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I guess the rumors where right ... This betrayal Newbie kingdom has started to back stab us after all we have done for them. Never ever will their deed be forgotten!

It started that we offered their small kingdom a MAP so they could survive, kinda out of pitty and that their leader was friendly and nice towards us. But now all off the biggest nubs inside BHR started attacking the kingdom of Destiny. This is so lame, it is a grossfull deed.

Do not trust that 'kingdom', you can't call it a kingdom really, a gathering of the lamest backstabbers in VU perhaps? I don't know where their leader is, I thought he was a loyal and respectful person?

yes, I but we couldn't look into the future now eh :-)

Even though you are attacking us with thousands of soldiers I feel sorry for you, I know how it feels to get stabbed in the back by somebody you thought you trusted

Well, I guess maybe you should hear both sides of the story eh?  Though I doubt anything I say here will change this situation, since most people who play this game are too hard-headed to think that maybe there is another way of looking at things and maybe the way they saw it is not correct.  Please keep this in mind as you read the following, it really is quite simple:

The kingdom of Shen An Calhar has waged a personal war against Mr. Dalion the Brave because of some cities that were taken and not returned.  This is a clear and defined war between us and him not spilling into the rest of the Kingdom.  Somewhere along the way, people in our Kingdom got the idea that we were going to war with the entire kingdom and therefore started to attack everyone.  This was a huge mis-understanding on our part because of a lack of clear and concise communication.  The order to stand down and return all cities has been given and they will be followed to the entire kingdom as stated here. 

We consider Destiny to be one of our strongest allies in this game and have no interest in "backstabbing" our friends.

There, now thats the entire situation, as I said, not too complicated, just blown out of proportion.  If you still think we are lying, cheating, backstabber's, then so-be-it.  You are entitled to your opinion whether your opinion is based on the facts or not.  Make of this what you wish, but when it all comes down to it, those are the facts, that is what really happened.

Ender,
Vice of Shen An Calhar

First off, we had no MAP, we had a CF, 2 very different things.  We were doing nothing offensively until we saw that Music was moving multiple corps in our direction.  The only magic he cast on you guys was EiTs' to find out exactly what we would be up against if you decided to break our CF and attack.

Secondly, the only messages I ever got were from one of your members giving me crap for something I didn't fully comprehend and then the threats of war went back and forth.  None of our magic spells would have hapened had you not provoked us.  I have played against Music in Fantasia several times and I know you guys to be a pain in the butt because of your own backstabbing a few eras back.  If you wanna blame it on someone, then blame it on me, because I was the one who after getting crap from your members, and seeing you move troops into our area, pushed for a war on behalf of our kingdom.  You brought that war upon yourself, and at no point was it established that you would be able to attack our player. 

And yes, it is a similar situation however, from my understanding, this war has been agreed to on both sides, unlike your war which was just started by you.  You cant come into a world, spawn next to a kingdom, demand that we help you, establish relations, then move troops in provoking our eits' and declare war on one of our members.  You were asking too much and the easiest way out was to kill you, so we did, and I have no ill feelings about that.

I havn't bothered to read all of this, but ya......trust Music........ya.....they would know EVERYTHING about backstabbing and cheating........yup trut them at your own risk....

omg Ender, I cannot even believe you have the balls trying to defend what your kingdom has done? We protected you guys and treated you like our sister kingdom ... Why wasn't I aware that Dalion has token cities from you guys? We had a MAP for god sake! You just don't break that like woop ... Everythime one of you guys started backstabbing our kingdom again, did we warred you guys? no we had a conversation with your king and he acted like he should in a political way.
Like trying to behold peace and give a offer to repay the damage!

Don't give me that bull man! You obviously don't know what you are speaking off ... Hearing it from your side? Complete BULLCRAP!

I was wondering the same ... untill suddenly 2 or 3 retards from Shen an calhar started attacking us

oh first mr. rimta tok my city then dalion :D

:D

"it so happened to be Rimatas's ok so he'll want it back"

i think he is mr. rimtas :D:D:D

I dont know what to say.  So many accusations against me.  I didnt attack anyone from your Kingdom, Althor.  And if I did, I wasnt aware we had an MAP at the time.  If one of your members had asked for the city back, it would have been given back.  The only message I recieved from Rimtas said this I believe, seeing as I deleted it (im retarded)

it was my city, but whatever

Thats all I remember getting.  I wouldnt steal cities from people who are my allies.  Thats all I've got to say.

Well seeing how things have been going with a particular two people whom Swan and I have personal grevencies with. This whole matter should be quite taken care of if not to the end we all are requiring to one we can all start to accept. 2 of the 3 are now marked for death by all DSY and BRH members. And if I don't hear anything from the 3rd soon he might as well say his prayers as well.

  I know Swan but there was a point where you insinuated that we were all just siting on our hunches letting it happen and I took offence and well you've read it so need I say more. I'm sorry if I went off the deep end a bit there but Ender is right, with all the info we had everything was being handled correctly until all of a sudden we had a crap shoot and all hell broke loose. A matter between two people that should have needed clearence to do anything that they did after personal talks failed went strait to trowing punches before anyone in the top knew what happened. Yeah I can see now that I probably should have said somthing like oh by the way I've been told so and so took a city and hasn't given it back, but I was hoping that I was working with mature individuals, well that perception is no longer exsistant and is being rectified. Again sorry of flip'n off the handle there but like I said I do take offense somtimes.

 In anycase for those in music don't start with me on who did what because your last vice that I talked too mr Bandallow, was and I supose still is a real ass. He knew our agreement about the problem and he went directly against it, not to mention he didn't wait the 48hrs that was required before attacking on our C*beep*reement after we had voted and properly declared war on your kd. If it hadn't been that I deleated the messages I had from him once he was dead I'd show it too you but one can only scroll through so much mail before one tires of it especially when a lot of them say dead.

Well I normally do but when half of them are questions about things that no longer exsist or have been forgotten by half the world, or those who do/did care are dead I somtimes end up getting sick of trying to find those people are still responding to when their at the bottom of the pile lol. Also I believe the conversations in the letters do contain both sides of the conversation so you might want to check on that I know I am.

Russia remained neutral.

Anyways, I'd have to vote in favour of Shen, thier story is a little more convincing, though we are not lawless pirates! We need to solve these things in a LON court, not a battlefield.

And, I know there is only like 19h left in the game, but why is Destiny attacking Shen An Calhar in the south near Gilly iii and Endless City?  I know this is last minute diplomacy, but be forwarned that Russian will mobolize if the war gets any closer to Russia's national border.

I believe Rand Althor....

why?