|Mantrax Age 5|
|23:59:02 Dec 24th 10 - Mr. Rhys Abound Adventure Awaits:|
hurry up Age 4 :p
|00:16:15 Dec 25th 10 - Mr. Insomniac:|
Someone is excited for the new era..lol
|07:58:34 Dec 27th 10 - Mr. Ogrim Doomhammer:|
hahha, couldn't agree more with Rhys' statement.... lol
|03:25:08 Dec 31st 10 - Mr. Totoro:|
:) 2+ days and counting
|03:58:04 Dec 31st 10 - Mr. Panic VIII:|
ditto!! endless, what kingdom you going to?
|06:39:47 Dec 31st 10 - Ms. Penguin Spanked Meh Hard:|
well since I'm in Music on Mant this era I'll either have to move this character to Susuwatari and leave Rhys on Zetamania or move this one to a different world in order to play Rhys, not sure yet ... which character will be playing but definitely in Susu. You sticking with ROC Horus or are you going to come be a dust bunny?
|22:16:28 Dec 31st 10 - Mr. Binh The Pokemon Master:|
Welcome to mantrax :) More peoples = more fun :D
|00:14:20 Jan 1st 11 - Mr. Jack The Drunk Bastard:|
why dont you come and be in roc endless that would be awesome
|02:16:29 Jan 3rd 11 - Lord Canucks:|
come to AoA endless
|02:19:32 Jan 3rd 11 - Mr. Captain America:|
Yeah join AOA, you will get a lot of valuable "experience" if you are in that kingdom.
|02:33:02 Jan 3rd 11 - Ms. Aisha II:|
Its so hard to keep track of people with this new character system :\ would like to send lots of <3 to endless but it already says she changed the name... so sending hugs and kisses here :)
|03:59:52 Jan 3rd 11 - Mr. Rhys Abound Adventure Awaits:|
I deleted my Mant character to try and get Susuwatari onto Mant but there is a bug or something :(
perhaps its a sign ;)
like "you're going to get your ass kicked there so don't bother" ^_^
|12:11:54 Jan 3rd 11 - Judge Kobuskan:|
maybe your other charachter is still in Music
|02:28:16 Jan 4th 11 - Ms. Dirt Devil:|
No I made sure it wasn't, I deleted that character entirely.
I was going to disband the kingdom and remake it however I changed the leadership so I couldn't do that either. lol DOH so then I started kicking everyone to get below the kingdom cap to respawn but ended up on Valhalla despite selecting Mantrax :|
but after that there was only one map left to drop on so I was finally able to kick start Susuwatari on Mantrax :) now I just have to wait for everyone to find their way back to it :D
|20:14:31 Jan 4th 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:|
OFFICIAL MESSAGE TO ALL COUNCILS.
As our leader Kevin have been away now for 27 days, we have promoted one of our vices as Speaker for RoC.
All diplomatic messages should from now go to Panic IX who will be the voice of RoC until further notice from us.
|21:21:02 Jan 4th 11 - Ms. Sexy Pink Liquid:|
come home lost dust bunnies!
|07:20:42 Jan 5th 11 - Ms. Dirt Devil:|
kinda crowded how is dust suppose to grow with all the bright lights around? :)
|05:27:14 Jan 6th 11 - Mr. Dwarvenspawn:|
Looking for a kingdom to join
|19:33:13 Jan 6th 11 - Mr. Paragor:|
join RoC :DDD
|00:14:42 Jan 7th 11 - Mr. Angry Turtle:|
I have pointed this out in other Mantrax threads, and it has always had a positive affect.
STG has been up for 10+ ticks now. If you sell your stone, I will buy it.
|03:52:42 Jan 7th 11 - Mr. Binh The Travelling Merchant:|
*Upon the gate of every city is posted a piece of paper.
Hello to all rulers, my name is Binh the Travelling Merchant. I will be travelling around selling my goods this era. Please open your gate with open arm when I come around to your places. Thanks. ;)
Advertisement made by BSC (Binh's Slave Corporation)
|03:59:52 Jan 7th 11 - Mr. Ogrim Doomhammer:|
I opened my gates for Binh and got great deals on slaves! What a champ; I think everyone should follow suit.
|07:19:54 Jan 7th 11 - Ms. Dirt Devil:|
unless he's a hawt door to door salesman idunno about opening the door to strangers :s
|17:35:53 Jan 7th 11 - Mr. Don Flamenco:|
I will kill you mr. Bean!
|11:16:11 Jan 8th 11 - Mr. Totoro:|
top 4 are pretty close
|23:12:10 Jan 8th 11 - Dark Prince Stirlin:|
man i wish i played for little britain
|23:26:48 Jan 8th 11 - Ms. Dirt Devil:|
lol Stirlin you do :p
stop picking on Totoro, he's a cute warm fuzzy little guy
|08:01:19 Jan 10th 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:|
Now we don't have anything dirty halfer experience feedings going on at Lucimorth, do we Kobuskan???????
3 Music halfling regiments prepping on your ciy?
|09:28:36 Jan 10th 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:|
Screenshot as asked for:
|10:47:20 Jan 10th 11 - Mr. Totoro:|
|10:51:49 Jan 10th 11 - Puppy Puppylicious:|
|17:06:56 Jan 10th 11 - Ms. Aisha:|
In case people think its only Kobuskan giving exp to Music members, you are wrong, it goes both ways, Kobu getting exp too... good job guys, yey for fair play.
|17:26:29 Jan 10th 11 - Prince Anonymous:|
You know what I see?
|17:49:07 Jan 10th 11 - Puppy Puppylicious:|
I don't see it as anything.... seriously, who cares, just play the game and move on. lol
|18:02:15 Jan 10th 11 - Mr. Don Flamenco:|
It's always about relations. If you're allied with Music you will say it's ok with you because it will favor you. If you're against Music then obviously you will hate it.
|18:03:29 Jan 10th 11 - Mr. Fordius II:|
Nah exp feeding is lame seriously.
|18:53:41 Jan 10th 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:|
Some peoples memory are short. Very short.
Remember this from Era 40? Evans was close to win - yet the way he did it was doomed as cheating and Zeta changed the rules for become a winner (3rd July 2009):
|21:25:31 Jan 10th 11 - Ms. Dirt Devil:|
When you rejoining Music Kobu?
|22:07:59 Jan 10th 11 - Puppy Puppylicious:|
I'm miles away from music, so have had no reason to even know they exist. lol
|22:49:01 Jan 10th 11 - Mr. Barny:|
The moment that the community starts to consider this type of play acceptable is the moment that the game will have died.
I have blown the whistle on this type of shameless play in the past, and just as I did then, I have made an elaborate image that has compelling evidence that clearly shows that experience feeding is going on. I am not on my home PC right now, and therefore I do not have this image with me (nor does this computer have a spell checker, so please excuse any poor spelling), but I will post it when I get home. For now, you will just have to take my word for this.
Kobuskan is engaged in an experience feeding ring with Braveheart, Scottology, and Darkfaith- essentially every Music Halfling except Fordius and Glith, who appear to be the only ones with moral values. No one is denying it, and it is going on in plain sight. When I get home I will explain in greater detail how this is being done, as it is much easier to demonstrate using an image as a visual aid.
Puppy, you are a new player and therefore you do not understand the implications of what is going on. Your comment serves as a segway that allows me to explain why this is so fucked up:
Experience feeding is literally the worst form of feeding or exploitation (save for exploiting game-breaking bugs that few or no people know about) that you can possibly do. The impact is FAR more significant than resource feeding or city feeding. There was a time when the community had NO TOLERANCE for this type of shit. Hell, I remember years and years ago when Zeta (the admin and game creator) actually stepped in and deleted players and their entire kingdoms for doing this. In the recent past, Zeta has even changed the formula for scoring to make exp feeding less significant in terms of score. It isn't an intended gameplay mechanic, and it ruins the game.
If a decent player is fed experience, they will never lose. Luckily decent players usually stay away from this type of thing because of how damaging it is to their reputation; it calls into question everything that they have ever accomplished in-game. It provides such an extreme advantage and upperhand that if it ever became acceptable, than the game wouldnt be about superior players and kingdoms prevailing; but about who the best cheater is.
The fact that players even allow this to go on is shameful, and the fact that players would participate in this or associate with players who do this is an affront to the game itself.
You know what I see? I see a player who is notorious for doing the same exact thing trying to defend his own shameful actions via proxy. You have not gone an era on Mantrax in recent times without engaging in exp feeding, city feeding, or resource feeding. I rarely ever make furious or angry posts on the forums because I have a reputation to protect, but it is difficult for me to even respond to you in a civil manner because I respect you less than any other player who still plays Visual Utopia because of your actions.
The fact that you are trying to defend the actions of these players in unsurprising, you couldn't chastise them as dishonorable cheaters looking for any advantage they can get (which is what they are) because you do the same exact thing era after era. I don't even know where to start with your remark, at first I was sure that someone was trying to troll the forums until I saw that it was you posting it.
1. A player loyal to his kingdom wouldn't leave his kingdom, especially if he is the leader.
2. A kingdom's success should not be measured by whether they win or lose, but by how they performed and the actions and decisions they make. By giving yourself such an unfair advantage it is impossible to realistically gauge your kingdom's performance because you set the skill ceiling so low.
3. Players in Music shouldn't be honored to have this going on, they should be ashamed for even being associated with it.
4. It is part of the game because it is an inevitable flaw. Zeta has demonstrated numerous times that this is just as much an unintented mechanic as resource and city feeding, so it is up to the players to make sure that it doesnt happen. There are FAR more significant bugs and exploits in the game, but using them is still cheating.
I know this has all been one huge wall of text, but I can't sit by and allow players to think that this is acceptable behavior. Subjects so important and actions so shameful are deserving of long explanations and posts.
|23:24:15 Jan 10th 11 - Puppy Puppylicious:|
No, Barny, I understand what it is. It's flagrant abuse of flawed game mechanics, used to get ahead of other players. I've seen it and pointed it out to devs in another game, but I've learned to not let it bother me so much. No, I won't be really doing it myself, unless the era has been played out and arma is needed.
It's just that players obsess over things like that and forget to try enjoying themselves anyway. It's human nature to look for loopholes and secret advantages, so everyone needs to accept that, try letting Zeta know it's around, and move on. We all find out who the big cheats are, so we can target them specifically, not accept them into our kingdoms, and etc.
|23:41:32 Jan 10th 11 - Dark Prince Stirlin:|
lol at people saying its ok to cheat
|23:49:11 Jan 10th 11 - Mr. Roxbury:|
So any halfer that plays it straight, is at a huge disadvantage against "tactics" like these. As halfling you are guaranteed not to find any scis in Mantrax this era, since these guys got started exp trading so early.
|23:57:24 Jan 10th 11 - Mr. Heliostratos:|
Can somebody explain how its works
|00:10:11 Jan 11th 11 - Ms. Dirt Devil:|
Rox, while I didn't see Braveheart do any xp exchanging with AOA or anybody else last era I did see his advents running circles looking for treasures, so he did not just sit in a blocker. That is the only thing I will correct in your post. Given what we've seen this era of Kobu and Music I have to say I'm inclined to think he might have done the xp gain elsewhere or out of my line of sight last era :(
|01:09:10 Jan 11th 11 - Mr. Barny:|
He can still do this type of bullshit while sitting in a blocker, it isn't as though he needs to keep the Adventurer in the blocker too.
It is ridiculous how a whole kingdom is getting in on this.
|01:16:14 Jan 11th 11 - Mr. Paragor:|
yeah its total crap
who cares if i kill my #2 HoH army, if it'll disrupt this then so be it
|01:18:25 Jan 11th 11 - Mr. Fordius Revived:|
Guys don't overreact.
|02:02:35 Jan 11th 11 - Sir Horus XII:|
Barny, You have some strong opinions and sometimes I don't agree with you. You do know the mechanics, though, as good as anyone. I have been around the game long enough (even though I missed the golden age) to have met some players and played alongside some players, that have taught me the way this game should be played. I've seen things deteriorate for some time now but I've stuck around regardless. I've seen kingdom hopping, people starting massive wars without proper declarations, selfish play, but you really hit the nail on the head. Two statements stick out:
|02:27:54 Jan 11th 11 - Mr. Arthur Dent Isan Orc:|
All this feeding stuff is why Fant is ghey, and why Mantrax is half-ghey. I honestly didn't think I would see much feeding in Mantrax though. I mean seriously? It's a game first of all, no one gives a crap if you win. But more importantly on Mantrax? Yeah really...
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