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USSR - barking mad
22:04:01 Apr 1st 07 - Lady Spooky:

We have a NAP with USSR - negotiated with their leader Leninov -  or so we thought.  One of their players attacked me.  I asked Leninov why.  After a LOT of shillyshallying and evasion it turns out that we only have a NAP with half the Kingdom, so it's perfectly Ok for the other half to attack us.  This is what he said to me:

"You must understand first the system of government by which the USSR is run. You have an NAP with the North Core Soviet Socialist Republic.

It is possible that you may not have an NAP with the South Core Soviet Socialist Republic, which is led by People's Deputy Marshal Millenuim. It would be best if you took your case before the local People's Deputy before me, as I can only advise him."

I told him (very politely) that this was not how this game works - here's his answer:

"Like I said, the USSR is an entirely different political system than any that has ever existed before." and went on to say it was OK for their southern leader to tell his players to attack KDs that the northern part of the KD has a NAP with.

Clearly he's in need of some re-education.  May I make a suggestion or two for Mantrax players.

1. If you have a NAP/MAP with USSR.  They can't be trusted.  They will attack you at a whim.  Get them before they get you.

2. If you have no NAP with USSR.  Very smart of you.  Kill the untrustworthy scum.

3. If you are a player in USSR.  Your leader is a fool.  Leave and join someone who knows what they're doing.

4. If you are Leninov.  You are a fool.  Too bad. 

22:07:18 Apr 1st 07 - Mr. Amunra:

well done spooky, next era they will last until OOP, then they are DEAD, we don't like smart asses! south core, north, lol...creative, but stupid none the less!

22:10:24 Apr 1st 07 - Ms. Bored:

Agreed, today the USSR broke a NAP with us and attacked us for no reason, Leninov you truly are a fool.

22:44:30 Apr 1st 07 - Mr. Gustavo Petro:

Yup, they started attacking us as well ... they asked us to leave them alone and then there wouldn't been a war. We left them alone and suddenly an uprise of USSR armies upon my people.

Shame on you guys! As you can see, USSR isn't the same USSR of last era (in Zetamania) lead by Leonid Breshnev. That was my gang, and loyalty and respect for new players were one of the main rules we respected.

23:17:57 Apr 1st 07 - Guildmaster Drenthinio:

Haha, weird things are happening on mantrax ;)

23:19:50 Apr 1st 07 - Lady Spooky:

So that's 3 KDs you've pissed off already Leninov.  Nothing to say for yourself?  (other than asking me to join your wonderful KD... the answer is no by the way)

00:23:48 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Gustavo Petro:

lol, he asked me the same thing. He even granted me the role as playing leader of his kingdom ...

00:52:04 Apr 2nd 07 - Ms. Bored:

Fight together to defeat the USSR anyone?

00:58:48 Apr 2nd 07 - Prince Insomaniak:

/me <3 Spooky...greetings...all the people of Carrothia...and The Carrothian himself :P

04:38:43 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Danny Boy:

This is the funniest thing I have ever heard.

Kingdoms in Mantrax better check which fraction of USSR you are allied/NAP with. By the above explanation, if you entered NAP with Mr. Leninov, go attack USSR southern faction. It is ok. If you entered NAP with Mr. Millenuim, go attack USSR northern faction. It is ok.

BTW, how to differentiate if a USSR member belong to North or South Core Soviet Socialist Republic. Slice the Mantrax map in half (North and South)and see the location of the USSR player cities or armies? He could be "untouchables" in north but moment he moves south, he is fair game (and vice versa). I think this is very interesting and is the only way Mantrax kingdoms know which USSR armies/cities to attack/NAP. ;-p

Now if you enter a NAP with USSR with a USSR player beside Leninov or Millenuim. Please check which faction this fellow falls under. Who knows, USSR might even have a West Core Soviet Socialist Republic and/or East Core Soviet Socialist Republic.

This gotta to be the greatest joke for this era.:-)

04:41:41 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Dakarius:

The real joke will be if and when they come to Fantasia =P
edit: typo

(Edited by Mr. Dakarius 4/2/2007 4:45:17 AM)

04:43:05 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Danny Boy:

Oh Oh, one more thing. There is a simpler solution to the above problem and you have less headaches going this way.

Don't NAP USSR and kill all of them.

04:46:54 Apr 2nd 07 - Prince Insomaniak:

can we have them on Fantasia?! pleeeeeeeaaaassseeeee?!!! we can use a few more pets to play with on that world...

08:46:02 Apr 2nd 07 - Lady Spooky:

Danny Boy - you're spot on.  However as I don't blame all the players (some of them seem to have had no idea that this is what was going on) I hope they will see the light and leave.

08:50:37 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Jadbalja:

Spooky, it's the same on Fantasia. Made a NAP with Cannabis and three of their members decided they didn't really agree to it and kept attacking us. Which we were taking care of until Abydos decided this would be an opportune time to attack. Gotta love those guys.
BTW Falazar says tomorrow our kingdom is going to fall apart. They have been trying to recruit PKS members... maybe they talked one into it. So maybe we will all go to a different map after they wipe us out..... yeah.

10:45:05 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Andrei The Impaler:

Oh Jadbalja,it seems that the enemies make use of WMD against pks once more :(.
Edit:Maybe you are worth it after all since you are all war-mongering,flesh-eating demons :-S

(Edited by THE SEX GOD 4/2/2007 10:46:08 AM)
(Edited by Mr. Andrei The Impaler 4/2/2007 10:46:53 AM)

13:25:30 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Dimmler:

Everyone makes mistakes, as does Leninov obviously. He's on Mantrax to learn as well as all of you. The few experienced players there are there to teach the new ones. Hence my presence.

All our NAPs count for the entire kingdom, no north or south section as it would be impossible to define someone 'north' or 'south'.

As of now, all USSR relations will go through me. As I told you spooky, your NAP counts for the entire kingdom. Mine as well as yours.

Good day,

14:32:04 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Gustavo Petro:

Why are you guys asking for a CF ???

A member of the team (FARC) was scouting the area with his small army and he accidentally head onto one of your cities ... you guys give him immediately the warning, leave or face a war with your entire kingdom ... He runs of and you guys war us anyway :s ... now you are so lame to ask for a Cease Fire ??? Face the consequences

14:46:23 Apr 2nd 07 - Crazy Xuaron:

Mr. Jadbalja We from Abydos arnt trying to recruit PKS members.
we dont take ppl in Mid era

and we didnt wait till the  right moment to attack we just did.

and Falazar can say manny things dont beleave him all the time LOL

14:46:40 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Cobra:

Haha funny stuff from the USSR guy, pathetic but funny. He's all into that RP too.

14:55:52 Apr 2nd 07 - Sir RA Enlightens You:

lol, yes, recruiting in PKS, how stupid would that be?  :-p

15:41:13 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez:

We all hate USSR. They stole our KD name from last era...'cos they can't think of one for themselves! Anyway, yes...they declared war on us for no that we are pushing them back in the west they are asking for a CF. Hahaha, people these days.



If this means anything to anyone...definatly not to me, never heard of the guy.

Mr. Leninov [USSR] (3/28/2007 11:34:43 PM) GOOD BAD

Last era i was Vasily...consul of the Fantasian Republic

(Edited by Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez 4/2/2007 3:43:47 PM)

15:48:40 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez:

Oh and dimmler don't give that BS. I was tricked into joining the USSR thinking it was the same one as last era. AND I DID SEE A NORTH AND SOUTH SECTION POST ON FORUM BY MILLENIUM AND LEONIV.

Oh BTW again, all members of the USSR do yourself a favour and leave, if you get attacked they won't help you, even when i still thought they were last eras USSR they just let me die...

Just said the DIE thread so BTW again.

USSR Union of Soviet Socialist Republics 30 Mr. Leninov 174
DKN Death Knights 61 Mr. Halion 158
BN Bones 40 Mr. Spraitas 144
FARC Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia 16 Mr. Gustavo Petro 100

We have a better player/KD power ratio...hmm. You can pump newbs like DKN but you wont suddenly become incredibly powerful.

(Edited by Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez 4/2/2007 3:52:02 PM)

15:57:14 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Soccerplaya:

manuel velez, fantasian republic was a very small kingdom. once earth peace, draconis clan, and herbal essence all died (they were also small, powerless kingdoms) some members started the fantasian republic. im pretty sure it died days after the other, V and carnage were tearing through the area

16:09:13 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Dimmler:

Do you see me asking for NAP with FARC anywhere here? No.

And for the member : power ratio, the facts speak for themselves, but we have a lot of dead weight in our kingdom at this point.

16:24:14 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez:

Mr. Leninov [USSR] (4/1/2007 10:36:41 PM) GOOD BAD
Yo no s� por qu� FARC quiere la U.R.S.S. muerta tan mal, pero tengo que decir que usted nos ha obtenido. �Hay alguna manera pac�fica que podemos asentarnos esto?

I do not know why FARC wants the USSR dead so badly, but I have to say that you have gotten us. Is there any peaceful way which we can settle this?
You (4/2/2007 8:19:00 AM)
dear Mr. Leninov

You are now requesting us to leave you guys in peace? Let me tell you a little story: Once upon a time there was a warrior named 'The dark II' He was scouting the area with a small army of his, but unfortunately he halted near a city of a kingdom named 'USSR'. Immediately he got a angry message saying, "if you attack my city our kingdoms will become in a hard war! Leave now while you still have the chance!"

The brave warrior left the city at once, because he wasn't in search of any war at that time ... But a few days later he saw upcoming forces from members of the USSR (Forre and Dimmler). They raped their wifes and children and slaughtered every man in his towns.

I hope I made myself clear and that it was you guys that started this and now we act like your kingdom behavior.
And for any CF I would counsel my kingdom, ofcourse they know what you did as much as USSR does ...

El commandante de FARC
Gustavo Petro


Dimmler i have no idea who you are and i don't care, you mean nothing to me. I'm talking about leoniv...By dead weight, do you mean leoniv? It seems likes hes about to die.

(Edited by Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez 4/2/2007 4:24:45 PM)

17:51:00 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Draven:

that is definately different this north and south faction crap. funny too, another place to put blame, kill em off then no more probs ;)

17:57:58 Apr 2nd 07 - Ms. Minerva:

gosh they are stupid aren't they, and how do the expect every one to know they have a different type of government with out personally telling everyone.

22:25:34 Apr 2nd 07 - Lady Spooky:

Dimmler seems a decent guy and I believe he's sincere in his NAP offer.  However Leninov is still the leader.  With all due respect to you Dimmler how can we be sure that what you say goes and Leninov won't suddenly take it into his head to allow another part of his KD to attack us?

22:37:34 Apr 2nd 07 - Ms. Bored:

The agressive one here is millenium and armyofone.

23:00:17 Apr 2nd 07 - Mr. Dimmler:

As Leninov has decided to maintain leadership I feel as though the integrity of USSR is lost and have therefore resigned my membership.

As for Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez I don't do mudfights. However, by dead weight I'm referring to those players who join the kingdom for it's emblem and thus protection, not participating within it.

00:23:59 Apr 3rd 07 - Lady Spooky:

Very honourable Dimmler.  If the rest of USSR had an ounce of sense they'd do the same and join back in a new KD with you.
(Edited by Lady Spooky 4/3/2007 12:24:20 AM)

00:31:41 Apr 3rd 07 - Mr. Hungrier Horse:

I do have to say, I lol'd at the guys warped reasoning.

00:32:49 Apr 3rd 07 - Lady Spooky:

It's all very well for you sniggering on Fantasia mate.  I have to live next to the bloody fool on Mantrax!

00:50:18 Apr 3rd 07 - Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez:

I do too spooky...also next to Highwayman and the leader of the old KD, Lithuania Ordin, (share some laughs with me there anyone...i know HWM did).

08:49:27 Apr 3rd 07 - Lady Spooky:

Ah you mean Honoras of United Dwarf Clan.  He's not as mad as Agurkas was though.  Has he asked you to join his KD and help him conquer the world yet?  (I declined.  World domination is so 1990s)

10:22:40 Apr 3rd 07 - Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez:

Yeah i tricked him into giving me some time to kill him :)

14:24:52 Apr 3rd 07 - Lady Spooky:

Can we play?  :)

17:56:51 Apr 3rd 07 - Mr. Manuel Marulanda Velez:

Sure you can, take what you want...i just took out there merge on my city. Free cities for all!

02:19:45 Apr 25th 08 - Mr. Ambrose:

In my extreme boredome, I tend to read the olddd topics just for laughs some time...I think this possibly the funniest thing I have ever seen written within the politics forum. Read the first post, I nearly soiled me undies. *beep* *beep* ass *beep* and carrotts

02:58:30 Apr 25th 08 - Sir Hiding:

you never read anything by firendash then.............. he was classic.

03:21:43 Apr 25th 08 - Mr. Ambrose:

On the contrary! After carefully reviewing this subject, I have re-classified the information as historically significant! Oh, how I shall enjoy every moment of its possible catagorization.

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