Anyone know what an advent is actually worth in comparison to other units/buildings?

10:11:17 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Rambutan:

      You're wall of text is kind of painful...   but let me sum things up:

        Halfers science=  mega-abusable
     halflings in general= enormous whores
                       Smith=  the biggest whore

               Very simple

10:16:38 Mar 29th 09 - Duke Slade:

Screw you Halfers arnt whores

The people that play them are

10:19:13 Mar 29th 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

an advent is worth 5 points, I whored mostly slingers because they, in comparison, give more points than advents/gold.

sciences are worth hardly any points, if any points at all.

10:20:41 Mar 29th 09 - Prince Mielo:

didn't you play the halfling race ... slade?

10:22:55 Mar 29th 09 - Duke Slade:

oooooo thats funny

And yes i do play Halfer

10:36:34 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Andersen:

How many points are slingers each?

10:38:16 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Rambutan:

   ok fine,    EDITED FOR SLADE:

   Most halfers, because of their abusable nature=  Whores  

    and I think you are underestimating the value of science

10:40:12 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Andersen:

My last name rhymes with whore.


I'm not kidding, it really does. Hoar

10:41:12 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Rambutan:

    Wow, is your first name Hugh? 

    Hugh Hoar        -that's hilarious  XD

11:31:29 Mar 29th 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

2 points per slinger.

0,2 or 0,25 per farmer, I'm not sure..

11:33:58 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Cobra:

It doesnt matter how far he was ahead

He won the era by Abusing, but still he won the era
Lew was more deserving though

11:37:30 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Cbr:

"Anyone know what an advent is actually worth in comparison to other units/buildings?"

Yes, I do.

I also know how much science is worth, which isn't much, 8 or 80 sci levels means basically nothing.

11:38:33 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Cobra:

Lol at the

' Yes, I do'

11:44:10 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Cbr:


11:57:00 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Iridium:

Mr. Cbr


3/29/2009 10:37:30 AM
Yes, I do.

Care to elaborate on that... Because right now your like the worlds worst quiz contestant...

"For a million pounds, do you know the capital of Chile?"

"I do!"

Anyway, heard it was ~5? Never bothered to test myself...

12:00:37 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Cbr:

"Care to elaborate on that..."

I said I know it, I didn't say I'm going to tell what it is.

14:56:14 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

It doesnt matter how far he was ahead

He won the era by Abusing, but still he won the era
Lew was more deserving though

Explain why pleez :P Smith may have been a total whore doing what he did but at least he put the effort forwards. Lew just farmed all era. I think Gladiatorul or somebody else actually warlike deserves the win....

14:57:28 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Bran:

trying to say landdroppers should get era win?

14:59:59 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Trying to say farmers should get the era win instead?

Glad put everything into his armies and attacked all era long. Lew and Smith put everything into there mines and farmed all era long. I definitely think there is more work involved in Gladiator's play style than in Lew and Smith's style.

15:01:17 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Bran:

no, i wanted era win to go to retribution, since no player deserved era win, they all farmed, land dropped, fed or simply didnt stand out

15:02:50 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Land dropping has been part of the game for a long time :S If you don't want it to happen to your mines, defend them.

15:03:52 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Bran:

if it was supposed to have been there zeta wouldnt have just removed it. basically it was a bug all along and he just didnt have time to fix it before

15:40:55 Mar 29th 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

Mr. Ruby Knight


3/29/2009 3:02:50 PMLand dropping has been part of the game for a long time :S If you don't want it to happen to your mines, defend them.

wow... now there's a questionable remark...

and atleast I didn't feed to get the era win, Ruby Knight.

17:56:28 Mar 29th 09 - Sir Prised:

No, you just farmed. at least Smith played VU and not virtual farm.

17:58:47 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Bran:

smith DID farm exactly the same as lew.. until he teamed up with anderson and townswapped/landropped etc...

21:30:58 Mar 29th 09 - Duke Random:

i think i deserved to win the era, i didnt whore more than a halfer had too and i fought all era long on the back foot against land droppers and well established vet kd's


therefore, era of random is in order :D

22:20:13 Mar 29th 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

/me searches the logs where random says that he's going to farm all era and make 200M farmers, put em in a blocker and get em to fantasia on the last tick.

23:35:28 Mar 29th 09 - Mr. Andersen:

Agent Smith and myself actually city swapped and trained/build a crapload 2 other times in the era. No one noticed though ;-)

02:57:40 Mar 30th 09 - Mr. Orcinus Orca:

im not here to comment about who deserved to win or not cos thats over n done with but DO NOT COMPARE lew to smith

he didnt do a single ounce of fighting or anythin of any use to any body in retribution as far as i can remember he just farmed n swapped towns.

on the otherhand lew was the diplomat 4 our kd which means she played an improtant role in the era win. farmin or trainin alone dnt win eras for a kd its the leadership that makes the farmin n trainin puropseful lew was damn gd at givin us purposefull instructions. also lew played a vital role in our 1st war agianst rebirth. without her the kd wouldnt have won their 1st war or the era.

02:59:25 Mar 30th 09 - Mr. Orcinus Orca:

oh and she fought well with the rest of us against revelation.............and she saved our core when armies snuck in from the nirvana!

03:29:51 Mar 30th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

I won't compare Lew to Smith-.- But I still say someone other than either of them deserves the win.

Last era for example, Kobusken was a deserving winner. He could have been more offensive, but he came back from early losses in the era to kick Heaven's ass with his huge armies and helped Godlike *beep*s with a whole lot more than "leadership". Leadership is crucial for a kingdom but it shouldn't mean anything in the high scores.

03:56:18 Mar 30th 09 - Demonslayer Scientist:

<3 Kobu :p

14:08:25 Mar 30th 09 - Mr. Tomatoe:

I thought town swapping was considered cheating?

and the whole process of halfers making XP for their Advents by attacking a "friendly" halfers city (and the other halfer doing the same) is retarded abusive.

build walls and set up a small city large enoough to defend against the army, have army attack with intention to lose, gaining XP, farming up XP and then merging in Advents and sending them out. 

stop cheating, it's just stupid.

18:03:37 Mar 30th 09 - Mr. Einskaldir:

agent smith cheated? can we have a poll to decide this? if you think he cheateted type yes if note vote no


19:07:43 Mar 30th 09 - Mr. Daniely:


19:13:34 Mar 30th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Sepelchure Grail:


19:54:11 Mar 30th 09 - Lady Quiet Tone:

no, hes hawt

20:18:17 Mar 30th 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

it's obvious he cheated, otherwise zeta wouldn't have fixed it this era. It's stupid if you deny townfeeding isn't cheating because it very clearly is.

21:35:04 Mar 30th 09 - Mr. Josef:

ZeTa fixes and improvements lots of things, saying that because ZeTA changed it it was cheating is inane.

It wasn't cheating when you said you don't want to kick Smith because it would make you look desperate to win and it might give FATE the chance to pass RET? So as long as RET would win, it wasn't cheating?

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