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Loyalty and trust
10:26:31 Jul 22nd 13 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

When knights give their loyalty to a king, they will protect the king with their life and will gladly die if that is needed. They will not question the decisions and will obey what ever orders they receive.

What is the situation in Visual Utopia? Do you follow all orders that leaders give you? Even when you think the decision is bad, and will get you killed, would you still follow the order? In all kinds of movies once king gives an order the knights will obey and do as ordered, even in Lord of the Rings you know of the famous scene when king orders his son to attack orcs and they all get killed. They obeyed his order.

Does it matter to you what world are you on, how experienced your leader is? Would you still obey orders if the leader is much less active and not as good player as you are? Or that does not matter, and you should always follow orders from the king if you decided to join that kingdom? Would not obeying the order make you un-honorable? And how much is honor valued in Visual Utopia? 

Do you know of un-honorable players that you would not accept in the kingdom just because they have no honor? I hear there is a lot of backstabbing going on in lower worlds, but I wanted to know will these people be remembered as such or will it be forgotten quickly? 

11:31:49 Jul 22nd 13 - Mr. Izanagi:

I generally follow orders, even if I don't consider the plan to be good. A leader skill, activity, or experience does not matter much. However, I will not obey extremely stupid, or suicidal orders, when there are significantly better alternatives.

17:59:02 Jul 22nd 13 - SFD (Lord Silent Fire Dragon):

Kath is one person who I would hate to be in a KD with.................. don't even know if he still plays.

18:33:04 Jul 22nd 13 - Mr. Orpheus:

Kathandarian is one of my past names :P And yes, I am playing :D

18:36:17 Jul 22nd 13 - Zond (The Gravitation):

hi kath. why did u ever go quiet in the fb chat. they didnt hate u cuz ur black.. just seemed that way. :P 

18:40:34 Jul 22nd 13 - SFD (Duke Stealth Fire Demon):

Kath remember that time you left the KD and attacked it???

ikno im thinking the exact same thing.... wch time :D

18:45:19 Jul 22nd 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

Honor in VU is more of an opinion based on how good people speak about you, and your actions.

Sometimes the leader/king of a kingdom/group would make a bad choice but for that there are the vices/councilors who would suggest/plan alternatives, rather than a suicidal move.

18:50:52 Jul 22nd 13 - SFD (Duke Slender Frame Displayer):

es reply to my RP :P

ontopic, if anyone vice or not see's a fault in a plan usualy they speak up, if they do and they still go ahead with it ok you tried, if you change their mind even better .

im loyal to any KD (unless I go inactive) but mainly try and stick with people I know in the game.

20:02:19 Jul 22nd 13 - Tyr (Sir Tyrgalon):

Kinda samne as SFD for me :)

20:36:20 Jul 22nd 13 - Mr. Binh Ladinh:

I generally go off and do my own thing, fuck loyalty to the king, If someone can solo a kingdom let them.

20:55:43 Jul 22nd 13 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

So you are saying that Kath guy would be a person not to be trusted and not honorable, though a simple /whois fuction on chat gives information that on both his characters he is part of a kingdom, and both kingdoms seem to be doing well and been around for a while, especially The Death Dealers.

Does that mean that honor isnt really that important in the game? Backstabbing is punished only the era that the action is made, or maybe just the next era? Then its forgotten and forgiven? 

Also Binh Ladinh, what does it mean to solo a kingdom?

20:57:38 Jul 22nd 13 - Xerxes The Great (Mr. Rfgdfghfdghrg):

I think what he means to take out a whole kd by himself.

21:04:10 Jul 22nd 13 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

Ah a forum troll. I will learn to recognize them.

21:13:43 Jul 22nd 13 - SFD (Duke Slender Frame Displayer):

many times I have seen/heard kath has disbanded his KD/left a KD and killed his people.
I would tolerate him in a KD but I wouldn't want him there.

22:21:24 Jul 22nd 13 - Mr. Binh Ladinh:

There's nothing honorable about death dealers, they bug abuse like no tomorrow.

Also wasn't trolling before, I've killed kingdoms by myself and I'll do it again (currently killing fckers and their massive network of naps on fantasia right now by myself)

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