Don't do that MVW.  I was just sending Ryan a new asshat message so he doesn't miss me too much :) I'll behave  (even if it is less fun to do so)

"After the way you've behaved over this whole mess, i don't consider you a 'decent person', either. I'ver put in 500% trying to clean up Dark over the last 3 weeks and all i get is crap and childish responses from people like you. Who knows why i'm bothering."

So you have acted all mature and only done right?

I dont gat much bad to say about you expect some childish and unrasjonell comments, and the fact that we dont agree on alot of things.

Prised is the guy that is causing trouble for Rebirth, from day one. He dont make sense at all, EVERYTIME he writes a message, i cant actually think of 1 time he has NOT wrote a lie, exacuragion or a offensive message/post. discussing things with him can only cause frustration cause he ignore everything that he cant or wont replay to.

and i have no idea why he is not even trying to change this. once again im not mentioning names, but many past members and members that are still in Dark agrees with me.

discussing with Prised is like talking to a wall that falls over you.

look here: "as usual you make stuff up" what in the world did i make up?

 "If we were going to organise an attack on you I wouldnt have moved my 15k nazz army out of your core"

you dont need to organize anything, cause you allready have tons of troops right outside of our core. and i was figuring LLL tries to start a war since he is going crazy on our cities.

"and its funny that you are complaining 1-here be dark was lll's city, he gave it to Vapour the backstabber who gave it to you and you used it to help the losers stay safe after they hit us"

Again, here is something i have explaned before and instead of replaying directly to my message, he ignores it and brings it up at a later stage. that "here bedark" city was traded against one of your cities(it might be the blocker right next to it that gat traded, but that one is also taken by LLL so its the same thing with that), and yes Vapor was the one to take controll of it. when he left, Ben offered the city to me, and i said no we would'nt take it. sadly one of our members didnt get the message and took it. i guess we messed up on the communication there, but it was not intended. that is not a good reason to suddently take 3 of our blockers without permission, and i have no idea why you are defending him when he doesnt even replay to you or any of the other leaders in Dark (and me).

"frankly I guess we can use those two cities as comp for your douchebaggery."

i believe that compansation is agreed by 2 parties, and we did not agree. LLL took not 2 cities, he took 3 and has closed the blocker so we have to use 15 ticks to get a around with a 50 k army. you have allready receved your comp.

" the fact that we had to TAKE our cities back shows exactly how honourable you are, and the fact that you razed them shows even more."

it was never a part of the deal, so why in the world should we give them to you? if u wanted them,  you could atleast asked. i have no idea why you are switching around, and you clearly not speak on behalf of Dark, cause they have said that LLL did wrong and that they have not got in touch with them.

and those were not your cities, those were Rebirth cities. if this is how you want it, then discuss it with your leaders, then we can talk about it. and if you want the former Dark cities back, then we want back our mine/blocker that we traded for a Dark blocker.

those two cities we razed, we had allready informed your leader that we have a deal with Vapor about either not letting Dark have them back or razing them. we had to do our part of the deal and razed 1 of the cities, cause the other one was allready razed.

haha

"So you have acted all mature and only done right?"

I never said i had, i was merely responding to your comment that the only decent person left in Dark was Nola. My actions or comments were more or less direct responses and reflections of the way you behaved or spoke to/about Dark in general. Seems to me we think about the same of each other. To be honest, if all this crap had been sorted in game via messages, i don't think we'd have quite the amount of snarky comments, whingeing and problems that we did. The forums seem to have inflamed situations really.

Also, to clear things up - We never had a deal about the whole Grave having ex-Dark cities as you refused to speak to me about it, despite being told that i was the one to talk to in Nola's absence.

As far as this latest incident goes.. I'm with Nola there, just about had enough of it all and can't bloody wait for the era to end so i can wake up just ONE day without some new ridiculous dramatic situation unfolding.

"My actions or comments were more or less direct responses and reflections of the way you behaved or spoke to/about Dark in general."

lol, thats funny cause i reacted in the same way as Prised talked to me and Rebirth:P and was not directed at you as individual:P

"The forums seem to have inflamed situations really."

Its nice to agree on something:P

"Also, to clear things up - We never had a deal about the whole Grave having ex-Dark cities as you refused to speak to me about it, despite being told that i was the one to talk to in Nola's absence."

Here you lose me. who is Grave? and Nola's abesence has not been for more then 1 day, so everytime i was thinking about taking this the matter to someone else i have gat a response from Nola. but i cant remember refusing to answar u anything?

"As far as this latest incident goes.. I'm with Nola there, just about had enough of it all and can't bloody wait for the era to end so i can wake up just ONE day without some new ridiculous dramatic situation unfolding."

indeed. as this has dragged on for ever

Yup that's fine. The cities thing i'm leaving up to Nola to talk to LLL first and make that decision

Sounds like things got worse since I left, is that possible? Oh well, at least I know I am 100% clean of this now.  Have fun overybody! *waves* :)

Edit - Wait? Cities prepping!? *Runs to the suggestion forum to find the Moving Cities suggestion*

its just a game, please go to bed:P

but i appriciat the effort, Nola=)

This is a game? It doesn't seem that way by how serious some people are taking this :)

*Waves to Magnetassium*
Greetings.

Damn, how lame.. Spaghetti is still hiding behind Dark's skirts :(  I'm guessing them noodles are kinda limp and not al dente like I heard afterall

its dead or it went away ?? I hope you killed that *beep*s army

actually retard I do its the shortest route back to ours and we are supposed to be allies whoever your inflammatory Pms to me have made me reconsider what I was doing , which was going north to deal with Lucises.

you are full of *beep*, so apparently letting someone drop tags is honourable as long as you let them take the cities , then you can make a deal with them to raze rather than give them back? LOL. Overcome you are a pathetic child , your actions have not only made the ned of the era more hostile for your own alliance but tha fact that you are prepping on a dark city atm after been warned  shows who is trying to cause a war I sent a message 14 hours ago asking to go through while you just prepped.

bottom line you are a turd, I dont respond to your responces because they are ridiculous. you refuse to admit you were wrong and get mad when we moved to take back what was ours.

the drama never ends on zeta :P its the same every era

actually retard I do its the shortest route back to ours and we are supposed to be allies whoever your inflammatory Pms to me have made me reconsider what I was doing , which was going north to deal with Lucises.

lol, you have been working against us all along, and its been stated by 2 of your fellow leaders that they are having a hard time controlling you. how in the world are you suddently calling us allies? and we never were allies.

"you are full of *beep*, so apparently letting someone drop tags is honourable as long as you let them take the cities , then you can make a deal with them to raze rather than give them back? LOL. Overcome you are a pathetic child , your actions have not only made the ned of the era more hostile for your own alliance but tha fact that you are prepping on a dark city atm after been warned  shows who is trying to cause a war I sent a message 14 hours ago asking to go through while you just prepped."

eh, yeah sorry if i have not been able to find the button that makes people not being able to leave our KD;) the only way i could have stopped Vapor and Ben from leaving would have been to war Dark. I made the deal cause you had allready pissed us off with the blockers opened for Mayhem and the constant ignorance we recived from vice members of Dark. they pretty obiviusly didnt share the same interesst as Nola.

and that Dark city was taken by LLL witch had no right to take it as all other Dark members i have talked to including yourself has said was wrong by him. but like always you guys use forever to make a decision! and WHAT answer did u get when u asked about going through our core!? u gat a no last time, and its a no now. get a hold of yourself.

"bottom line you are a turd, I dont respond to your responces because they are ridiculous. you refuse to admit you were wrong and get mad when we moved to take back what was ours."

yes, please stay away from the forum and the game aswell. i am posting my ridiculus coments everywhere so feel intimidated and go away.
and how stupid do you have to be to ignore that there are more then one side and one story of everything? and how many faults have you admitted?

i guess we would never know since you will not be posting here anymore;)

lol this is funny.  Learning to read must be a skill not thought of.  I suggest "Literacy" science.

"I have been working against you all along? except for you know the part where I had 20k nazz in YOUR CORE and didnt do anything except take back cities that an honourable player would have returned on their own."

yes, you are nice at repeating me. you did work against us all along and your response? saying that you had 20 k nazz in our core xD and again u dont respond to my question, you just said the same thing over again: "and didnt do anything except take back cities that an honourable player would have returned on their own."

i will ask the question as you can see it better HOW CAN YOU RETURN A CITY? IS THER A BUTTON THAT AUTOMATICLY MAKES THE CITY RETURN TO THE PREVIOUS OWNER? CAUSE I DONT SEE IT. IN OTHER HAND WE AGREED WITH YOUR LEADER BACK THEN, THAT YOU COULD HAVE THOSE CITIES.

and 20 k nazz xD everytime you speak of that insidense, the number of nazguls grows xD

Sir Prised [Dark] (3/19/2009 2:09:52 AM)
yeah he had an income over 3 million when you let those two dip*beep*s backstab us, they gave you both cities unrazed and yet when we TOOK them back they were razed. as for attacking you if I was going to do so dont you think I wouldnt have removed a 15k nazz army from your core?

LOL!

"Ok so what you just said is we are not allies? I will consult with my vices when i get home. You also just admitted that you screwed us because you were angry."

here again u twist things by leaving out the facts! first off, u know aswell as i do that we are not allies, so why are you acting suprised? for the twist: i admitted that i took the offer from Ben and Vapor about having those cities (witch is not a NAP break) cause Dark (specially you) had pissed off the intire Rebirth KD and made two people so fed up that they decided to leave and attack you guys.

"You keep saying there is more than one side as though that is some sort of mantra to avoid taking ownership of the mistakes you made as a leader."

This makes me laugh so hard, cause you are still obsessed with trying to make me admitt misstakes, while you are acting like mr. perfect! xD

i have done the right thing for Rebirth. and i have Rebirth to back that, except many though we should have gone to war with you, i dont know if they back my decision on not to do that. but i wont risk the reputation of Rebirth to kill a twat like you.

you know i just read about autism, and you have so many signs of it. you live in your own little bobble and only care about your own interessts.

back to topic-

"You wnat a decision here is MY decision as leader of dark, you will not be comped for dark taking back what is ours, you will not move to take back either of the cities that LLL has taken back from you as any aggressive moves towards either one of those cities will be taken as you disolving our so called Nap with no terms, any movement of armies towards any Dark city will be taken as an act of war.  "

lol, i dont actually care xD but if thats the way its going to be then i request back the city that you guys took from us. "Cute Little Min" was a city traded for your blocker. i want the answar here, so everyone left to care can see it.

"I have been working against you all along? except for you know the part where I had 20k nazz in YOUR CORE and didnt do anything except take back cities that an honourable player would have returned on their own."

yes, you are nice at repeating me. you did work against us all along and your response? saying that you had 20 k nazz in our core xD and again u dont respond to my question, you just said the same thing over again: "and didnt do anything except take back cities that an honourable player would have returned on their own."

You didnt have a question halfwit.

i will ask the question as you can see it better HOW CAN YOU RETURN A CITY? IS THER A BUTTON THAT AUTOMATICLY MAKES THE CITY RETURN TO THE PREVIOUS OWNER? CAUSE I DONT SEE IT. IN OTHER HAND WE AGREED WITH YOUR LEADER BACK THEN, THAT YOU COULD HAVE THOSE CITIES.

Its rather simple even for a dishonourable halfwit, you simply tell us to send a small army and take back our cities, its not rocket science but then neither is honouring a nap which is something you are unable to comprehend.

and 20 k nazz xD everytime you speak of that insidense, the number of nazguls grows xD

The number of naz was 15 when i took it up and grew to 20 in your core feel free to eits my army. dip*beep*.

Sir Prised [Dark] (3/19/2009 2:09:52 AM)
yeah he had an income over 3 million when you let those two dip*beep*s backstab us, they gave you both cities unrazed and yet when we TOOK them back they were razed. as for attacking you if I was going to do so dont you think I wouldnt have removed a 15k nazz army from your core?

LOL!

"Ok so what you just said is we are not allies? I will consult with my vices when i get home. You also just admitted that you screwed us because you were angry."

here again u twist things by leaving out the facts! first off, u know aswell as i do that we are not allies, so why are you acting suprised? for the twist: i admitted that i took the offer from Ben and Vapor about having those cities (witch is not a NAP break) cause Dark (specially you) had pissed off the intire Rebirth KD and made two people so fed up that they decided to leave and attack you guys.

taking the cities from them may not have been a nap break it was just extremely dishonourable. the killing of 3 k nazz and then saying that our Nap had no terms so it was ok for you to do it was dishonourable.

"You keep saying there is more than one side as though that is some sort of mantra to avoid taking ownership of the mistakes you made as a leader."

This makes me laugh so hard, cause you are still obsessed with trying to make me admitt misstakes, while you are acting like mr. perfect! xD

i have done the right thing for Rebirth. and i have Rebirth to back that, except many though we should have gone to war with you, i dont know if they back my decision on not to do that. but i wont risk the reputation of Rebirth to kill a twat like you.

you know i just read about autism, and you have so many signs of it. you live in your own little bobble and only care about your own interessts.

LOL KEEP YAPPING LITTLE DOG, ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS YAP ALL ERA.

back to topic-

"You wnat a decision here is MY decision as leader of dark, you will not be comped for dark taking back what is ours, you will not move to take back either of the cities that LLL has taken back from you as any aggressive moves towards either one of those cities will be taken as you disolving our so called Nap with no terms, any movement of armies towards any Dark city will be taken as an act of war.  "

lol, i dont actually care xD but if thats the way its going to be then i request back the city that you guys took from us. "Cute Little Min" was a city traded for your blocker. i want the answar here, so everyone left to care can see it.

HERE IS YOUR ANSWER, WE HAVE NO NAP AS OF NOW YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO CONTINUE TO TREAT US HOW YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY, I CAN PROMISE YOU ONLY ONE THING AND THATS I WILL DO THE SAME.

lol, i would like to do that. but i cant sit back and let Prised try to ruin the reputation of Rebirth based on lies.

"Its rather simple even for a dishonourable halfwit, you simply tell us to send a small army and take back our cities, its not rocket science but then neither is honouring a nap which is something you are unable to comprehend."

Lol, if you track back in the forum you will see that this matter was to be solved between me and your leader. your leader approched me, i answared and when she answared back, you guys had allready sendt armies towards our cities and your leader said that you guys demanded the cities back and there was nothing she could do. i would like to compere this to the situation we have now, we have not returned the cities you guys took from us, your forcefully took them without approval. and we didnt do anything before we have any clearnece, unfortently you guys have to use between 1-2 real days to decide.

"taking the cities from them may not have been a nap break it was just extremely dishonourable. the killing of 3 k nazz and then saying that our Nap had no terms so it was ok for you to do it was dishonourable."

here is where you leave out my opinion on the matter and call us dishonorable. thats a retarded approch. specially when i have explaned the reason for the attack on those nazguls. what makes u think you can decide whats honorable and dishonarble? im not making any judgment on Dark after what they have done, cause so far non of us has done something that everyone can agree has been dishonorable.

"WELL WE HAVE NO NAP, YOU YOURSELF HAVE SAID THIS SO DO WHAT YOU THINK IS NECESSARY. "

I hope people see the pathern here. AGAIN he twists the facts! or am i wrong?

in that case i would like that you quote me where i said we had no NAP! cause i cant remember saying that, but i do remembering saying that we HAVE A NAP, but not an ALLIANCE. as you are the leader of Dark, i hope you wrote wrong, otherwise i would reccomand you to step down from the leaderposition untill you are aware of the difference.

"LOL KEEP YAPPING LITTLE DOG, ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS YAP ALL ERA."

nice comeback and call it whatever you like;) i just made a honost analize of you.

i would like for people to let me know what they think of this answar, cause he demands 3 former Dark cities that they gave to us. and they took it by force without approval. they have 1 city we gave to them, and he refuses to give it back. now i would like to ask you a question Prised: is this fair and honorable?

also, like i stated above, we do have a NAP. and now everyone can see why we were suspices about you switching KD. cause by the way you write your messages and give threats all the time, you are coming of very unstable and unreliable.

"yeah let's go to WAR then.  rebirth keeps talking about how they tried to restrain their members from it and how honourable that was but their members took 2mil of my income.  So yeah best direction. 
War. "

lol, again a guy that has been paying no attention. VAPOR AND BEN WERE NOT REBIRTH PLAYERS WHEN THEY ATTACKED DARK, AND REBIRTH DOES NOT BACK THERE CHOISE ON BREAKING A NAP.

so you are proposing to break the era long NAP?

Monarch Vicereine of Wickedness [Dark] (2/8/2009 5:09:53 AM)
Greetings I see you have come to Zeta now. I hope we can be friendly given we are already in a war with Spagetti, FF and IPF
You (2/8/2009 6:42:38 AM)
yeah, im sure we can work out some relations=) how about: era long NAP - the end:P?
Monarch Vicereine of Wickedness [Dark] (2/8/2009 6:52:26 AM)
era long is fine this sound ok? Proposed NAP Terms 1. This NAP can not be broken for any cause - this is a full era NAP. 2. The forces of the two kingdoms will not engage in battle or attempt to capture each other’s cities. Nor will any aggressive magic be cast between the two kingdoms. 3. A member of a kingdom who does initiate an attack on a member of the other kingdom forfeits one city of the offended members choosing and agreed to by the Rulers or their Viceroy representatives. 4. Taking a city of the other kingdom requires the forfeiture of the city and one additional city agreed to by the Rulers or their Viceroy representatives. 5. If the member continues their assault, they will be removed from the kingdom and given no support. 6. In the event that a player is prepping on the city of the other kingdom, then a warning shall be given with a suitable grace period. If they player's army still has not moved and the leaders of both kingdoms has had no contact from the offending player, then that player's army can be attacked. 7. During the term of the NAP - If either of the kingdoms become NAP'd or MAP'd with one of the other kingdom’s enemies, the kingdom whom is NAP'd with the enemy agrees to stay neutral in any battle which involves the second kingdom. Any blockers allowing access are to be closed. 8. Nor will either kingdom accept war refugees unless agreed upon by the kingdom the player was fighting. 9. Diplomacy is preferred between NAP partners when tensions happen.
You (2/8/2009 1:00:09 PM)
yeah allright. all though i usually dont see much point in making the terms so damn spesific:P cause if tention is to be started, then people will just find ways to bend the rules. but ill accept it this time since we went with my terms last time (i think)
Monarch Vicereine of Wickedness [Dark] (2/9/2009 2:49:00 AM)
We can be looser on the terms those were just because of FF and what they did last time So we got really specific we Trust Rebirth so just call them guidelines LOL
You (2/9/2009 11:15:34 AM)
lol, that sounds perfect^^ we agreed on a era long NAP, but had no terms, we had guidelines on how to act towards eatchother.

1. This NAP can not be broken for any cause - this is a full era NAP.

This point alone made me ROFL

surprise!!

oh I mean, his name.  like the turtle giving a scorpion a ride on his back.  then gettin bit.  What did anyone expect.  If his name was "Pea Ce" then yeah we'd put up with our supposed friends whinging and disrespecting us.  Anyway lots of folks whine about DARK but this ain't no popularity contest.

Fate, Yum, RET, and Mayham have been great allies.  SA and SOUL regretful ones.  live and learn I guess.  Although Sir Thomaas and Overcome have been very proper in most cases. 

Anyway,  it is hard to explain but just the sense of entitlement burns my *beep* when dealing with some folks.  Relations between kingdoms is never a cake walk and inside the kingdom can be dicey too.

Yo Saint Lucises Lavour Leon... how were we "regretful allies". We followed your rules and the agreements. We did absolutely nothing to make anything difficult nor did anything to make aggressive intentions against your kingdom (if we did, we made diplomatic procedures to keep things good), what you did was declare war on us on a FULL ERA NAP because this ex-member applied to your kingdom but yet was free gain nonetheless, when he was tagged, we backed off. Yes, we gave you plots of land when we expanded, yes we appeased that what you want... when things went bad, we both followed the agreements, we even allowed your newest member to keep his cities in OUR core. Yet, you still cause us to be "regretful". So look back and reflect what stuff we did because we allowed you to expand. But the only thing you had to do was close a blocker city like within the agreement we both held.

I do not know what your deal with us back in the past when we were in SA... but i think we kept our end of the bargain... what bargain did you give to us (besides destroying us when you declared war on us from a FULL ERA NAP)?

hey Moonshine,

yeah I regret how you were treated.  you were decent.  give a pig a pancake.  you know?