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You can resign with 1 city. Also he resigned and left the city full of troops so no one could take it, specifically our enemy you, EM. Only after you guys EQ our members city did he take it upon himself to go prep a city that if you had intel on would probably be a waste of time. its actually hilarious if you knew it all but you'd have to be there kinda thing to get it. 

i didn't say it was okay, i was just clarifying a few things. Yeah it was hilarious to see it be converted. interesting to say the least

you did not specifically say it was ok. You did not say it wasn't. It does appear as though you're justifying it by saying its a waste of time anyways and that he's taking it because he got EQ'd.

justifying it would make it pretty clear to everyone that it's considered ok. well, makes it clear to me anyways. Perhaps I'm wrong, either way, lets try to wrap up this era. we need a victor 

you did not specifically say it was ok. You did not say it wasn't. It does appear as though you're justifying it by saying its a waste of time anyways and that he's taking it because he got EQ'd.

so productive to the conversation. 

Dark Spawn:

Why leave the city full of troops and not wreck and quit? Your leader approves of it I guess? At least we are on same page. There will always be cheaters in VU, its good to know who they are.

Just to let you know there isnt anything wrong with restarting. Ya all my farmers became swordsman and I new they would. I did that so you guys didnt teleport it out and try to take it over. It was only 1.5 million Defensive Raw. If you didnt want me to restart then maybe you shouldnt have taken my last city up north. Thats all on you, :-P - But there isnt anything wrong with starting over as if there was Zeta would code it where you can restart. 

To spy? What do you mean?

feeding... Nothing wrong with attacking natives, The only thing I would say is making a city then restarting and taking it over for yourself. Now that is feeding. But if you think its against the rules to restart and leaving a city to the natives then maybe Zeta should change the very simple and basic code to auto delete all the cities as they do with the armies. So until he does that change there is nothing wrong with it. 

You literally were trying to build in an enemy core while you're only defense was the 50% rule... 

Dark Spawn:

To spy? What do you mean?

If you mean the rage outburst by Konstant era?

I was semi active orc and he was highly active halfer and he demanded  me to kill his scout so he can attack me. Problem was ai could not build as fast as active halfer. Thought that era showed what kind of person Konstant was, but I am glad me having 50% rule also stayed in memory so that people might remember this era Pesti members as feeders.

Spartan Murderous Intent:

Dark Spawn:

Why leave the city full of troops and not wreck and quit? Your leader approves of it I guess? At least we are on same page. There will always be cheaters in VU, its good to know who they are.

Weren't you one of the guys that tried to use the 50% rule to spy one era? Weren't you also one of the guys who quit mid era and let 2 of your team mates take your cities? Does it not count since you all lost anyway?

If Zeta cared even a little bit, we likely wouldn't even be having this conversation because he'd have addressed the communities concerns long ago. Since that's not the case, we the players need to try to respect eachother and play fairly, that's really all there is to it. 

from the perspective of the person who resigned, what should they have done differently- wait til they could afford to wreck all their land despite not wanting to play?

Feeding 1 player in the kd, though a good tactic, will ruin the game. 

Why are you trashing Konstant? It's so tiresome hearing this type of talk when I can't think of anyone who did more positive for the community since I started playing. You mean the guy that brought together 3/4ths of the community into a discord, organized everyone to stop the cheaters on Fantasia for good, taught countless players how to play the game, and organized all the most useful information into one place so we could access it easily? If he did indeed have a momentary lapse in judgement, that doesn't erase everything else he did. Just stop with this talk man. This game would be a nightmare to play if it wasn't for all the resources him and many others put together for all of us to use.

My bad that you expected me to sit on a 90k city until I could do everything in it. Ya that's not going to happen. That would have taken almost a week to get those funds and then what's to say I'd last that long. So I did what any normal person does. Restart. 

I didn't start this thread and yes I'm going to defend what I did. Did I tell anyone to take the city? Nope. It was a farming city with over 800k farmers in it. Funny to see them go crazy and grab swords. 

Also saying it would take you a week to resign is absurd, i have over 300k land and it only costs me 300 gold to demo a building. EVEN if somehow your demo cost was the same, 300 gold x 90k buildings is just over 27 mil which would take you around  90 ticks 3.7 days to get and that doesnt count nativing food, tree and stone.  But at only 90k builds your demo cost would have been considerably less. 

Just say you didnt think about it and you didnt think it was an issue. Even so the "issue" isnt you restarting it, it's that another player in your kingdom came along and took it boosting their economy, even if it all farms or whatever those peasants pay taxes and its probably at least an extra 150k a tick if not more. There are plenty of ways this could have been resolved without even needing to have a discussion about feeding.

In no particular order:

1. Communicate with EM, I hazard a guess if Sprout reached out to EM and said "hey this person is resigning, can we agree to CF with the native peoples, no one will touch it" they would have agreed. then if someone breaks it, there's no grey area, there were terms. they were broken. 

2. I'm an orc that was at peace with Pesti at the time of the restart, I could have been asked to raze the city (no spoils) so Clout could make a full restart without leaving anything behind. 

3. Wait less than 3 days gathering income to demo. 

Also it's insane to me how impossible it is for this community to talk with each other lmao. Y'all gotta get it together, we're all playing the same game, making sure the game is fun and fair for everyone should be a priority. 

There's a lot of things that should be coded into the game. That isn't going to happen, so again it's up to the players to develop some etiquette.