|Special terms of a PHI NAP|
|11:04:24 Oct 22nd 09 - Mr. Frodo Lost His Ring:|
1. We agree to let KoH pass through our blockers to Fanta, except we wont.
2. Should KoH manage to get to Fanta by some other route we will have no problem with them building there. except we will.
3. Phi is allowed scouts only in valhalla, except they will attack and take over our nap partners cities in valhalla and then remain in valhalla.
4. we will give KoH a city "here comes phi" of a couple hundred buildings when we retreat from valhalla but then tell everyone we gave KoH all our valhalla cities.
5. should phi breach any of these conditions we reserve the right to run to the forum talking about how dishonourable KoH is and how little respect we have for them etc.
|11:07:00 Oct 22nd 09 - Psycho Puff Daddy Choo Choo:|
I have a good idea. pull a <insert kingdom name here> and declare on them.
|13:27:17 Oct 22nd 09 - Wolflord Karac:|
Grow up frodo. Read the messages. Its was agreed EDD could go thru, ask why, he cared about his endscore.
The only reason we have cities is because ur shit kd let crazy thru to attack us, AFTER the nap was signed, and then swapped a blocker with crazy giving them direct access to our core, yeah, we came to valhalla and took cities. Who fucked the NAP? On two occasions, your piece of tard kd.
|13:48:19 Oct 22nd 09 - Mr. Crissxcross:|
1. We agree to let KoH pass through our blockers to Fanta, except we wont.
|18:21:36 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
LOL actually there was no blocker swapping thats bullshit, I walked around his blocker as it didnt block at the time.
then I took cities because you were too dumb to build troops, if Nopulse hadnt backstabbed me I would have taken half of starta before you could do anything, instead I had no Mus and you managed to freeze me.
we signed a nap and you tried to chnage the terms afterwards, you got flat out busted being dishonourable and now its biting you in the ass.
|20:01:15 Oct 22nd 09 - Mr. Mavich:|
"I would have taken half of starta before you could do anything, instead I had no Mus and you managed to freeze me."
|20:03:25 Oct 22nd 09 - Mr. Crissxcross:|
You are soo strong Kitty you are sooo powerfull you are soo magnificant you are you are your the one and only.
|20:13:38 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
LOL , you were whining about Crazy, what was funny was how easily I was taking cities, however Nopulse killed the army that was bringing my Mus so I was able to eb frozen by roariing silence. anyway you guys were whining about nap breaking which i found funny given that your broke a nap 2 hours after agreeing to it. then made excuses.
|20:18:03 Oct 22nd 09 - Sir Struddle:|
I'm kinda curious why you'd even need MU's in your army........ unless I'm mistaken I thought Kitty was playing elf........ Elves dont really need MU's once they have Archmages. The only reason an elf should ever have MU's in their army is to cast spells on the move they arent needed for magic protection....... I havent put a single MU in my Archmage armies all era and I've never been frozen so I really really really am curious how your 500k army got frozen....... do please explain...........
|20:19:21 Oct 22nd 09 - Mr. Frodo Lost His Ring:|
lol i think the funniest thing i have EVER heard in 3 years of gaming was i swapped a blocker to allow Ryan through.
Ryan hates my guts, the feeling is mutual and last era you would of seen crazy and KoA(my former alliance) in a slanging match in the forum which resulted in a whole bunch of locked topics. before that i had been in hellbunnies who also have no love of crazy, however my kingdom mates DO have relations with them.
ryan even threatened to destroy my army once this era so that little theory goes out the window.
i gave ONE city to a guy who had been tagged demon of razgiz and was down to his last 2-3 cities and hurting bad... the blocker served no purpose for me at all( and was given to him before any nap with phi was signed anyhow) so i gave it away rather than have any expectation to maintain it.
i do try to keep fairly informed but frankly i had no idea, and still only some, on who phi's allies and enemies are etc. the first i even knew of any issue tween phi and crazy was when phi commented on that blocker and then shortly afterwards attacked those cities. i have no scouts excet in fanta so i had no idea about any attack from crazy(and assumed phi was the agressor only from what i saw) and the pieces of the puzzle have only just dropped(crazy-duke kitty- attacked a non aligned kingdom in starta)and thus phi's response i witnessed and just now realised why it occurred.
as for my cities in fanta...well i thought we were friends and despite the 12 mill gold or so cost to build a city (which i havent touched since) i would of destroyed it had it been an issue ...ironically i thought i could of acted as a later blocker for that friendly if needed but oh well.
we have had our fill of war we dont need more cities or more battles won, we have had a splendid era. what we needed was access to fanta and PHI admitted they wont let anyone other than Edd through. i am not a leader or diplomat but he did message a lot of people and we did try to get it resolved....we had no enemies in fanta or starta so it could be no nap breach to let us through and it would of helped forge , what we had considered, further positive relations.
|20:22:35 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
Struddle elves dont get very good magic protection on archies, at least not as good as they should, I had 100k acrhies and 30 k mages when Roaring silence froze me from across the map. my mag level is 8. so now i make sure more mus are added.
as for Palp, lol we dont see eye to eye. nuff said.
|20:33:42 Oct 22nd 09 - Sir Struddle:|
i somehow doubt that....... and they actually get great protection. They get the protection of an MU and then the magic science tied in it's why they are so powerful. So I doubt that your entire army is all Archmages...... Especially since I was on the front lines against FATE most of the era and never had my army frozen from the other side of the map and I only had 85k AM's until Beast killed my army. Btw good kill never got to say that.
|20:38:50 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Drakos:|
No mu's in an all archmage army is easily froze by a decent Mage....they do offer some Magic Protection, just like a MU. Thats it.
|20:46:38 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Drakos:|
As far as the Title of this thread, it was in the messages between Edd and Karac as they hashed out the agreement that ONLY Edd would have passage to Fantasia as he wanted the score "he deserved". As Edd was an ex-wolf and Karac and I trust him, we said HE could move to Fant. The rest of your Kd did not to have the same privilege.
|20:51:13 Oct 22nd 09 - Sir Struddle:|
But the question for me remains whether or not he actually had all archmages in the army. I laughed my ass off when I saw it frozen and then thought to myself well it's not the first time Ryan has talked about having a massively powerful army which turned out to be a fluke. Drakos I'm not saying I never do it. I just found it hilarious that he: 1. Got frozen 2. Never bothered to scout merge up to another city 3. Never bothered to even make an attempt to cast Magic Protection on himself because he was frozen there for a while 4. Would have that few MU's in his army in the first place. And when he sent more didnt protect them. Ofc the biggest thing for me Drakos is I'm lazy and never really bothered besides I know it's the same for PHI as it is for RVL. We have great Mages that work hard to get the job done so I never had the need to go into battle with an over excessive amount of MU's. (back to the topic at hand) PSHT EVERYONE KNOWS KARAC AND DRAKOS ARE THE BIGGEST LIARS AND MOST UNHONORABLIST PEOPLES IN THE GAME!!!!!!!!! <3 love you guys ^.^
|21:14:50 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Drakos:|
LOL Struddle. <3 you too
|21:20:20 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
1- I tried to cast MP on myself I had a rousing 17%.
2- I had at the time 100k archmages and aroudn 20-29k mus or so. I was waiting for the rest in a city in the south for a day or so before I decided to risk it. btw 100k archmages is apparently not that powerful lol.
3-I didnt bother to scout merge because I was watching how many times they had to cast they were wasting shitloads of mus but they were getting me frozen.
4-When I sent more it was in an army with 80k archmages marching on a world where we didnt have any enemies anymore (at the time we were in an agreement with Nopulse) Random saw a chnace to break the CF and attack an army smaller than his at the same time.
|21:30:59 Oct 22nd 09 - Mr. Frodo Lost His Ring:|
this is from our forum from Edd when the nap was published there:
I negotiated a path from phi that will give us free passage through their world to fant so use it and go there to get a good score.
|21:39:55 Oct 22nd 09 - Mr. Edd:|
exactly stupid Phi never said only I could go through at any point thats why i told everyone in my kd to go to FANT and get a good era end score.
|21:51:46 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
They seem to have problems with english.
Our nap specificaly said NO CITIES ARE TO BE RETURNED. yet afterwarsd they claimed that they meant something different. the problem being that we accepted the nap as it was written and so did they.
|22:14:13 Oct 22nd 09 - Mr. Edd:|
exactly Phi is the dishonorable kd here.
|22:32:43 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
Yup, but oddly enough they will argue their position even when it is obviously wrong. You are evil because you attacked them when all they want to do is farm, I am obviously the bad guy because I kept my word and followed the nap terms as they were written and they took my city anyway LOL.
|23:00:11 Oct 22nd 09 - Wolflord Karac:|
You both are retarded. Bad kitty, your kd admitted you were being dumb, so I will no longer respond to your childish crap. Go back to the farm and 'enjoy' your animals.
Edd, I said YOU, show me a message where I said Kingdom Hearts. You said YOU wanted the endscore YOU deserve. So, I said fine, YOU can go through.
Not my fault you didn't think to ask for everyone from your kingdom, stop being selfish about your endscore, like 300k ams is even going to give you a top 10 finish. You can be pissed at your own stupidity if you want, and keep trying to blame me and PHI if ya want. Its pathetic.
|23:42:32 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
you will no longer respond because you were wrong, here Ill post it in your words for you.....
So, you jackballs broke the nap by attacking, therefore, Phi= unhonorable.
*Yawn* next please.
|23:55:37 Oct 22nd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
btw 300 ams is a lot for someone who wasnt just farming all era while fighting a couple easy battles against an alliance who was fighting off 3-4 other alliances.
|00:09:04 Oct 23rd 09 - Mr. Crissxcross:|
oh btw, Duke Kitty really had 100k AMs there and some mus, but magic level 8 is really week for an elf, even some of our trolls have that magic level ^^, so no wonder we were able to freeze him several times, we learnt from former eras and kept one operating mage base in starta for cases like a sneak attack from a kingdom from Valhalla or Nirvana.... and we were right, btw the same mage base will keep Suprise frozen till his army get slaughtered, so you can say good bye to your army scores and be happy that era will end before we have gathered some more of our troops from fantasia to invade Valhalla.
|00:10:24 Oct 23rd 09 - Mr. Crissxcross:|
btw who really is reading this massive mail hehe, I normally do not so long mails, because too tiring ^^
|00:34:21 Oct 23rd 09 - Psycho Puff Daddy Choo Choo:|
I think the problem kitty has is that by losin the blocker he lost the troops that were training. anywayhearts didn't open anything for us we moved down south of them and had a path so they didn't betray PHI. It was a little evil for us to attack but we had no relations so it wasn't a stab in the back. a stab in the back is when a kingdom has a NAP and attacks.
anyway it sounds like hearts misunderstood the PHI agreement. I can see that your kindom would be angry at kitty's attack but after agreeing to a NAP and attacking him was lame. the messages are instantaneous.
|01:26:58 Oct 23rd 09 - Mr. Crissxcross:|
well, then there must be some misunderstanding in comunications, just look here my logs. This can happen when people are not active all time and not reading all forum msgs and mails isntantly.....
--> town got liberated before the msg sent from Zero...
and here the msg from Zero, the first mass mail the kingdom got about NAP with Crazy and the first time I heart myself about NAP with Crazy.
+ So this is what we got from Zero who is telling us two things:
The cities taken by Phi from crazy are not to given back, for repayment for the damage Kitty did with his attack.
And that Kitty has to move back to starta.
my kingdom got those two informations almost 2h later when the town was allready liberated.
So whom to blame ???
If Kitty is right, then Phi players got informed to late about the agreement and this only if the agreement he accepted is different from the post we got.
Because it was only written that no town from crazy will returned. Not those from Phi. aswell, so you can interpete this sentence in two ways...
They have to be returned,
or they have not to be returned.
So in the end I think it is a misunderstanding,
So again whom to blame ?
Oh and psycho I never said you broke any peace agrement, because you are right, we had none. I said sneak attack, not backstab :D.
The backstab was made somehow from KoH not warning us, what is coming toward us, letting us believe the northern boarders of Starta are safe after the NAP with them.
|02:24:01 Oct 23rd 09 - Duke Random:|
lol lvl8 magic AMs. cool story bro ;)
|02:37:59 Oct 23rd 09 - Prince Sprout:|
I have alot of respect for alot of members of PHI,, ( LL BOW) I will say I have seen some unhonorable actions from them this era tho, but hey its a war game rite ?
|07:12:31 Oct 23rd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
well Criss either it was a massive attack or an elven scout army its one or the other. this is my first era as an elf im learning lol, always played orc before.
|07:27:03 Oct 23rd 09 - Mr. Frodo Lost His Ring:|
well no crazy attacked through that blocker anyway unless i am mistaken, i certainly didnt see it and i had no idea what relations phi and crazy had.
certainly if i knew crazy and phi were to fight i wouldnt hand it over, it was just to help out a single player( in case you are still too thick i DONT LIKE crazy especially much)...it was a demon of razgriz player who changed tags as he was about to be wiped out. i offered the deal to him when he was demons but he didnt get back to me until later(or i wasnt online which i havent been much-massive internet issues here have limited my time).
there is a problem in english language of the word "you"...russians solve this Bbi formal and plural(more than one person) and Tbi singular informal....so when you say " You can go through the blockers" the term in itself is vague but netherless you should have opened them anyway as we were friends and we had no enemies on fanta anyway. no pulse would do it for us on manta to get to fanta so why couldnt you??
|14:28:52 Oct 23rd 09 - Mr. Mavich:|
Anyone noticed that only Kitty is posting from Crazy?
So Phi players, please ignore Kitty since he really has no credibility to begin with but I have to say, sucks not having the support from one's own KD says a lot about the person's character.
|20:51:40 Oct 23rd 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
LOL Nurse plagalicious is our diplo, as for compensation that would have been up to me as a vice and the person who was attacked when you broke the nap. if plagalicious was just trying to talk, then good on her.
|00:04:04 Oct 24th 09 - Mr. Crissxcross:|
|00:09:11 Oct 24th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:|
LOL yet you still read and responded.
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