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Riverjumping | ||||
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If you don't know how to river jump, look at Dionysus ready to do it in the North of Radar! | ||||
Omg not again.......here we go with the riverjumping bs..... Yeah go ahead and look everyone, he's jumping into our core, omg we're all doomed..... and after witnessing in another thread (http://visual-utopia.com/forum.asp?forum=4&topicID=37547&replyes=39) a zeon member trying the same tactic, i find it funny how you guys keep bringing this up..... | ||||
That is not very informative. Not everyone has vision there and not everyone is on Fantasia. Its easier to post a picture of it: | ||||
But didn't. Did they? | ||||
HaHa, Look out Carnage, I am going to jump into your core and take over your cities just like Condihino. Oh wait, already been done. Guess I will pass up on that. | ||||
And by the way, don't forget to mention that I am jumping to take care of any army that snuck past a blocker that should have blocked. I guess moving part way onto a river tile to jump is bad, but moving part way onto a river tile to pass a blocker is just good strategy. | ||||
"I guess moving part way onto a river tile to jump is bad, but moving
part way onto a river tile to pass a blocker is just good strategy." | ||||
hey its not our fault that this blocker is a little misplaced. We only exploit your fault .... | ||||
ok. river jump is complete. Did someone get screenshots? For posterity? | ||||
Riverjumping is a cheap strategy, but its been done A LOT and will keep happening, so be prepared to deal with it.. | ||||
I jumped back into our area, not into Zeon teritory. Zeon snuck around a blocker that I guess did not fully block the river. | ||||
This era Zeon has warred Carnage, PKS, Legacy, DB, and Heaven's Veangance, and taken plunder from them all, except perhaps Carnage. (have I forgotten anyone?) So a farming kingdom? Not really. | ||||
Yeah it's funny they bring it up when the jump was to go back INTO Carnage area, not into Zeon/PKS/Carnage. (it's a bit disputed atm =P ) Trying to tell me KD's with huge areas don't set up common jumps in their own lands to save ticks to the other side? This really is no different. | ||||
@ Rommel: So it is okay for you to move over a river tile, but not okay for 2 legitimately placed units to merge. Yes, it is totally our fault not to see that coming. And it is tit-for-tat, so we are not complaining, just still wondering why is this still an issue. (I prefer the other way round, tat-for-tit, for obvious reasons). | ||||
@ Lord Eleutherios Nahh i m ok with riverjumping. Its possible ..its part of the game and i would use it too. But since Zeon doctrine dictates not to use riverjumping i wont do it. If ya got riverjumped into the core u have done something wrong ( ignored the scouts ( except for the halfers .. thats a nuisance) or build a city too close a river). These things should never happen and if yes ... well then .. the next time the kingdom should pay more attention to it. just my 2 cents ... Oh and with your blocker .. move away the armies defending it and we will raze it so that you can build a new one ... i promise :-D
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your blocker just doesn't block, it is in a bad position, nothing wrong about that. | ||||
river jump !!! everyone lets riverjump ;P | ||||
Add PHI to the happy jumper list. Isnt that right zerocool? To think you would use exactly the same tactics you flamed DB for...tsk tsk | ||||
LGC and Carnage realy lick river jumping. And also Phi. | ||||
Lol Riverjump is tactics not cheating... Delete this post... | ||||
If we are gonna have a list LEGACY WILL BE TOP OF IT!! | ||||
i think BoW liked to river jump too | ||||
"Mr. Durza The Destroyer | ||||
LGC rarely river jumps, Durza. We did it a few times last round because PHI (our supposed "ally") blockaded us from our enemy (BoW) by inviting you to their core, then built walls between us and you as our armies approached. Otherwise we have no real use for it. | ||||
Letting BoW out to attack us while locking you ALLIES out, thus preventing retaliation...you vould see where that forced our hands after a few days.
Alternative would have been to simply raze your blocker, would PHI have prefered that? | ||||
I asked the Admin, and he said that it was a tactic... | ||||
BoW didnt riverjump in the same sense of the terms, never to get troops across the river, as a last resort, we would drop walls and set them up as armories, or a scout drop point, never to shift troops into an area, different, yet the same. Not saying its not bad, so lets not get too flamey everyone. I say we just solve this and set up a ferry system..... | ||||
I agree with Karac. | ||||
what's the fuss with riverjumping? i have tried mountain jumping and nobody gives a damn about it | ||||
Is it possible to great wall jump? How comes rivers get all the attention? | ||||
It is possible Bruto. Please take Great Wall Jumping 101 with Professor Drakos. He'll be more than happy to teach you that ineffective tactic. Otherwise, I love Riverjumping threads. :-D | ||||
"47 doesn't like Riverjumping threads..." "Die thread!", said Agent 47 | ||||
*Fizban casts fireball on Agent 47* Die Hitman, die! | ||||
*47 runs like hell and escapes the blast
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River jumping.. | ||||
well said kland | ||||
Sad your always the loser Kland :( | ||||
Loser? When has Kland lost? Appears to be doing pretty good considering how the opponents decided to fight..... | ||||
And fizban, great wall jumping isnt ineffective, can actually work quite well. Taken more than my fair share of cities by dropping a great wall armory in someones core. | ||||
"Appears to be doing pretty good considering how the opponents decided to fight....." | ||||
What's riverjumping and how do you do it? | ||||
Riverjumping is merging two armies that are on different sides of a river. The tactic is used to get large armies into a enemies core by trying to send scouts or smaller armies to the other side. Also its nice for fast travel. It can be combined by building a wall on the other side of the river. You can then create scouts and merge your big army to the other side to spread havoc. All you have to do is find a good spot where you can get both armies close enough for a merge. | ||||
Thanks.......though I don't understand why all of this commotion? I mean armies crossed rivers and stuff like that so why would it be different here. | ||||
NAP breaker lol! Funny, another dimwitted player. God, Carnage is so funny. #1 kingdom, fighting a kd 35% of them, riverjumping, lol, great tactics oh honorable one...... | ||||
Its hard to defend whole rivers instead of a few points (Though its not that hard). Your not supposed to be able to do it, but Zeta acknowledged the bug and allowed the use for it. Some Kingdoms see it as a tactic and see nothing wrong in using it (Carnage for example) Some see it as bug and are of the opinion such things shouldn't be used. The commotion is due that difference | ||||
@Karac: I find it a appropriate term to indicate someone that doesn't honour their own NAPs. At least we in Carnage don't break NAPs. As said in my previous post, Carnage sees nothing wrong with using such tactics. We keep to our word. That is what makes us honourable. Not a thing I can say about Red Hand. | ||||
Lord Hermes, Please take the propaganda elsewhere. We're immune to
Goebbels-speak. Red Hand did not break any Naps. What happened was a
classic case of two kd's with a Nap ending up on opposing sides of a
much bigger war involving many others. We'd also napped Jester as well
as Falcons, remember? So when we started receiving messages blaming us
for all and sundry, the Nap with Falcons was already broken in
spirit...and not by us. What followed was the usual legal business of
serving notice, etc. | ||||
Please. When you make a NAP then you should keep to the terms. That you NAP-ed Jesters is not my problem. You didn't keep to the NAP-terms. Thus your broke it. Simple as that. | ||||
Keep to the terms? To which kingdom? As was stated there was a NAP in place with two kingdoms..... so, what we keep to the NAP that benefits Carnage the most? Think not. The decision was made as a kingdom, some opposed the act, some for it, in the end, a decision was made. We are sorry that we did not ask permission from our obvious parents of Carnage. I apologize, please, ground me for a week, take away my allowance, do what ya need to, oh, yeah, go ahead, do the 'tactical' riverjumping, its ok, ive seen worse in the game. Just do not dare to call us dishonourable when YOUR kingdom had to resort to a childish, pathetic, and oh but sorry, still 'legal' move (keep telling yourself that so you can sleep). As you stated, Zeta admits its a bug, well when I signed up, I remember clicking a little box stating that if i found a BUG i would REPORT IT and NOT ABUSE IT...... oh, so wait, just because its a bug thats not fixed, you still abuse it, alright go ahead and do so, as i stated before Mr. Honorable......
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didnt you come from BoW? which makes your views on honour and river jumping kinda pointless?
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