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Kev and Max and pointbreak
19:15:16 Jul 31st 10 - Duke Kathandarion The Pure Blooded:

After my kingdom pure blood landed , we entered a war with dendarii (on zetamania). there is some dispute about who started this war , it was my kingdom , we started it because from dendariis actions it was clear they planned to attack us. 

Honest John landed after us , in a position that meant dendarii could not reach them without killing my kingdom first, They used this position , DESPITE signing an MAP with us that they would attack dendarii , to sit behind us and farm. they won a grand spanking TWO battles against dendarii in the entire era, until dendarii reached there core and they were forced to actually fight. At this point they realized how weak they was and began recruiting members from my kingdom to help them stay alive. 

After ALL of this i still allowed them to survive , and then a situation with dendarii arose. a member of theirs joined my kingdom , helping us to kill dendarii. This is the facts behind the entire situation....Enjoy.
18:59:05 Jul 31st 10 - Duke Kathandarion The Pure Blooded:

Is this what passes for honor in honest john , our MAP kingdom.

Curro Jimnez
12:16:14 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

Curro left Pureblood so does that mean we can attack him now? I could start to build up an army in Starter to try to attack his little core.

13:46:10 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. Pointbreak The Pureblooded:

I would before he starts attacking us I did get messaged to take some cities from him by Kath.

14:11:46 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

Okay, I'm building up in starter and I have a scout en route to his cities to spy on them. I don't know how long it will take me to get a good enough army to take him down or how built up he is.

14:15:09 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

And I just sent transfer over with 7600 zerks to Starter to pick up whatever troops are made when it gets there but it will be 26 ticks to get to starter. I'm going to just start sending troops from Stewie to Starter. I think the 50k Zerks in Creepin should be able to hold off any army on the map. =)

His city Pilot is over Starter on the HoH but I have more in training and have the other army on the way so that will be my first big mission. I think that if I can get past Pilot I should be able to take the core.

15:33:43 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. War Being:

Please No attacking Curro he told me Kath Betrayed him thats His Reason behind leaving,

15:48:54 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

Aw man, I was just getting in the full swing of attacking. Alright I'll hold off.

18:04:59 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. Honest John:

Why would you attack him?  If anything ...... oh, nvm..... I am too tired for all of this right now.

18:43:25 Jul 29th 10 - Ms. Ruler of Canines:

Well then what is the purpose of the MAP?

18:54:43 Jul 29th 10 - Sir Musquito:

We do not have a MAP with any. Not any that I know of. Not even a NAP.

But the orders are so as HJ wrote: No attacks on Jimnez unless approved by HJ (or me in case "something" blows up and HJ isn't present).

18:56:35 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. War Being:

There was a Map put in Place between Point and HonestJohn.

19:03:22 Jul 29th 10 - Sir Musquito:

We need a confirmation on that (HJ....... please) - not that we should attack PureBlood but more to be sure if we have an official or an unofficial deal.

20:02:51 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. Honest John:

Incredibly I did agree to something called a MAP with Kath (yeah, who ever tells him everything I write run and tell). The drugs must have been good that day.  Here it is, let me point out that there is no term for members that leave a KD.  Max can handle this how ever he sees fit  :)

You (7/7/2010 4:15:18 PM)

We support each other against Dendaii.

we stick to our own areas and if blocks are needed to be opened it must be granted by leader or vice.

Eits can be requested by both Kingdoms.

Magic can be used to help each other out wether ~(ROF) or (Freeze).

I, Honest John of the Honest John Kingdom agree to these terms with the Kingdom of Pureblood.

I will let Dryness know you said hello :)

20:14:08 Jul 29th 10 - Mr. Honest John:

Actually, I signed that because I was dealing with Pointbreak whom I trust and respect.... it was not the drugs.

22:07:21 Jul 29th 10 - Ms. Ruler of Canines:

But even though you signed it with pointbreak, you included the word Kingdom of Pureblood. That MAP was entitled to Pure Blood so why ruin it for some. If you have one bad apple out of eight, you have to throw them all away because of that one apple? What have the others done to you?

01:30:44 Jul 30th 10 - Master Orrises The Cutthroat:

good enough.

01:54:51 Jul 30th 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

Okay, well apologies for writing this thread lol. It look from my point of view that he fell out of Pureblood with bad standing and because they are our "ally/map partner/buddies" I figured that he thought of us as an enemy along side with Pureblood. Seeing as he was #1 on the map I figured they could use our help. 

Anyways, I think the authorities of the kingdom have made it clear that we should not attack him and this thread should be ended. 

Once again, sorry for creating the confusion. I'll shut up now and go back to being a noob. =P 

10:02:00 Jul 30th 10 - Master Orrises The Cutthroat:

i was responding to the nap with him not pb's comment btw

10:44:06 Jul 30th 10 - Ms. Ruler of Canines:

He might attack us. I mean he has enough resources to do so. Look at the map. There is so many of his cities. He probably has an income of 5 mill. He could just attack but then again I heard he was an ex DMC so idk.

11:18:04 Jul 30th 10 - Sir Musquito:

IF Jimnez attack us, then we have to fight him. Of course. But do not provoke him.

As I see it, the big war have splitted into two smaller.

    * Jimnez vs. Kath and rest of Pure Blood
    * Dendarii vs. HJ.

Let's see what the next day or two brings.........

12:40:27 Jul 30th 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

[11:39] #: # Mr. Curro Jimnez, not a member of any kingdom has won 160 battles (91%) and captured 140 cities. He has 109 cities with a total of around 1,897,000 buildings.

[11:39] #: # Mr. Lando Griffin, member of Honest John has won 3 battles (50%) and captured 7 cities. He has 15 cities with a total of around 385,000 buildings.

And I have an income around 2m. Think what his income looks like.
My guess is he could have close to 10m before army upkeep.

12:50:52 Jul 30th 10 - Sir Musquito:

Sure. It's impressing.

I only have 1.1 mill after mil-upkeep.

19:52:56 Jul 30th 10 - Mr. Honest John:


19:54:38 Jul 30th 10 - Mr. Honest John:

Oh, and my real reason for not wanting to attack him is I would like to recruit him... remember, we are here to recruit and practice... I am not saying we should not attack him if it comes down to it, just that there may be a better avenue.

20:08:06 Jul 30th 10 - Mr. Tahnal:

Haha what if we recruit him and then he sees this forum? That would be funny I think =). 

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19:07:32 Jul 31st 10 - Duke Kathandarion The Pure Blooded: (Edit post)

And it was pointbreak / war being (yes he is multi-ing , it was him passing us info on Honest John this ENTIRE ERA , and yet honest john still trusted him so much) who agreed to have gulcasa switch sides , due to gulcasa's allegiance to point , as he was the leader of MYTH , gulcasas former kingdom. I was not even Notified of any of this until i pm'd Jango fett about why he was not attaacking gulcasa's undefended mines and was told , at this point my kingdom was winning , but i knew we could not last . I was faced with two choices , Let us die and then let gulcasa die with us for his betrayal for turning him in , OR allow him to help us , and shutup all the people who said my kingdom could not win. I chose to let him help us. these are the messages between Pointbreak and Gulcasa that i know of.

You (7/5/2010 6:41:09 PM)
Sir Pointbreak, I am your loyal Soldier of Myth, Apparently, i spawned in the enemies guild. I can provide intel, and a sneak assault, when i'm ready. I do not have any allegiances with Dendarii, When i'm ready, i will invade all their mining cities, then it would be the right time to attack. So i wish you guys to survive till that occurs. Please keep this confidential among the viceroys. 

If you don't wish me to serve you in this way, i'll kindly oblige, and serve the kingdom of Dendarii. 

Yours Sincerely
Gulcasa Syaxe VI
Mr. Pointbreak The Pureblooded (7/6/2010 4:17:02 AM)GOODBAD
sounds good Mate keep me Informed when you have enough troops you can even retag.

You (7/7/2010 10:38:29 PM)
Maniac Wolfenstien is planning an assault on Gerbilious, He is making a strong army in Harro, near Gerbilious approximately 38 ticks near Gerbilious cities and blockers. Tell Gerbilious to start making an army and strength his northern blocker immediately.

Your Sincerely
Gulcasa Syaxe VI
Mr. Pointbreak The Pureblooded (7/9/2010 7:10:18 AM)GOODBAD
How you getting on with armies mate?
You (7/9/2010 9:38:26 PM)
My OOP is nearly gone, but i'm planning to build a armory in each core and i'm going to surprise attack them in each core, but first i need all their armies deployed..they don't suspect a spy in their kingdom, when i get the right income, i'll be able to hold them off and focus their attention on me, i still need some time before creating my armies.My goal is 100k soldiers each core. there are 3 cores, but i'll be able to do it.
Mr. Pointbreak The Pureblooded (7/10/2010 7:23:44 AM)GOODBAD
sounds Good,

1 Question did Dendarii ask you to join or did you apply?
You (7/10/2010 9:00:38 AM)
>_> To be honest, i thought i was going to land in Starta, and i just happened to spawn in Dendarii, probably because they accept newcomers...but i really thought i would land in Starta..kinda shocked i ended up in Zet, fighting my own kingdom.
Mr. Pointbreak The Pureblooded (7/10/2010 10:18:56 AM)GOODBAD
lol happen once you stay loyal when the time comes mate thats what counts.
You (7/11/2010 9:24:32 AM)
Though, i cannot send the picture of Dendari, i can show you my situation.
I will offer you my account so you can trust me, and you can see our enemies plan.

User, Syaxe, Pass, shadowheart

Yours Sincerely
Gulcasa Syaxe

P.S Don't do anything drastic on the account, and it's okay, this is only a game, i don't really care about the consequences. Just do what you need to do, and report to the rest of the Kingdom with this info. 

Mr. Pointbreak The Pureblooded (7/12/2010 9:48:57 AM)GOODBAD
Ill log in Tommorrow much appreciated mate.


Mr. Pointbreak The Pureblooded (7/12/2010 9:50:59 AM)GOODBAD
build this block up so you can destroy there core from the Inside.
You (7/20/2010 4:36:48 PM)
As you know, i'm ready to make an assault, so tell me the time, and i'll do it. But it would help to be re-ensured that my assault has back up. Tell the whole entire kingdom of the plan okay? Set the time, so we can be sync through our assault.

Yours Sincerely
Gulcasa Syaxe VI
Mr. Pointbreak The Pureblooded (7/21/2010 1:42:47 AM)GOODBAD
ill be intouch

These are messages that gulcasa pm'd me when i asked him who it was who had told him he should join us and help us , as i was kept oblivious , (All jango would tell me was it was a vice , but at the time we have 7 viceroys).

Also to add to the lists of 'honorable players' who havent been playing to honorable. this is a full list of players multying that im aware of this era.

Jango Fett
Curro Jimnez 

If you want evidence i can send you the pure blood official Skype chat , where it was discussed MULTIPLE times , there wars on starta and nirvana. Jango has even gone as far as having THREE accounts , one  on starta and one on nirvana. 

now FUCK OFF and stop PM'ng me about this shit.

19:11:02 Jul 31st 10 - Duke Kathandarion The Pure Blooded: (Edit post)

P.s for those unaware , Musqito or whatever is Max from RoC and Honest John is Kev from RoC. the 'honorable kingdom'. 

when im on my main computer ill send you there forum where they CLEARLY discuss attacking and killing pureblood , despite us being MAP'd against dendarii. 

I admit fully that i messaged dendarii to allow us peace so we could attack Honest John , a kingdom who had been ACTIVELY trying to snatch our members and who had been trying to find loopholes in a MAP we had with them. i find it ironic that there once vice max , attempted to pretend we did not even have a MAP on his OWN forums , clearly showing they attempted to hide the info from there members and attack us , there is even a suggestion by one of there members to recruit curro. 

Honest John has , in an attempt to pretend he is inactive , ignored my messages , but he has been active on the forums....

19:38:01 Jul 31st 10 - Mr. Arthur Zonds Fav:

OH MY GOD.  And I thought that the Zet thread was long.

21:43:27 Jul 31st 10 - Mr. Vuggy The Annoying Bastard:

Too bad nobody cares about what you have to say.

23:18:41 Jul 31st 10 - Duke Some Fcked Dude:

i CBA reading it halfway down so i thought i would read a mile long page about the annunaki ^_^

23:56:02 Jul 31st 10 - Mr. Admirable:

"After ALL of this i still allowed them to survive "

Kath. The determiner of fates.

00:32:05 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Sprout:

16:18:41 Jul 31st 10 - Duke Some Fcked Dude:

i CBA reading it halfway down so i thought i would read a mile long page about the annunaki ^_^

 Did U learn anything ?

00:33:57 Aug 1st 10 - Duke Some Fcked Dude:

yes it was realy interesting actually ^_^

and believe me it was LOOOOONNNNGGGGG mann!!!
but i read it all :D

01:00:22 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Samual:

I have to admit I read all of what Kath posted and support Kath, though at the end of the day having peoples support can not change what is happening in-game due to the fact worlds aren't connected any more. If you e-mail Zeta and give him the list of multi's you can confirm he will block them, more than likely. 

About dishonesty, there isn't a lot you can do about that. The reason for this is as you have seen pretty much every era there are dishonest players and/or traitors and there isn't a rule against this. Also you can't message Zeta as he doesn't deal with in-game issues between players unless it is bullying or racism (etc) because it would just take up to much time as many people complain about minor issues. 

Finally about reputations it is up to individual people to make up there minds about whether or not these people are still classed as good honest players or if they are not.

EDIT: I just read over what I read and realised it is a rather intellectual peace making moment, so yeah if you want to just make some chill out topics rather than topics like this that would be pretty awesome = D

01:18:17 Aug 1st 10 - Duke Kathandarion The Pure Blooded:

Thanks samual , atleast some people can see past the fact that the others in the arguement are seen as more honorable then me and actually look at the facts. 

And Admirable , yes i did ALLOW them to live , as troop wise at the time we had roughly 6-7 times there strength , and many of our members wanted to kill them as they had farmed up large mines that were undefended

01:20:30 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Jango Fett:

I just realized that I can compare the whole thing about Gulcasa leaving to another game just like this. Dynasty Warriors and the Battle at Chi Bi where Cao Cao and his naval fleet were fighting the Wu and Shu alliance. Shu(MYTH and Pure Blood) had a general named Pang Tong(Gulcasa) who joined Wei(DMC) in order to spy on them but at the same time, gain Cao Cao's(Jondrus) trust. Wu(Honest John), in this case, did fight but had a strategy involving burning Cao Cao's(Jondrus) fleet. I cant thing of any event during this era like that one but anyways back to the story. When the battle commenced, Pang Tong(Gulcasa) was feeding info to the main general Sun Jian(Pointbreak) and Liu Bei(Kath though I am more of a Liu Bei person myself lol). When enough info and troops were taken, Pang Tong(Gulcasa) left the Wei(DMC) for the Wu/Shu alliance thus Cao Cao(Jondrus) was PO. He swore one day this would happen to the Shu(Pure) or Wu(Honest John). It happened when Guan Yu(Curro) so happened to leave Shu(Pure) for Wei(DMC).

The End lol

02:02:46 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Vuggy The Annoying Bastard:

I didn't read any of it, and I stand by my statement.

02:13:44 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Jango Fett:

Kaths statement or my story? The story is based on true a game lol

02:23:07 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

As far as any "dishonorable" actions taken by HJ are concerned, I don't really understand what you're saying happened because I got confused with the long post and with the names. However, just from what you stated in the post about what Pureblood did, I wouldn't be standing all high and mighty. Spying in other kingdoms that you have a MAP with and whatever that deal was with the person you had in Dendarii, I wouldn't be calling Pureblood the purest kingdom either. 

02:36:41 Aug 1st 10 - Duke Kathandarion The Pure Blooded:

point was the one who spied on your KD , and when i found out about it i put a stop to it , he then for 'other reasons' left within 4 ticks of me demoting him for this. 

The deal brokered with gulcasa was made by point , due to the fact i am FRIENDS with gulcasa however i allowed him to join us anyway.

And HJ are our MAP partners , war being and point together have close to 300K troops in the area nearby to where curro is attacking me personally , HJ Must have troops in the areas we are getting attacked in , AND they have not helped us. a MAP is a mutual agression pact , it means those WE are agressive to , YOU are agressive to. however HJ have not even tried to help us , and have as a leadership , decided they will not. One of the vices even tried to DENY there was a MAP on your forum. 

On top of this Honest John has ignored my messages regarding curro , claiming he was inactive , yet he has been posting on your kd forums in the time he hasnt been replying.

02:51:45 Aug 1st 10 - Duke Some Fcked Dude:

kath mann stop trying to fight your argument mann!!!
you was spying on another KD from what i read so that is bad anyway (if it wasnt you spying then sorry) ...

04:08:02 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

Well as far as the MAP, you will see that I personally was the one that made the forum about attacking Curro asking if we should attack considering he had left your kingdom in apparently bad standings (which was correct). And I was informed not to, as you can see from your very own spy. 

So don't go around ranting and raving about how dishonorable HJ is when it really has to do with a handful of people that have little drama issues. Part of honor is doing what you are told by your leadership and the whole of HJ have done just that. 

I'm new to this game and to HJ, so I don't get all of this drama. Maybe the handful of you have a past of this kinda stuff but what I'm trying to say is, don't let your little personal pickering tarnish the reputation of either kingdom, Pureblood or Honest John. Not to mention the persons within those kingdoms and about whom you're talking.

Edit: And this drama that you guys started just fractured your entire kingdom. 

Pure Blood5Mr. Killurace21

04:09:15 Aug 1st 10 - Duke Some Fcked Dude:

dont worry about it hahaha it is kath :P
you will come to see what he is like in time!!!

04:20:48 Aug 1st 10 - Dr. Evil Smevil:

OMG can't read

05:23:35 Aug 1st 10 - Emperor Palpy Has New Toy Deathstar:


MAP is not Mutual Aggressive Pact

MAP by definition is Mutually Assured Protection/ That if someone attacks you then it is like an attack on your MAP partner as well. If you are the aggressor in a conflict(and i recall a situation eras ago between fate and mad with RVL as naps/maps who didnt join in because one of the parties attacked first.if it had been reversed they would of been forced to join in) the MAP doesnt need to fight(mind you most do for an  excuse to war).

As for the rest, well i warned Point and he gave you the benefit of the doubt. You going your separate ways is highly predictable.

the fact you even have these convos and posting them here doesnt make you white as snow either. if the others are cheating by all means report them to zeta then brag about it if and when they are banned.

06:02:03 Aug 1st 10 - Sir Jondrus Prime:


Battles won: 290
Battles lost: 279


08:04:04 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

I vote Palpy for thread winner. Game, set, match. 

08:47:44 Aug 1st 10 - Duchess Sexxy Minx:

lol pointbreak has always been a dirty multi. about time he got caught.

08:55:31 Aug 1st 10 - Emperor Palpy Has New Toy Deathstar:

yeah but we are all multis of random....i only exist in his would think he would imagine hot babes or sumfink...

09:05:58 Aug 1st 10 - Duke Some Fcked Dude:

hmmm where is random :O????

17:29:00 Aug 1st 10 - Duke Kathandarion The Pure Blooded:

Palpy , i wasnt the agressor , we was attacked by curro jimnez , who had just left our kingdom and attacked us , so either way they still should of helped us.

Lando , i have nothing personal against you , however the people who made these decisions were the leadership of honest john. If you had more vices maybe it would be different , but as it is your entire leadership backed this coward move , despite the fact we spent the first half of our time on zeta shielding you from the fight with dendarii. Do you honestly think thats fair or honorable on your leaders behalf?

17:32:38 Aug 1st 10 - Emperor Palpy Has New Toy Deathstar:

i was merely stating that you were incorrect in your description of what a MAP stands for

18:46:46 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

What do you expect us to do? Our leaders said no so we didn't. Sound pretty honorable to me. Take it up with the leaders personally instead of ranting on the forums about it.

19:09:11 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Vuggy The Annoying Bastard:


00:06:45 Aug 2nd 10 - Master Orrises The Cutthroat:

Duke Kathandarion The Pure Blooded:

put aside this topic and our w.e M.A.P we unfortunately have together. i have no respect for you at all your poor leadership made your kingdom mates leave you not us, we never tried to convince them to leave your kingdom they left due to reasons ( lack of honor, not listening to them ect ), We do not play like you ( convincing Mr. Chaos to Hop to your kd ) they left you and we asked them if they want to join us  some just volunteered to join. if you want redemption lets have a personal war Just you and i it would be my pleasure to knock down your ego little boy. ( p.s i started way later then when honest john jumped on this world so it would be a fair fight )

01:17:17 Aug 2nd 10 - Master Orrises The Cutthroat:

oh look you are no longer with them hmmm.. to bad

01:46:01 Aug 2nd 10 - Ms. Thunder Foot:

Ummm I am new this era and started near pureblood so I joined them.   I did not want to post anything but I just have to I can't stand it.

   Why I was in Pure blood I rarly saw kath online or anything nor did they seem to be winning any war with these others guys dmc.   I saw no plan of action that would work and only really saw one or two players that even cared to try and cordnate moves one of witch was pointbreak.   No one msged me to leave them I left on my own free will as even in skype chat these pure blood guys were fighting and looked to be a kd falling apart before I even joined witch was about the time HJ spawned and rapidly grew and secured a area so Ofc I left and begged them to let me join and you KNOW WHAT!   Their leader declined to take me in cause he did not want to hurt his relations. I ofc convinced him that I wasnt going to play in pure and he can either take me or not but either way I already left them and it had nothing to do with anything beside internal leadership problems with in their ranks.  Point left rite after me prolly cause I did and he could also see that pure blood was falling apart from the inside.

 I see kath crying and complaining and blaming everyone but the truth is that no one other then kath can be blamed for the members leaving, and no one can blame HJ for playing the way they did this kingdom seems ok and better organized then what I saw in pureblood.

 Sorry kath no hard feelings I just really think you should look at things different and step out side the box and see it from anothers veiw point. I dont know anyone in this game and I have no agenda to lie here just wanted to put my few cents out here :)


02:00:43 Aug 2nd 10 - Mr. Ignotus:

Actually I was the first pure blood on site. It was me(Jango) and Arkan who made the kingdom up in the first place. I was already on Zetamania while MYTH was losing to Glads. Just to let those know that kath was not the first one here rather me.

Why I was in Pure blood I rarly saw kath online or anything nor did they seem to be winning any war with these others guys dmc.   I saw no plan of action that would work and only really saw one or two players that even cared to try and cordnate moves one of witch was pointbreak.

As for you thunderfoot. The reason why kath could not get on as much is because of internet issues. I noticed that he was inactive for some time and he left Point in charge. Thunderfoot, you are not the only one who was fighting. I was really trying my hardest but you did not see it. We tried to put up blockers but DMC really knew how to get us down. Pointbreak was trying hard too but again he was not the only one so dont say there was only two ppl actually doing something. Some had our share in the work.

03:07:54 Aug 2nd 10 - Mr. Darth Sidious:

I seem to remember thunderfoot running off and leaving because she get froze?

09:04:19 Aug 2nd 10 - Dr. Evil Smevil:

Enjoying the end of era forum fights so much :P

11:52:31 Aug 2nd 10 - Lord Stewie Griffins Last Era:

Kath, you are undoubtedly one of the stupidest person that VU has ever seen.

16:10:03 Aug 2nd 10 - Duke Kathandarion The Pure Blooded:

shutup stewie , and thunderfoot youve proven that you was not online at all , and was very one sided in your view of the kingdom. we was losing in YOUR part of the map , were as we were winning in EVERY OTHER part of the map we was in. Overall we was winning the war , clearly to anyone who actually looked across the whole map instead of one part , hence why WE , not HJ , but WE won the war in the end , and reached there core WITHOUT help from gulcasa. were as HJ done what? o yeah just follow us in.

And Cutthroat if you PM'd that from point , he was the acting leader of Pure blood as i had connectivity problems.

16:29:13 Aug 2nd 10 - Mr. Curro Jimnez:

My opininon is that there are two ways for understnading you, Kath:

You are a compulsive liar. Nothing in your post is true. Even when you write contradictory things, no one is the truth. You know you failed as a leader, as a player and as game mate, and now you are trying to change your image into VU community. Believe me, it's easier to change your attitude than change our opinion, man. Try acting as a loyal mate or enemy, you will get more and better results than trowing all this crap on everybody except yourself.

Or you are insane. Maybe your mind has the hability to recreate the reality and show it as you would like it to be.

I hope you are only a poor liar. If not, then you have a problem that could be really dangerous in your real life.

17:35:52 Aug 2nd 10 - Sir Musquito:

Don't worry Noa.

I just found out who Kath really is - found him "on stage" on youtube:


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18:39:47 Aug 2nd 10 - Mr. Lando Griffin:

Okay Kath, because you love to spy into our forums why didn't you share this?

19:10:35 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Pointbreak The Pureblooded:

Yes I had Informed Kath I would not stay depending on how my Era went.

I.e If poor leadership and decisions happened again I was out of there.

21:44:50 Aug 1st 10 - Mr. Honest John:

Neither Musquito nor I recruited anyone, there were some messages sent by HJ members to other members but it was not 'official'. 

03:43:09 Aug 2nd 10 - Ms. Thunder Foot:

I left them on my own and was never asked to join this kingdom.. I asked to join and you guys took me in it was that simple really.

 from what I gathered why I was in ther kd is they had multies including this kath person .. so I didnt want to be ther.

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22:29:53 Aug 2nd 10 - Mr. Ignotus:

Wow multis in a kingdom. What a great observation and what a fail that was. There was no multis within the kingdom.

01:25:44 Aug 3rd 10 - Mr. Arthur Zonds Fav:

Only a multi would say such a thing.

02:12:01 Aug 3rd 10 - Mr. Ignotus:


    I have never said anything bad about you really and then you go and do that. Seriously? I have the utmost respect for you and former BoW members. I am not a multi. I will admit I had one but that one was this one. The one on zetamania does not exist anymore. I deleted it when I lost competely. At least I didnt log into a friends account and fix up things on it.

02:18:25 Aug 3rd 10 - Duke Some Fcked Dude:

hmmm what is worse helping a friend or being a multi
"Weighs it up"
ikno its obv helping a friend :)

19:27:18 Aug 3rd 10 - Mr. Ignotus:

Yes and SFD I know you as well. 

08:04:18 Aug 4th 10 - Mr. Vuggy The Annoying Bastard:

You don't know me. Nobody knows me. I lurk in the shadows, and now I shall return to them.

09:28:33 Aug 4th 10 - Mr. Arthur Zonds Fav:

Haha Ignotus :D  I was just joking man :P  Sorry you thought I was serious, but I guess the internet is not the easiest place to use sarcasm.

14:45:01 Aug 4th 10 - Duke Some Fcked Dude:

ignotus arthur lies i swear it wasnt 2 mins before he wrote that, he was tellin me your a multi :P

16:00:19 Aug 4th 10 - Mr. Ignotus:

SFD thats not cool lol. SFD, you know this is SWK right?

18:42:36 Aug 4th 10 - Mr. Vuggy The Annoying Bastard:

See? You completely bypassed my message. Mwuhahaha it's working!

19:59:39 Aug 4th 10 - Mr. Ignotus:

Pssh I know you Vuggy. You are in every thread, annoying the crap out of ppl but thats your job and you do great at it.

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