Forums / In game politics / Death to Admins (Undeleted)

Can we have a legit reason why the thread was deleted?

There was nothing wrong with it. You like to drive players out of the game dont you?

Oh come on, that thread was really proving to be my entertainment for the day:(

Seriously, there was nothing wrong imo.......

Read them.. Nothing wrong

Can you provide a valid reason then Asystole?

I expect this one to be deleted but the fact is it will keep being recreated.

Ban me?

someone else will do it then, ban the world except for Nemesis and MAD and enjoy the game turning into one where the aim of the game is who can whore the best.

Perhaps the whole topic "Death to Admins" warrants deletion in itself? If I were an admin running a game that is supposed to be acceptable for minors I wouldn't tolerate that. It's just common sense.

probly was logged.

Mr. Asystole

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9/30/2007 5:49:25 PMPerhaps the whole topic "Death to Admins" warrants deletion in itself? If I were an admin running a game that is supposed
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All death topics should be deleted then? Its simply a title to grasp attention.

Cant know for sure untill you try :P

OK fiine we will make a new thread called -

'Let Admin Live!- Now fix your mistake'

Then when its deleted we will have this settled.

Oh wait...no we wont

The admin does actually play the game, Asy. ZeTa's played in numerous kds, Zeon, for instance, is one kd hes played in.


Try again, buttercup?

The context wasn't to kill the admin's character in game. There was no mention of the admin playing his own game in the thread.

Nor was there any mention of killing him in RL. You're squirming.

I know you're gaining quite an advantage out of the whole debacle and his poor usage of power, but be honest. The reason the thread was deleted (as was previous ones, on previous occassions) was purely because there's dissent and criticism of him.

You are aware players have been banned purely for criticising the admin, aren't you?

Who's been banned Rock? I'm curious about that. From the forums or in game?

The forums are an add-on to the game, and frankly if I were an admin I wouldn't let everything be posted either. If you were admin for a game would you allow players (who are paying you nothing) say whatever they want about you in your own forums? Would you allow people to curse, swear, insult, etc...? It's supposed to be a game suitable for minors too...keep that in mind.

Sure criticism is fine, but it's the way you criticise that's important. There is positive and negative criticism. The thread had more of the latter than the former.

A mixture of bans. Roxbury was banned completely from the game for 1-2 eras for dissent some time ago. As for forum-bans, theres been a lot more. Devi, Banehallow, etc all instantly jump to mind. A lot of it is covert. Swift bans, then deletions of the "violations" (and I use the word tentatively, really all these "violations" amount to are criticism of  the improper conduct from the admin), and no mentioning of why it was done. Any requests for answers are promptly deleted too, as you can see with the recent thread.

Regardless, the thread shouldn't of been deleted. The posts that broke the rules should of, but not it in its entirety. That is a gross misuse of power, and exactly the kind of misuse that the thread was highlighting.


And as for your comment about allowing people to say whatever they like without paying, from what I recall he has banned some from the forums who gave him donations. And not in the form of ad-clicking, I mean REAL money donations via check.

lol yo this isnt fair ppl. all agains 1 thats just not fair LOL

Ill back u up asy :D,

If i was the admin i also would delete anny topic's whit a offensive meaning to me.
coz The admin created this game and needs to get his respects. And You all just have to be glad he doesnt ask's Money to play this game. So give him some respect will ya. You lot dont even know how mutch time it takes to create sutch a game as this.

We give him respect. But what we won't overlook is gross misuse of power. Favouring one kingdom over another, and insulting them, and giving advantages to certain kingdoms unfairly is not right under ANY circumstances as a game admin. What is the point in playing a game where the major factor influencing your chances of survival, let alone winning, is the personal like or dislike of the admin?

Look at it in a RL scope. I respect my countries leader. But were my countries leader to give benefits to other individuals unfairly (for instance, titles, or money), I would voice my opinion on the matter, no matter how much I respect him.

Were you on the receiving end of this, I'd expect you to feel this way too. But of course, you're able to benefit from this abuse, and as such, are less inclined to defend what is right.

Ok, one single ban from the game. I'd be interested in the other side of the story but I'll take your word.

The reasons for deletions should be common sense. What you think is criticism is just insults. Take this quote from Sun:
"What are you smoking Z_E_T_A? Is this the best you could do for your game? You are not a G_O_D, you are just a person with a small heart."

Now read that over and tell me it's not insulting. What does it add to the discussion?

A better thing to do, would be to write an unbiased retelling of the whole wall event. Put in some pictures, and be honest about what kind of walls DB built. Then make suggestions or debate reasonably as to what the admin should do.

Asystole why do you always ALWAYS make posts to totally change the topic of interest?  If you have nothing intelligent to add just stay out of it.

The fact is Zeta screwed up-  he screwed up royally and should be called on it and if it had happened to any other kingdom they would react the same way.  A deletion of the thread or a ban for anyone is usually Zeta's response when a reaction results from one of his screw ups................

he's banned me before simply for not liking a comment i made about him not fixing real problems in the game-- a post i made in the bugs thread so there are more than one single ban  get over yourself that you think you know all or suck up to zeta in another thread either way your comments arent needed here

Sean made those walls well after the abuse done from your side for the second time and it was done in retaliation again shut up already you have no basis for even commenting as you will never see anything but your single narrowminded one sided view point

He didnt change any scripts to make the wall go there, unlike MAD did. Instead of removing a wall derived through cheating he removed part of another one. He left all other walls that were exactly the same in other places of the map.

I admit I made those walls. I fully expected them to be removed, when people from both sides complained to the admin. But I expected them to be correctly removed. What was done to the Sun Block Wall was an atrocity.

Stop trying to change the topic.

You can't try make me defend a corner that I don't believe in. I'm not defending any cross-walls that completely block off passages. But DBs wall, Sun Block, it didn't completely block it off, and the deletion of a portion of it was unwarranted and unfair, giving an advantage to DB's enemies.



These types of walls are fine. DB had a wall like this and it was unfairly removed. But ZeTa refused to remove any other of these type of walls off Fant. Hence the only reason for it HAS to be admin misuse of power and abuse.

Sean blocked Nem off without scripting, it was wrong

MAD blocked DB into a blocker using a scripted wall going into the city, much worse

Again- Sean's walls were built out of retaliation they were built AFTER mad and/.or Nemesis abused the walls on us for yet a 2nd time the first they built a wall directly on top of our town and the second one well that is still visible since zeta decided to delete our wall instead, but seans walls were a retaliation out of frustration for being screwed over by you guys yet again

I don't think any crosswalls should be allowed. It's simply too powerful and negates a large part of the "visual/geographical" part of the game.

I would take the building of great walls out of the game, they are way more trouble than they are worth. I would have great walls pre-constructed in all map areas that typically "block". Such as the 2 areas south of Holy Sharp in that picture. And Crow's Nest in the picture above.

So if he did not know who had built which wall first he acted blindly?

He should have asked for information...oh wait he didnt have to. He was messaged with the information of what walls were built when and where. And how they affected DB.

Obviously we werent being paranoid and just accusing him of this straight off. The fact we kept trying to tell him it was the MAD wall that blocked it off, we got no reply, but the wall got deleted....our wall, that is the reason we consider this an abuse of power