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|I broke a CF|
|14:05:55 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Random:|
Ok, so here is the thing.
That there is a msg with Dolittle confirming that they couldn't open the blockers.... this MSG was two days before the top blocker was taken.
As seen in this screenshot, Tarvalon is blocking off Rhaella, my kingdom mates armoury for a fair while
Naturally I PM'ed the crazy leadership about it, obviously in a BAD mood over this seeing as this happens as soon as we're about to attack.
useful leadership team we have here. I have a problem and he says that he's going to do a runner. hmm how am I supposed to sort this out?
So naturally Ryan msg's me next:
He says, I will not break the CF etc etc. but then instead of trying to get his second city as compensation he decides to move his army towards me.
hmm now, why would he move from white tower with his 500k army that was going supposed to be getting his 'recompensation' from white tower which he was prepping on in the pic above, down to my city of Larenthia WITHOUT taking the city.
seems like a hostile action to me....
Pretty much in summary,
1) Crazy, cuts my kingdoms reinforcments off from me in an attack.
2) They refuse to unblock the core from me upon request, extreme low play.
3) They can't come to a diplomatic solution in any way what soever. It all ends in 'we're going to keep em closed, nothing you can do about it'
4) They decide to move a 200k 'archie' army upon me.... which I 98%'ed.... which leaves me thinking.... maybe he has really low magic science? or just talking smack to scare me?
5) They then claim that they're 'just moving past' another load of BS.
So what do you think, I'm pretty sure that I had good grounds to break this CF. nuf said.
|14:09:03 Oct 13th 09 - Wolflord Karac:|
PHI is ;)
|14:19:38 Oct 13th 09 - Chancellor Scrooge Mcduck:|
Mate, all I can say is - You were warned :)
|14:26:46 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Augh:|
Random. You have way too much patience.
|14:39:07 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Crissxcross:|
crazy seems to be making many friends this week.
|14:53:25 Oct 13th 09 - Psycho Puff Daddy Choo Choo:|
those blockers were held by demons who attacked us and declared war. you are pissed at us takin blockers held by a kingdom who attacked us first and we were fighting. and Chancelor mcDuck WTF do you know about anything?
|14:56:27 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Nukem:|
OMFG... Crazy using cheap tactics... i never thought i would see the day :O ;)
|15:01:04 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Crissxcross:|
well psycho at least the declared war to you, your kingdom is only attacking without declaring, so you have not to wonder having bad reputation here.
|15:06:22 Oct 13th 09 - Chancellor Scrooge Mcduck:|
I know that Crazy has a history of using underhanded tactics against people they have relations with :)
|15:18:27 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Random:|
hmm all the blocker did?
To prove that Farimer is Oblivion....
Now the blocker in question. looks to me like it was sure a demons blocker, especially since they're napped and all, unless your suggesting that they're in on the blocker swapping too?
|15:41:22 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Penguinus Prime:|
yo we are allied and i didnt even moan to you guys that you should war crazy. so now its a great time to start it
|16:13:01 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Hanky Panky:|
Random you are a bad bad man <3
i lol'd at that, he has...
i'd have just waited for them to make the thread and told them to shut up moaning and go play with their willies
|16:17:41 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Random:|
I did cxc ;)
|16:28:38 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Overcome:|
its really week that you all judge the whole KD for a misstake that was made by a few players. i know many honorable players in Crazy. dont take it out on them. take it up with those involved.
|16:50:10 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:|
Lol, you got owned. Stop whining, just break the nap and take the core.
|17:23:28 Oct 13th 09 - Prince Sprout:|
CFs are made to be broken. Both Pulse and Crazy have admitted to
warring after fate Falls just looks to be going down a bit early is all.
|17:32:28 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Random:|
|17:39:04 Oct 13th 09 - Psycho Puff Daddy Choo Choo:|
Well said overcome.
|17:44:31 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:|
Well, they know they are playing with fire when pulling a stunt like that. No sain person would have tolerated it. It is hilariously funny though, and show why all the cross war naps are gimptarded.
|17:48:36 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Black Heart:|
I read Random's story like everyone and since I am the training vice I have no call on Politics
Name: No Pulse
Created: 9/5/2009 1:00:34 PM
Leader: Mr. Hanky Panky
1) CF between Insane Asylum and No Pulse until both kingdoms agree that Foundation is dead.
2) Both kingdoms agree that when it is decided Foundation (Fate) is dead the war between No Pulse and Insane Asylum will start 72 hours later. No sooner.
3) Each others home world (Mantrax and Arma) and Valhalla are zones where we can not attack each other once we do start fighting.
4) The war will be on Fantasia between No Pulse and Insane Aslyum. If any other worlds will be included it will be arranged before the war starts after Fate has been deemed dead by both kingdoms.
5) No MAP can be called in by either side to assist in the war. Both sides currently have no MAPs
Note: The CF terms between No Pulse and Crazy Does Not include any term about opening or closing or controling any blockers. Its only a CF and not a NAP.
As a comment about politics:
Meanwhile this only leaves one conclusion, No Pulse wanted to make sure a surprise assault is on their side, in order to secure their victory not caring for any of their previous agreements.
|17:53:16 Oct 13th 09 - Psycho Puff Daddy Choo Choo:|
random you need glasses. that army moving is kingdom of hearts. and dolittle took that blocker from demons. you need to go take some meds.
|18:01:04 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
Wow. nice use of supposed evidence for your dishonourable actiions.
1- I moved away from White tower because of your whining, I decided NOT to take the city and removed my troops from tar valon, you will notice that when you attacked my troops they were ON THE MOVE. I had been in contact with Tengo and had let him know what I was doing. I am in starta and was reinforcing them there. you attacked me without any sort of warning which from what I hear is rather typical of No pulse. instead of saying "hey I lost my cool, sorry I will compensate you" you now try to justify breaking your word. if you were honourable you would simply admit you were wrong and move on.
as for us TAKING BLOCKERS JUST TO SPITE YOU? westblockz was taken from pieguy of demons a week and a half before you even showed up there as were the two cities that Dolittle took, feel free to ask him. here is the funniest part of you infering that Crazy was acting dishonourably....
because of your whining I decided to give away westblocks to Theophilius of LD that way you could stop whining about Crazy having so many supposed key blockers. I was waiting for my last troops there to cook. I moved my troops out of Tarvalon and headed south.
where exactly are our actions showing as dishonourable? im giving away a city just to placate you and somehow im the bad guy? Oblivion has been far more honourable in their dealings with us.
the paranoia shown by many supposedly honourable players in this game is amusing. You think everything is all about your kingdom.
adam, you can go fist yourself, we have always been honourable in our dealings yet you come on here mouthing off about Crazy pretty much constantly. you were in bunnies when your leadership threatened Crazy, they let you know that attacking a Map is gonna mean disolving your nap yet you attacked anyway. then you attacked Crazy who obviously werent going to break the nap and they hadnt prepared (as evidenced by you guys easily taking that entire side of their core) the proof is in the pudding, if they had been planning to screw you they would have had armies ready, the fact that they did not shows that you are full of crap.
|18:02:31 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
and btw after reading Randoms bullshit post.
1- we took all of those blockers weeks ago, I took tar valon day before yesterday. Randoms timeline is completely wrong.
|18:04:51 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
|18:05:55 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:|
See Kai. if you had been smart you would have waited for the last 3 posts in this thread to start a new thread after breaking the CF. then you could have posted the screenshot of yours. Now instead you just got owned and have to argue with them :-P
|18:16:38 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
LOL again the proof is in the pudding.
It will be tough for No pulse to say they werent just looking for an excuse to war Crazy. one thing that is somewhat amusing is that instead of taking tar valon (the blocker that supposedly started this) they went west and attacked several crazy cities. not exactly the actions of an alliance that reluctantly broke a cease fire. this is exactly the same as when Pimple decided to attack allies based on some weak crap about being attacked with plague.
Bottom line Random acted dishonourably by breaking a ceasefire.
|18:21:12 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:|
you need a war anyways. so no need for you to complain about it :-)
|18:48:40 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Dead Oralive:|
No we dont really want a war we just dont like people getting in the way of our wars and well you got in the way of our warring and are gonna pay for it.
|20:03:09 Oct 13th 09 - Chancellor Scrooge Mcduck:|
Ryan, your post jsut shows your ignorance as to what went on that era :) My comments are based on several eras of actions by Crazy, not just the Bunnies related incidents. I'm not going to re-hash it, the info is out there for the people with half a clue (which obviously is not you), if they wanted to find it :)
|20:03:40 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Penguinus Prime:|
i broke muh penis ;(
|20:16:23 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Gingerbread Man:|
You broke your cookie finder?? :'( Why Random?? WHY???
|20:19:18 Oct 13th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
here is something rather funny.
Duke random says he has no idea why I was marching MY REINFORCEMENT ARMY SOUTH. only in that message it sort of pretty much says why I was. btw that army was mostly mages and only 70k archies it was a reinforcement army.
Its rather telling that you attack someone you are ceasefired with and then brag about it, I assume you are probably about 14 years old that would explain why you lack so completely in honour and are acting like a child. You whine that we were not using politics but your idea of politics is to threaten and then act like a dick when you dont get your way. Obviously if i could have I would have opened the gates, your kingdom is more powerful than Oblivion but people with honour keep their word even when its not easy. people who act like power mad children are not honourable.
you have on way to salvage any sort of honour from this debacle, to give back the cities you took, pay compensation for the actions you took and apologise. we both know you wont. and in the future anyone entering into an agreement with your kingdom will know you are not to be trusted.
This is the message that YOU posted it pretty much says it all. we were willing to open all of our gates ina few days and we were not doing anything shady. I was moving south AS I CLEARLY STATED I WAS GOING TO. lol anyway keep on justifying your dishonourable actions im sure you will have lots of support form the other idiots who think that honour is something you can purchase for cheap.
Crazy has littel interest on valhalla you will notice we have LIMITED TARGETS and are ALL ON OUR WAY SOUTH, this makes its faster and easier. Not everything is done to screw over another kingdom. I am also in negotiations with another kingdom here to join us as we need more armies to attack on Fant. this would not be done to screw you guys over but to help with the attack on fant. if they do join us we hope you will cease attacking them if we open ALL OF OUR GATES on valhalla to facilitate you moving armies easily to Fant.
Im done talking about this on here, the facts are simple but all you will do is continue to whine and justify that your actions were above board when they clearly were not. interesting how tar valon was soooo important yet you left it and attacked west on undefended Crazy cities that were undefended because we trusted YOUR WORD.
|20:36:54 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Samual:|
I notice the 2 strongest kingdoms of this era were/are NAPd, lol big kingdoms think there tough for wiping out the smaller ones, apart from were REV sand PHI went to war with SOL, FATE and GOTF and rebirth went to war with ROC (both this era)(there may be other big kd vs big kd wars, but there the only ones i know of)
|20:48:15 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:|
only children guess that someone is younger than themself :-P
|20:49:54 Oct 13th 09 - Dark Prince Stirlin:|
TOO LONG.....DID NOT READ
|20:54:55 Oct 13th 09 - Wolflord Karac:|
^^ same here, all i know is... RANDOM IS RIGHT!
|21:17:12 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Penguinus Prime:|
all i know Random is still a failure. Megan fox is officialy mine
|21:23:05 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Dolittle:|
as 2 of the so called blocker are mine the 1 i refused to open the other is open and have not closed so you have 2 routes into their core the 1 i am not sure or if both actually block as i took 1 from an enemy. and 1 i built as an armoury to be closer to the fight and replenish my armies. if anyone is whinning and crying its no pulse .
|21:26:25 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Edd:|
Whoa that's lame i for one will not open blocker's for anyone unless i'm really nice and it makes me even angrier when people threathen me so i give my support to Crazy.
|21:34:36 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Ancient Basio:|
i dont really know what is behind all this talking and replies from crazy ... dont even bother ..
|21:55:09 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Penguinus Prime:|
5) No MAP can be called in by either side to assist in the war. Both sides currently have no MAPs
No pulse tards have MAP with BBMMFB. So to back them up they are warring you cause of us .. thats all :) we are there MAP and MAP is way more important than CF and lets say you dont need to honor CF if kd is retarded so buh buh bye :) long time ago there was Boom vs Crazy , you got in all the nubs you could to fight vs us
|21:55:42 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Penguinus Prime:|
|21:56:44 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:|
I blame Ping
|22:09:23 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Dolittle:|
ohhhh thx for that peng so then the blockers was just an excuse to try and justify themselves as they needed to war us because they mpp'ed you guys
|22:14:46 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Gingerbread Man:|
There's a funny word we like to use called sarcasm.
|22:33:46 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Ancient Basio:|
3) Each others home world (Mantrax and Arma) and Valhalla are zones
where we can not attack each other once we do start fighting.
|22:37:56 Oct 13th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:|
You are blindingly obviously violating the retard clause. Each nap has an unspoken retard clause. allow me to read it up for you
|22:41:48 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Yellow Bean:|
Though it does not break code
|22:54:05 Oct 13th 09 - Warlord Harkaa:|
If Random was FOS he would not have so much evidence to back him up - where CRAZY cries about CF etc but then a member goes and declares war?
Just call Random - its started now but I am ready to finish it.
|23:25:56 Oct 13th 09 - Mr. Teirdel:|
Well atm i can say this is a situation where there are no winners or loser. Random wanted to cooperate and couldnt get what he needed so he did what was neccesary. I support his decision i wouldve done the same only alot sooner.
However i also understand insane's point, they had a nap and they had to honor it. Now whether they had taken those with ill intentions or not is beyond me. However like Sir Overcome said, do not base a kingdoms actions on a certain individual if they are willing to punish said individual. However if not then you are in the right due to the fact that a kingdom is a joint collaboration where everyone works and supports each other. This includes responsbilites.
On a late note Newbie Warlords had no such problems with insane at all. In fact they were very cooperative however i can also say oblivion have been decent to us as well.
Note *: i think i mispelled responebilites or did i just now?
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