Forums / In game politics / More Backstabbing By MrFuzz

Nothing new to report here other then what is becoming a frequent in this game.

     Mr.Fuzz, joined our kingdom, farmed up, sent armies into our core left the Kingdom and is now attacking us. This, like the majority of traitors acts,  was completely out of the blue, No notification or anything. This type of behaviour is nothing new to Vu but the weird thing is that you wouldn't have suspected this from someone who actually has kept there era name/reputation in his era history and is a long playing member.

     Here is his Era History. I'm surprised such an old player would do this. I mean, people who appear with no history's that do such a thing isn't exactly shocking. But people, like this, who have history and that have been playing for 10+ eras and do something like this, now THATS something you don't hear of often

   Anyway, I'm just posting this for the informing of the wider VU community about this snake. Not only has he backstabbed the whole kingdom this late in the era, but we have for some time been having a leak of information from our forums. I can almost stay without a shadow of a doubt now that it was him leaking forum information. Don't be fooled by his long history, he's lying backstabbing scum waiting to strike when your most venerable.

It's snakes like Mr.Fuzz who dampen the sprits of VU.

Look how many times he has been killed that is rather shocking for a person who has been playing, for as you said, 10+ eras

I dont remember him being a bad person when we were in Knights of the black and white. He was fairly quiet though.

Path WTF? Well, I don't Know Edd/Kat's History but every KD that Iv come across with him, ranging From Sparta Led By Sanoh to Lighting Dust Lead by Zondervan and a RANGE of other Kingdoms In between lead by a VARIRTY of rulers. I and I'm VERY sure the rulers can also testify that Edd has always been an outstanding loyal player. And Trust me, We've come across each other quite a bit.

Anyhow, It's funny you use this thread to take shots  at me about how this should be a regular occurrence because I consort with traitors and all. It's pathetic actually, to say one should be betrayed because he a friendly with alot of member of the VU community (is responsible for training many upcoming new players aswell) who makes friends with just about everyone and is called upon to mediate situations. Im sure Im friends with people who have shady pasts, but calling on me to be betrayed because I am friendly with everyone until I seen firsthand proof of their actions is pretty pathetic on your part.

AS for edd, Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, BUT all I know is that I've been with him a lot, mainly after era 34, and from there, he has never been known to do t this kind of thing. Also, This thread is not about edd, so Path, please just stop.

And to Samual

LOL your SOO right.

Maybe he resorted to such actions because he realized the only way he could possibly gain any cities is to snake his allies while their backs are turned.

Sorra, you've been in kingdoms with Kat/Edd both before, and after he betrayed Angels.  I rechecked history by the way, it was Era 33.  I'm not going to go in depth in research here, but id say youve been with him ~75% of all ages?

I'm not sure what you are trying to say in his defense.  He committed the same act and you've gladly partnered with him before and after the fact.  So yes, you probably shouldn't be surprised if this type of stuff happens, because that is the type of people you hang with.

This happened to me exactly once, in my first age.  Never since.  Why? Because I don't associate with that type of person.  It's not a shot at you so much as words of advice or perhaps a revelation about the type of people you play with. 


PS- I never said "you should be betrayed" or whatever crap you wrote in your above post.  That is just your poor reading comprehension showing through.  I said you should expect it is all.  However, I will take your "pathetic" remark as a compliment.

I am not here to cause arguments or stand up for either one of you, but I have to say that the past is the past so whatever happened between you two, as I have not gone into major interest of reading what happened should in this case stay there really. Life is to short, so do you really want to spend it holding grudges, especially against someone you don't even know across the internet on a game. So guys if we can just have a mutual friendship between each other, this means being nice to each other then I am sure the forums would be a lot more inviting to read. 

I fought against Girl Power that era I seem to remember

Wait I remember that era. It was me and Uroril that faced Girl Power. Man that was a crazy era.

Well I would have to disagree with what you just said, I do read people's history and take caution while playing with them but I do still give them a chance. If I am convinced they will play fair, then that does not mean I fail to understand a persons previous treacherous behaviour it just means I have room to give people a second chance. 

I am no stranger to forgiveness, however I am not foolish enough to forgive and forget just because some arbitrary amount of days has passed.  While Kat has shown shame over his actions by changing his name, Kat has never shown any remorse for his actions or made an apology.  But, to be quite honest, even if he did I don't think that would change things for me.   As you said yourself, its an internet game, not real life.  Things are more fun when you have enemies. 

Mr. Path i wish you luck and fortune in the future... may others hospitality treat you with such favor.

@Path

No Path, Your way of, I haven't played nearly 75% of my eras with Edd.

Also, What In Edd's defence is that he hasn't acted in the way you described him acting in any of the other Kingdoms he's been with me in, Not to mention I haven't meet a person so far who has said/talked bad about Edd in the sense your saying. I, and  bunch of leaders along with players spanning a variety of KD's using historical/game records can attest to Edd's Allegiance. If you couldn't understand what I blatantly said in Edd's defence then I believe YOUR the one with the poor reading comprehension son.

 So yes, you probably shouldn't be surprised if this type of stuff happens, because that is the type of people you hang with.

Again, Poor reading comprehension this time coupled with very poor understanding of the situation. Mr.Fuzz is not a friend, I have never heard of or interacted with Mr. Fuzz in past eras. So stop trying to make it seem that I've been backstabbed by people I regularly hang around with.

As for you advice, thank you very much path but I don't need it. Iv been around quite a long time, Much longer then my history states. Only few people in this game have been actively around longer then I have and are still active. I have never been betrayed by a close friend because I know how to pick friends.

 From what I Judge edd's personality to be, I would say it is highly unlikely that he did this "for no reason". Yes, If he did leave the KD and attack, that isn't right, however, I HEAVILY doubt that edd just decided for NO REASON WHAT SO EVER to leave the KD and attack,(at that, I bet it was a really serious reason) Or that he planned the leaving and attacking his host KD early on during his joining. Me and Edd have gotten into alot of fights over the eras resulting in us saying some nasty things to each other, even during times when he was in My Kingdom. That being said, he never left and always stuck it out to the end.I never saw a change in his performance or professionalism during those times. However, this little snake named Mr.Fuzz has left and attacked his host KD from behind for no reason what so ever, and what's worse, Judging by his troops movements and where they were prior to his leaving shows that he actively planned this. Not to mention the timing of it, only a couple days left.

And yes, It may be an Internet game where its fun to have enemies (I agree with you there), But I will tell you that its NOT fun having your core destroyed a couple days before Era end by a snake. I do have plenty of people I do not get along with in this game and activlyseek to fight every time we are on the same map, however, none of those people who I consider rivals/enemies have resulted from them snaking me. Yes, most of them have had HUGE fights with me, but none of them have snaked me.

Snaking like this is the ultimate sin when it comes to VU.

Sir Teirdel Report 18:54:53 May 11th 10

Path i would be more than happy to take in most people. Samual among them, ive played with him before and even though he can be a pain in the neck when it came down to it we got along just fine. Mind you we didnt treat each other real well but hell we made do in Agenda. If you ask me there are times you need people like him that question the small things.   Also i would like to know when forgiving someone was deemed a weakness. Just curious it seems most of VU has this perspective on things. Though when asked in another formatt they reply differently. it is okay to be cautious i understand that as well, i understand that. but bring up things that happened long ago on another issue entirely is simply, pointless. it leads to (thank god not this one.. yet) heated arguments. Path if you and sorra want to duke it out feel free to make a misc forum post for it. Im sure most of Vu would agree it is a post worth the time it would take to read it. Same goes for you especially Sorra, your a good friend and you know ill support you. Hence my obvious bias. However it is what it is. Dont reply to his post if need be. You are fanning flames that do not need it. Good luck boys.

When you give way too many chances to the person.

*Glares at Kath*

I have given him way too many chances.

Sir Sorra I regret to inform you that the events are taking place in your kingdom are justice from era's before.

Hmm you make an excellent point Sun Jian. Ill keep that peice of advice close to me.

Though the ability to forgive, ignorance of youth? or wisdom of the elder?

Was just wondering TBL... I know more about Kath than Kat so... Yea, just checking ;)

poor bastard...

Also i would like to know when forgiving someone was deemed a weakness <---- because in Vu forgiving a known backstabber or anyone who has betrayed a kd can lead to your entire era and weeks of gameplay down the pan for no reason other then you took a chance on someone who was always likely to screw you over :) forgiving backstabbers is a weakness. the more people who shun them the less of them there are :D

Yeah I'm depressed that Fuzz actually played in BoW... oh well at least he left.  Sorry Sorra, did you kill him though?

Oh, but, but, Have some forgiveness in your heart...let him go! : (

You meanies are holding grudges.  Ancient history I say.

And regarding Kat, you can't say he has "nothing to do with (this)".  Considering this is his signature move, I consider him germane to the discussion.

The above > What Fuzz Did.

Also

Mr. Pesto Report 21:24:53 May 11th 10	poor bastard...
Mr. Sun Jian of Report 21:41:19 May 11th 10	For me???

He was talking about Fuzz.

I never attacked you i merely reclaimed my own cities that u took from me! sure i atatcked you guys but my army was too strong so i suicided on you guys and i clrealy sended messages saying what i was going to do. And i told you guys to kill me because i couldn;t resign because my real name was incorrect apparently.I had friends in preds whom i wanted to give my cities because they were nice to me.

well path is right for sure about one thing "Edd" your an idiot, you and Knigh should join a club together.

First you say "i never attacked Angels" Angels being the kd we were in
Then you say "sure i atatcked you guys"

: / 

I probably would have respected you more if you just continued to lie and deny. 

Furthermore, you weren't "reclaiming" anything.  I woke up the morning after it happened, not knowing what had happened at all the night before and my mine city had been taken.  I'm pretty sure you hit Stalin's mine as well.

Anyhow Sorra, there you go.  That is the mentality you are working with.  If you want to know why Fuzz did what he did, ask Kat.  What you will find is that people like this always have some excuse and fabricate a lie so they can think of themselves as justified.  Its ironic, but most traitors don't like to think of themselves that way and will do anything they can to convince themselves they aren't one.

Sorra your just helping add to the discussion. Keep topic on about fuzz. Then sorra contact an admin 2 a) lock thread or b) remove all post not in its agenda.