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attack them...kill them...make them join you Naerey :P

Nobody cares how large kingdoms are. Top kingdom size is regulated by the ability to organize and for most 25 players is as high while keeping max efficiency. If they can organize 30+ members more power to them.

Ohh vices that actually work for a living! I want some of those, I have to do all the work myself around here :S

Seriously, it's rather annoying to have some 30 member kingdoms...

23 < 30

But I agree, it is difficult to control a large KD.

For some kingdoms, those totals do not reflect how many will be there for next era. In some cases, there are current members who will be leaving vu for a bit due to rl issues or they have decided to go somewhere else, etc...

Naeray's first era, and he wants to start a flame wars with the MASTERS OF FLAME!!! I don't think this is going to end up good on his resume.

Naerey's first era? check ur facts.

sloth, that brilliant! why didnt anyone think of this before?!?!?1

I really think Naerey has the wrong end of the stick here. Both Zeon and Music do a hell of a lot to encourage and help new blood, though they do trim down for Fant again when an era starts. That was my situation middle last era, a hopeless case "human" with rainbow everything. Well, Music took me in. Had it been this era on Nirvana, maybe Zeon would have. Question of luck and starting position. So sure, some kd's get a bit bloated in the process, but then what do you expect people like me to have done? Stayed forever with Dark Riders?

Arguing about whether there should be a limit of 20 or maybe 15 members on Fant only....now maybe that's worth discussing... =)

I saw him take out the trash the other night and sweep the floor... course i think that's cause he broke Cobra's gravy boat that went with his expensive china and didn't want him to know. I was peeking down the stairs till Q told me to get back to bed.

Sloth needs a spanking XD for

"I recommend a maximum cap of 3 players per Kingdom. That should solve everything."


Anyway, as long as the kingdom isn't the entire map, it could work for them, they will still be kicked by top kingdoms in fantasia the era after...a number of eras ago I was in a kingdom called Dragon Masters, and we had 50+ members, still only our explorers did well (I was mage at that point I think). So really the numbers don't make such a big different. Ofcourse, killing a kingdom with many members should give you more colonies when doing the take overs :P

"well this is nothing new. i saw zeon having 50 members last era of sparker and dark riders (i forgot the era and wolrd ;p) had 70 members or something.
id rather see these large kingdoms than the three player kingdom that we had last era 19. it was a disaster."

We (Zeon) didn't exist last era? (we were still One & Only back then...)

My kingdom only had 8 members.. But all of em left when we were attacked by Predetors (except for 3)  so now we gotta start recruiting again in mantrax

:(

Dear Mr. Hemmer,
I would love to tell you, that I too, know that 23 is closer to 20 than 30! I'm sure you know the maths too.
I've played for a few eras, but not for that long... but sure, it's a long while..

Anyways, my small kingdom is made up of, as you said, 5 members. Me, a veteran player, Din, who is playing his 3nd era, Karablier plays his 2nd era, and the other two are first timers. So, gee, it's a 40% new players, innit? And even 60% if you consider "new players" those that play 2nd era as well.
Now, I make a point of not recruiting every single person I meet, unless they ask to, and then we decide.
Bigger kingdoms are better for this game? Really? How? Sure, you've got much less enemies.... (~_~;)

I couldn't understand the last sentence, because of those *beeps*, but I guess you meant "Seriously, go rest yourself and lead a kingdom with 20 palyers in it after".
I'd follow your suggestion, but then again, my "later" won't be very active, and if you had already read, I'm making the Fighting Farmers Society (ffs!), would you like to join?

lots of love, ( ^.^)
 -- King NaeRey

Btw Mr. Hemmer, there's more than one way to help new players...
One of those is not to get pissed too easy...
Another is to post Guides..

And come on. How many new players will read the guide when just starting to play? They'll just do things that are 'bad'. They'll build rainbows.. Get bored because some bully takes them over, because he does know how to play.


Btw, I usually have a sense of humour.. It's just that posts like these piss me off.

Now, I make a point of not recruiting every single person I meet, unless they ask to, and then we decide.
Bigger kingdoms are better for this game? Really? How? Sure, you've got much less enemies.... (~_~;)

I'm in Luna Wolves, and in no way did we go around recruiting every person we've met.  Infact we only invited about 10 people, which was when there was only 8-10 people in our kingdom.  Of those 10 about 6 joined.  Every other person in our kingdom has asked to join us.  Also we haven't accepted all of the aps, infact we've turned down about 20-25 people.

As for less enemies, we're currently at war with 6 kingdoms.  It was 9 at one point but 3 of them have disbanded.  We currently have 2 NAPs, one is a kingdom with just 1 member, basically because I thought he was a pretty cool person from chatting w/ him. The other is with a kingdom that we could probably wipe out in a couple days if we wanted.  However, I like their kingdom and have known them to be honorable and good players from the past.

Sure our kingdom is large and not nearly as organized as it could be.  However, it's been a fun getting to know the active ones and at the end of the era I'll pick 15-20 of them when I remake LW and take over as leader.

I guess what I'm getting at is we haven't had an easier time due to the amount of players.  About half of them are inactive or aren't able to contribute much of anything anyway.  If anything it's made it more challenging for us as being in the #1 spot and having this many players has made us a target. 

Thardin.. Are Luna Wolves moving to mantrax or fantasia next era?

Cuz if yuo guys are moving to mantrax i want to fight you guys :D

Quote Spoon(aka Hemmer):"And come on. How many new players will read the guide when just starting to play? They'll just do things that are 'bad'. They'll build rainbows.. Get bored because some bully takes them over, because he does know how to play."

Agreed. I was pretty much hopeless until I joined music. I learned everything I know from Hemmer and his Vices. I didn't even find all these guides and stuff until he got me active on the kd forums.

*stupid people*, didn't use any bad language in their lol.