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Lost for words 2.
15:47:36 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Helmuth Von Moltke:

Well... PHI is losing the war... Now they're losing any grain of dignity too. Whining is one thing. But this is pathetic and worthy of pity.

Zerocool, you are in the appropriate Kingdom for you. I don't care if Weirdmong or the whole PHI bunch comes here and flames me and backs you up but you are as much of a loser SoB as the fake Condinho from Mirror is.

You have no place here but rather on Nirvana trying to find some bug abuses. What can I say? PHI (or if you wish, *beep*suckers) policy. So honourable.

If it's not clear enough the nubzor river jumped from his Zerocool town right into our old core. Owned, you might say... Yes by a guy who knows nothing but cheat.

15:48:42 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Helmuth Von Moltke:

Before anybody comments, this is just a parody, or a mock of PHI's incessent whining when DB riverjumped. Now, PHI is doing it themselves, which I find incredibly amusing after the severe critique they gave towards DB.


15:52:09 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Helmuth Von Moltke:

And just to throw about a Weirdgrivi quote from the prev thread:

Lord Weirdgrivi The Diplomat


7/5/2007 12:49:26 AM

Swifty... You dared to complain when Vendetta and Baccus stole your #1 HoH spot so why wouldn't I do it now?

Is this move more fair-play and dignified?

So Weird, let me ask you this. Is PHI river jumping fair play and dignified?

and from the man himself, lmao!

Mr. Zerocool


7/5/2007 5:45:05 AM
well weird no need for you to post or what so ever with this people.  they aint worth it.. there will always be people who cant take a lose and will try what ever they can to win, even if that includes cheating... so many sore lozers who just cant fight fair..

well for those who think so high of these kingdoms as you know who i mean. i think you need to think harder.

Guess that includes yourself, chump?

16:07:02 Aug 1st 07 - Lord Weirdgrivi The Diplomat:

Uhm... one thing.. suck me *beep*?

I don't give a crap. Thank you, you cheater!

16:08:20 Aug 1st 07 - Lord Weirdgrivi The Diplomat:

P.S. : I am cool.

P.S.2. : I guess this is nto the picture you wanted to paste lol?

P.S.3. : I am cooler than you.

17:18:25 Aug 1st 07 - Dreadlord Valarion:

You (8/1/2007 3:28:37 PM)
grats on the riverjump nub
Mr. Zerocool [PHI] (8/1/2007 3:33:18 PM) GOOD BAD
lol. 1st tiem doing so. just wanted to try it once before leaving the game. cya. hope you had fun, cause i had. :)

17:19:01 Aug 1st 07 - Dreadlord Valarion:

He jumped from nero across to the other side.

17:32:40 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Orly:

I'm sure this isn't a clear case of hypocrisy from PHI, but somebody that didn't listen to his leaders, just like Crom in Zeon. =))

17:40:00 Aug 1st 07 - Ms. Quietone:

No this is typical behavior from the people in PHI- they rant and flame and lie.  This is not the first time they have flamed and accused ppl of doing things that they themselves will do.  They boast about honor but are nothing more than arrogant lying jerks who enjoy the flaiming more so than the game itself because...well that arent that good at it yet

17:46:19 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Durza The Destroyer:

lol you speculate all you want...


Thats all im going to say.

17:50:00 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Helmuth Von Moltke:

There is no speculation Durza.

LGC was rampaging through the area, as is the case in other areas currently. PHI, with its shambolic leadership was unable to direct troops to the vicinity properly in order to repel Valars force.

So what did they do?

They jumped the river to try stop him. Riverjumping. Something they not so long ago strongly criticised DB for doing. Something they lambasted as "unhonourable" and "unfair" and "undignified". They flamed DB heavily for it, and now do it themselves. That is what we find funny.

17:54:33 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Durza The Destroyer:

So much to be said, but Whats the point..

18:05:17 Aug 1st 07 - Ms. Quietone:

There is alot of point when a kingdom is completely hypocritical like PHI

it's just classic

18:15:25 Aug 1st 07 - Sir Frederick:

Right... you leaving the game and wanting to use it before you go. Thats pretty much the lamest excuse ive ever seen. Why dont you merge two scouts somewhere deep inside your core to try it out? Why try it out near where an enemy army is ravaging through your cols as i think we'd agree that this would give you an unfair advantage. And unfair fights is something we both dont want, right... =)

Anyways, ill make sure to check wether youre around next round.

18:31:03 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Durza The Destroyer:

Lol legacy are so hypocrytical, Cant they remember using it themselves upon BoW , whom i was part of? Oh ye its funny how you've started to flame Phi for it yet you've done it multipull time's , So realy what im saying is shut up and stop acting as if you lot are a bunch of angels...

18:37:53 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Helmuth Von Moltke:

Durza, LGC isn't hypocritcal because LGC isn't criticisng PHI for river jumping. Open your eyes and try read a little better, the point of the thread was never to complain about PHI's riverjumping, but PHI's ATTITUDE towards it. (i.e, how they oppose it one minute, then support it the next)

We aren't complaining about PHI's riverjumping. PHI can do as it pleases with regards to river jumping, we know we'll crush you anyway. What we are mocking is PHI's RELATIONSHIP to riverjumping. When other kds riverjump against PHI, PHI calls it "unhonourable" and not "fair play", and flames the other kd, imposing some form of moral standard to which PHI states they wouldn't use the "cheating tactic".

Then, when PHI is getting its ass handed to it, it forgets all the flaming it did earlier in the round about those who used river jumping, and uses itself. Do you notice the hypocrisy? That is what we are pointing out, and laughing at. The hypocrisy and double standards.

Again: We aren't flaming you for river jumping. That would be hypocritical on our part. What we are doing is flaming your hypocritical nature: you say river jumping is bad when its done to you, say you won't do it, and then when you're in trouble, use it yourself. You can't be "against" riverjumping one minute, and "for" it the next when it suits you. You have to have some consistency.

We don't care if you riverjump or not. What we do care about is when you flame others for using it, then later in the round use it yourself.

18:45:54 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Breadlord:

Yeah i cant say evrybody riverjumps but there have been some on pretty much every KD.
Unless we are going to make some agreement taht nobody does that from now on we cant take it so seriously

18:50:30 Aug 1st 07 - Duke Mielo:

Lord Weirdgrivi The Diplomat


8/1/2007 10:08:20 AM

P.S. : I am cool.

P.S.2. : I guess this is nto the picture you wanted to paste lol?

P.S.3. : I am cooler than you.

woooaaah weird, that is soo mature!

*high fives weirdgrivi*

I guess you guys are lying Phi-scum after all, so sad for those few normal people in Phi getting their name slandered around for unhonorable riverjumpers :o I would never do it myself, it's totally against my principles !

18:53:35 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Helmuth Von Moltke:

Don't say that Mielo! You may go down the PHI-road.

Criticise it one minute, then condone it the next! ;)

18:54:23 Aug 1st 07 - Duke Mielo:

that was my point :p I was being sarcastic

19:16:11 Aug 1st 07 - Ms. Persephone:

@Von Moltke:It looks like this is a recurring theme from some kingdoms this era, hypocrisy:)

Evidently its ok to practice it yourself but if your enemy does it then by all thats holy they should be flamed to a nice blackened crisp.

And to anticipate the argument that "its just one rogue member" i dont buy it. If that person stays in the kingdom, then by extension that kingdom condones this behavior. Or is it just trendy to flame 1 or 2 kingdoms as a whole for something that some members do but turn a blind eye when their own members do it(or attempt to do it)? Did i miss that memo? Dont tell me I am going to have to fire Burzum as my secretary:( Dammit, and he looked so good in those fishnet stockings:(.....

@ Durza: And I dont know where he was being hypocritical in his wasnt about the practice itself he was talking about but the apparent conflict bewteen deed vs. creed on Phi's part.....

 @Mielo: Baby why dont you talk to me anymore?:( I'm missing you already.....



*This message has been brought to you by Riverjumpers Anonymous 

19:28:13 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Orly:

I do wonder where loud mouth Weirdgrivi is, he had no problem posting 24/7 in the thread he made about DB, but here except that little railroading post he made, nothing...

19:32:46 Aug 1st 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

I have no clue how to riverjump and I want it to remain that way...

22:13:19 Aug 1st 07 - Lord Weirdgrivi The Diplomat:

I will say three things, biatches so listen up and try to understand :

1.) Quiteone, ur pathetic, thus unworthy of my attention.

2.) Lgc guys, please introduce yourselves when talking to me so I know if reading your opinions is worth it.

3.) I haven't talked so much here cause over the last weeks I have went inactive and am waiting for the end of the era to come asap so I can just stop this VU :) Also I've just returned home from outside XXX!!!! In time to kill some lgczosrs scums ^^

P.S. : Orly = Devi or Cobra? and that german guy is Swifty for sure ^^

P.P.S. : We didn;t river jump FTQW!!!!!!!!!!!

P.P>P>S. : Am I arrogant enough to apply fopr LGCZOODEnsfiode next era?????

22:27:37 Aug 1st 07 - Guildmaster Shizzlemynizzletillifizzle:

hehe you're pathetic, when u flamed us u had all these lenghty responses and now u can only write this arrogant BS.

U must be guilty, otherwise you would have responded in a more mature manner instead of this obvious teenage behaviour. Instead of answering in a mature manner u offend people and create somekind of BS excuse.

22:27:38 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Killstone The Destroyer:

ack i hate flame wars like this =\ why are we even still fighting over wether riverjumping is ok or not?

22:58:57 Aug 1st 07 - Duke Mielo:

well, you are in Phi aren't you?

You could start by asking your leaders why you guys started flaming us about river jumping so we would feel guilty, while you commit it yourselves and it's all ok?

23:10:06 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Killstone The Destroyer:

i never commited riverjumping so dont flame Phi for soemthing barely any Phi members have done!

23:19:10 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Orly:

barely PHI members? You mean Zerofool is barely a PHI members? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

23:26:55 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Helmuth Von Moltke:

Killstone, then equally, DB shouldn't have been flamed for an act barely any DB members had done.

Weirdgrivi was so mature and gave such sophisticated, elaborate replies when he was flaming DB. Wonder why he's resorted to such immaturity and child-like responses now he's been proven a hypocrite, eh? ;)

23:27:57 Aug 1st 07 - Lord Weirdgrivi The Diplomat:

Drenthino, keep ur dignity.

I'm cool!

P.S. : u didn't listen to me drent : "I will say three things, biatches so listen up and try to understand :"


23:56:31 Aug 1st 07 - Mr. Killstone The Destroyer:

yes weirdgrivi is acting immaturly but i would like to say TONS of people in VU act immaturlly when they shouldnt you people are grown adults yes the people who did commit riverjumping are wrong yes zerocool is a hypocrite i dont think weird has riverjumped so he is not a hypocrite but if he ahs then yes he is a hypocrite and i never flamed DB i usually dont throw my self in the middle of a flame war unless it is with the KD i am in.

I am leaving this at you guys are hypocrites for flaming Phi about flaming DB about riverjumping then Phi riverjumped cause now you are flaming someone for riverjumping and for flaming someoneelse for riverjumping which makes you a hypocrite. Chances are the way i explained that doesnt make sense but i know waht i meant =D. these petty flame wars should sjut stop all of them you people jsut need to grow up thats all im saying and leaving this thread unless i absolutly need to come back

00:46:35 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Epyon:

*A raccoon walks in and puts up a flier, it says:



Got a person you hate? Challenge then in the arena!
We give out weapons, you use them to fight your
friends or foes! But remember, all fights are to the death!


00:48:21 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Orly:

Please *beep*tard *beep* down and shut up. As was explained already we're not flaming PHI for riverjumping, we couldn't care less what you do. The reason we are flaming PHI is for hypocrisy, when DB riverjumped they took the morale high ground and flamed DB for something they called "unhonorable" and now what does Zerofool do? Riverjump... oh how the mighty have fallen.

I guess you don't like flames that are attacking PHI eh? Well you know what they say... If you can't handle a burn, stay out of a kitchen.

01:16:03 Aug 2nd 07 - Ms. Persephone:

Orly: Word

As i said in my earlier post, it appears that when it comes to the "evil" kingdoms (for example db from at the beginning of the era, or us in carnage), then they are cheaters who need to be flamed, but when it comes to ones own kingdom, then lets just whistle and look the other way.....

And no i wasnt saying db is evil, notice the quotation marks^^ Now carnage on the hand, we ARE the antichrist:)


Personally, i have been sacrificing 10 virgins a night to Zeta that he would have a elightening moment and figure out a foolproof way to stop riverjumping or declares it legal and then we can ALL STOP HEARING ABOUT IT!




*this rant has been paid for through donations from the Free Enyalius from Donkey Fetish Society

02:36:58 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Lelouch The Black Prince:

PHI criticized DB so now LGC criticizes PHI for revenge, I'm confused, LGC and DB have nothing to do with each other right?!?! Or are they in fact in a super duper uber secret alliance and don't want anyone to know about the fact they're practically one big kingdom?

02:46:31 Aug 2nd 07 - Dreadlord Valarion:

What does that have to do with riverjumping?

02:48:39 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Helmuth Von Moltke:

PHI didn't riverjump to attack DB. They riverjumped to attack us, LGC. Hence why LGC has made the thread, and not DB. This isn't a "revenge" issue, merely that DB could hardly of made this thread and criticised PHI's double standards, seeing as they cannot actually see the area of where it took place, where as we could and were on the receiving end of it. Still, I imagine DB are laughing very hard at PHI's expense now, as I expect many others are, because PHI have been proven to be hypocritical nubs.

Otherwise, it really isn't that hard to understand. I wouldn't of expected Carnage, Abydos, or any other kingdom to have made this thread either, supposing that they couldn't actually see it take place. The same goes with respects to DB.

We saw the jumping, we saw the hypocrisy with regards to previous statements made by PHI, we made this thread to showcase it. No need to try deflect the criticism, Lelouch, with miniscule and trivial matters. Now, get back to river jumping, hypocrites!

02:48:58 Aug 2nd 07 - Judge Renoir:

Lelouch, you certainly look confused.

Next time, try to pay attention and stick to the subject: Phi going all out to condemn river jumping and doing it themselves a little later in the very same era. If you would of gotten the point, you would of realise that anyone could have made that very same thread since you guys went public about the DB river jumping incident.

In simpler terms: how about a big bowl of "shhh"

04:14:35 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Lelouch The Black Prince:

Phi was complaining about DB riverjumping so why would Legacy care? It looks more like flaming a certain kingdom then flaming a certain bug abuse to me.

05:11:15 Aug 2nd 07 - Sir Bruto Cikayson:

"I'm sure this isn't a clear case of hypocrisy from PHI, but somebody that didn't listen to his leaders, just like Crom in Zeon. =))"

Well, not exactly.  Myself and a few others in Zeon condemned it, and I accidentally believed that not riverjumping was our official kd stance.  Which it isn't, apparently.

Let's have a game.  Predict how many posts it will be before this thread is locked.

I'm guessing 73.

05:31:40 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Lelouch The Black Prince:

Curse you Censorship!! You shall not shut out the cries of the masses!!


05:34:07 Aug 2nd 07 - Sir Gaius Septim:

"Uh-oh, there goes the thread!"

05:37:57 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Atreides:

47 is immortal!

He still wouldn't waste time killing someone for you....

07:04:58 Aug 2nd 07 - Judge Renoir:

"Phi was complaining about DB riverjumping so why would Legacy care? It looks more like flaming a certain kingdom then flaming a certain bug abuse to me."

And the "missed the best chance to hide his limited mental capabilities" award goes to...

07:17:05 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Zerocool:

you guys are funny. good luck!

once thing.. we riverjumped cause were losing?? you're kidding right?  you're over 60 ticks away from us. with 100k army? lol.. better think again.. you only had a chance of moving out of you blockign since mostly all the PHI people have gone inactive.

NOTE: as i said to valarion, just wanted to try it once before leaving.. lol. and just wanted you guys to talk *beep* in the forums again, so that i can have 1 last laugh.. i guess you fell for it.... thanks

08:59:49 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Sun:


12:30:03 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Helmuth Von Moltke:

Oh yes, Zerocool the mighty intellectual has had the last laugh on us! It was merely a ploy, a trick, a lure! He did it to fool us into making a thread on the forums!

Not once did he riverjump in desperation to save his rapidly falling area, as Valar was sweeping through, burning and pillaging. No, not at all! It was a trick I say, a trick from the trickster himself. The intention was to make us post about PHI's doublestandards, not to save themselves!

Hark at that! We fell for it, and now look so, so stupid. :(

13:22:42 Aug 2nd 07 - Lord Weirdgrivi The Diplomat:

Swifty suck me b!tch. End of story. Dumb suck*beep*1

14:21:01 Aug 2nd 07 - Mr. Orly:

What happened Weird? Right Han... girlfriend not putting out anymore? =)

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