| Zetamania Wars- Era of Messiah |
I wouldn't know really if i "give a pig a pancake..."
Doesn't deserve one unless it is a "good little piggy"
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It is funny how your "full era NAP" break was brushed off so easily...oh well.
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^_^ spankings !! :) *wave*beep*o Mr. Killerking *
@Kev.. one day you'll have to tell me where you got that moniker from then
Oh, and wish Mr. Ice a Happy Birthday!
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But no offense Saint Lucises, it is just my leftover bitterness speaking my mind.
Good luck for the rest of the era...
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So, I forgot to ask. Is Dark @ war with Rebirth or not?
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This thread is like a mix of gossiping old nuns, the worst soap operas on TV, and big brother, all rolled into one.
:)
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I was think more like COPS or Dog The Bounty Hunter :D
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Nawww....that woulda been cool.... but I can't say that I think this is :p
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the thing is I consider any member of your kingdom a life long member. so the 2 that attacked us can drop tags and call themselves GRAVE or Elementals but I hold rebirth responsible for their actions. So you NAPing them goes against our guidelines and DARK deserves cities of equal value plus the city back. so surrendering about 4 million worth of income per tick retroactive since vapour and hafler took my cities is in order.
hahaha xD and what da funk about all those members that has left Dark! should we blame Dark when they left you guys and some of the attacked us xD
i would like you to think a little about that before you replay:P
It sems fair to me for you to abandon all rebirth cities north of us. If my request works for you than sure I have no problem maintaining peaceful relations. If my demands seem outrageous then yeha feel free to break our era long NAP and air greviances in public. the straw that broke the camels back was vapour bragging that he attacked us and we lost stuff and got nothing from it.
lol, outrages? its a joke lol. okei, we will give u all our cities up north if we can have all of yours south of our core. and pluss that you promes me you'll eat a living snake stuffed with yam. do we have a deal?
"Anyway lots of folks whine about DARK but this ain't no popularity contest."
and you dont think there is a reason why so many hate Dark?
and i would like to add this: 04:05:35: Sword of Lantor lead by Saint Lucises Lavour Leon attacked and took over Daggerath. We lost 0 Swordsmen, 0 Archers, 0 Knights, 0 Magicians, 98 Catapults and 59127 peasants in the battle.
this pretty much shows that LLL is just trying to cause war. this city did not belonge to Dark, and we have not been given back the city they traded for us. lol, this shows that with the current leadership in Dark, they cant be trusted to be reasonable.
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"So, I forgot to ask. Is Dark @ war with Rebirth or not?"
No, we are not at war. all though Dark takes a city here and there and tries to make us attack them.
at Rebirth we are now betting on when Dark will break the era long NAP that "cant" be broken:P
mine is that they will attack 3 days before the era is done^^
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My bet is that they attack you within 48 hours from now
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We have no Nap, Overcome was very clear on this when we asked for comp when he killed 3k nazz and the harboured 2 people who dropped tags and attacked us within 4 hours of doing so.
FACT- REBIRTH was the first to break the nap by killing a Dark army that was trying to access a blocker
FACT- Overcomes excuse was that our nap had no terms therefore we had no nap.
FACT-Rebirth let 2 members drop tags and attack Dark within 4 hours , they then harboured those 2 by napping them and hiding them behind blockers, then further assisted them by taking cities from them that they stole from dark.
FACT- Dark is not breaking anything as we consider the so called disolved once Overcome decided to post that we have no nap.
He can whine and cry all he likes but the fact is that if we have no nap then I am not reigning in my members any longer.
Let me be clear we consider ourselves as at a state of war, last night one of your armies began prepping on Katastroof so I killed it, we have no Nap according to Overcome so since there are no terms they required no warning and were killed, I said that any aggressive moves towards a Dark city would be considered an act of war so we are now at war.
ANY REBIRTH MEMBER CAN DROP TAGS NOW AND NOT BE KILLED, I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE MESSAGED ME APOLOGISING FOR THE CONDUCT OF YOUR LEADER AND 2 TRAITORS, I APOLOGISE THAT IF YOU ARE STILL WEARING REBIRTH TAGS THAT WE WILL BE FORCED TO KILL YOU. HOWEVER IF YOU DROP TAGS NOW WE WILL LEAVE YOUR CITIES ALONE.
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3. A member of a kingdom who does initiate an attack on a member of the
other kingdom forfeits one city of the offended members choosing and
agreed to by the Rulers or their Viceroy representatives.
and yet when asked for comp Overcome refused despite breaking 2 terms of this nap.
and its funny he drags it out now after denying it for a week.
Hey dealus, unlike you we tried for diplomatic solutions for a week, when the same thing happened between FF and dark you declared war even though we booted the memebr who attacked you and destroyed his cities nso you really shouldnt be talking in here. YOUR kingdom used it as an excuse to war while we did everything possible to avoid one.
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this kind of cracked me up:
| Mr. Bongs [Soul] (3/21/2009 9:05:32 PM) |
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Dude act ur *beep*ing age!
You guys take another city and that will be *beep*ed up. Just another way ur dumb ass is helping mayhem. If you want to be a good player u need to get over *beep* and not act like a little *beep*. Come on *beep*er open the god dam gates! |
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you guys just made your biggest mistake ever....
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and all this is bull*beep* from your side Prised... you dont KNOW the facts...
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It's okay Thomaas, Prised wouldn't know a fact if it came over and tea bagged him in the face. :)
Hey Prised, if we had continued "diplomatic relations" with you, this is most likely the outcome. I mean look at how GREAT of a diplomat you have been! You should have stopped talking in here pages again since you haven't given one fact for us "preparing" an invasion for you. LOL you just ignore me when I post something you cannot swear out or deny.
Guess what now? You are ending an era long nap that cannot be ended for ANY reason so you are lower than me! HAHAHA!
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Quote:
3. A member of a kingdom who does initiate an attack on a member of the other kingdom forfeits one city of the offended members choosing and agreed to by the Rulers or their Viceroy representatives. end quote
as far as i know those that attacked you had already left rebirth and was therefor not bound by the nap. so why do you demand comp for citys taken by ppl outside Rebirth?
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we have no Nap according to Overcome so since there are no terms they required no warning and were killed, I said that any aggressive moves towards a Dark city would be considered an act of war so we are now at war. end quote
Well you do have a era long nap from what i understand but the nap has no termes.. so now you are breaking a era long nap now.
As i understand it you have already taken several citys from Rebirth because some ex members of Rebirth took it from you and Rebirth took it from them. Rebirth didnt allow you to take the citys, but you did anyway so that is an act of war and breaking the era long nap.. and still you claim that that its all Rebirths fault.
I think you need to start looking at things before throwing out claims.
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Sir Thomaas, what is there to know?
Fact it was MY army that overcome killed, his excuse was that I was going to drop tags and join Mayhem.
Fact we gave him every opportunity to compensate us and he refused, going so afr IN THIS THREAD to state that as our nap supposedly had no terms that he was justified in doing what he did. now suddenly when it suits him he "finds" a copy of our nap?
Fact- by letting guys drop tags and then napping them and then conspiring to to let them take those dark cities and then turn them over to rebirth to prevent us from retaking them he broke the nap yet again.
I am not doing anything dishonourable I have given Rebirth more than enough chances. I am even giving some of the people who sent me messages agreeing with me to drop tags.
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Gokken you obviously havent read this entire thread and are talking out of your ass.
1- Overcome killed my 3 k nazz army whil we were supposedly napped, when confronted about the fact that he gave me no warning he stated " our nap has no terms on it so you will receive no compensation" later he admitted that they did several things against the nap because " we were mad at dark"
now go back and read the thread before yapping.
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you are ju*beep*ll of *beep* Prised
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Dealus, you are a *beep*, remeber the MSN conversation we had where you ADMITTED to prepping an invasion on us? funny because i do and I still have it.
You are a nap breaker, we are simply responding to the other party breaking our several times.
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Gokken are you dense or stupid? you made a comment and i gave you the facts, now either go read it and shut up or bugger off and shut up I dont care which
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Did you even read what Overcome sayd when he posted the nap termes? he sayd those where the nap thermes that where discussed but he and your leader at the time desided not to have any termes.
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"Well you do have a era long nap from what i understand but the nap has no termes.. so now you are breaking a era long nap now."
How am i breaking the terms of the nap if it HAS NO TERMS"? do you even bother to read what you write?
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Prised, you keep saying that but you won't post it will you? You STILL don't know what a fact is. Saying you have something but won't reveal it is NOT a fact. It is more like trying to blackmail me into going away so you can continue pretending to be honorable HERE. You ended an era long NAP and are talking like it is ALL Rebirth's fault. You must be so stupid. You are denser than lead.
Go ahead and end your "permanent" NAP and see how many other KDs will look at that kindly. No wonder you are quitting since you will have a bullseye on your head.
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a nap is a nap even if it has no terms... and i didnt say you where breaking the terms.. you are breaking the nap by makeing war on them.
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Im ok with having a nap with no terms, I trusted rebirth despite them screwing me early on, now however the worm has turned, so we have what we have, a nap with no terms which means that I can pretty much do as i like.
enough talking I let Nola try to sort this diplomatically but all that happened was she was harrassed by everyone trying to take advantage of her good nature, I am not a politician so I will deal with this in my own way.
If people are honourable and forthright in their dealings with us then i will be so with them, if they act in a dishonourable fashion then we will war them.
we have several naps with others and if broken we will deal with that in the proper manner.
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Ok Dealus so what you are syaing is its ok for me to post them? now when i do are you going to go all emo and quit again?
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I told you to post the entire thing so it looks like you don't take it out of context. Shoot for the moon. I want to see if I really did "confess" everything to you from the deep recesses of my heart or if I was talking and my words were taken out of context. If all you are going to do is show like several sentences of me saying something way out of context it will show what your "facts" really have been all along.
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Prised... you think that just becose Dark is disbanding next era.. you think you can do whatever you want now, give Dark bad rep and then come back next era or later in VU history and everything will be just fine
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Prised, I suggest you stop talking out of your ass, A no term NAP doesn't mean that you can pull off whatever you like, it means the other kingdom trusted you enough to give you a no-termed NAP.
LGC and RET had a no-termed NAP twice, both times we respected all terms a normal NAP had.
Breaking a no-termed NAP is exactly the same as breaking a termed-NAP.
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do you even know what a nap is? ever heard of NON AGGRESSIVE PACT. But one undeniable fact is that Dark attacked and took over several Rebirth citys.
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im glad i dont have to bear the burden Prised is causing on my own. thanks for the understanding support folks.
i wont coment any further as i would use 2 A4 pages to point out all the lies and all the twisting of facts Prised has posted above. i just dont have time for that now. Newcastle is playing *beep*nal, and i aint going to miss that cause of a jackass like him.
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lol, i cant write *beep*nal?
edit: damn:P "the gunners" then^^
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So Lewatha speaking of talking out of your ass, are you aware that we didnt break the nap first and that we have tried to resolve this peacefully for over a week? funny that Overcome brings the nap up now when a few days ago he was mouthing off about how he never broke the nap because the nap had no terms. Just because he is your buddy doesnt change the FACTs and the FACT is that not only did they kill one of our armies and refuse to compensate they then harboured 2 *beep*s who attacked Dark and assisted them BECAUSE THEY WERE MAD AT US LOL. Now if you wanted to broker peace and mediate something then fine come to me with a proposal otherwise stick to running your own kingdom, threatening us when WE ARE THE ONES WHO WERE ATTACKED just shows your bias.
You cant have it both ways, there is either a Nap and by breaking it you compensate the other party, or there is no nap and therefore you dont have to.
their position was there were no terms so anything they did was OK. Everyone seems to forget that if there is a treaty and one side breaks it without compensating for it then the treaty is no longer there. PERIOD.
Thomaas that has nothing to do with this, YOU guys broke the nap first, the nap was broken once YOU decided not to respect it.
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Yeah cause bringing some good size armies a few days before you did this proves ur a nice and and trusting guy...
You made 1st attack and you guys are seting a path to our cities. I really dont care if we win or not but your true colors are shown...
Great job prised... **Cough**time for name change dude**cough**
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lol, we NEVER broke any NAP....
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Killing your army at our blocker was defensive not offensive action. I think most would agree that you should not have stuck your nose in between 2 Hordes at WAR. You were just being a Jackazz.
This entire thread you have been blaming us for 2 members that defected and disrupted your farming.
I dont know what you are so worked up about. You are Napped with every KD on Zeta so its not like you have any threats.
BTW...you keep mentioning compensation for cities that Vapor razed. Well guess what, a razed city is worth nothing and thats what you got.
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One more thing Prised....
you never tryed to peace talk... you never respons to messages and you only trow trash in forums.... so show me where you are trying to solve this mess
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that army... explained before.... remember?
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Sir Thomaas
3/15/2009 1:14:41 PM @Prised:
"2-if they merged into me trhe prep time would reset (any *beep* knows that)."
explained before, there is Dark cities nearby that you could had an scout in.
And Prised you should have moved that army a long time before it gotten attacked, cus I told you I wernt going to open since Mayhem was on the move and you allready had 3 other fronts to attack Vap and Ben on..
this proves it all:
Sir Prised [Dark] (3/11/2009 10:28:29 PM)
open please
You (3/11/2009 10:29:30 PM)
im sorry, but I cant open so you can attack the ones we have an Non Aggression Pact with....
Im truly sorry
Sir Prised [Dark] (3/12/2009 12:41:13 AM)
thats frigging ridiculous, you are hiding them behind you while they attack an alliance that you have been napped with since the start of the era. I am seriously unimpressed with rebirth right now.
You (3/12/2009 9:03:42 AM)
erm WTF, you let Mayhem pass their blockers..... to attack us... WE HAVENT LETTEN ELEMENTAL TROUGH TO ATTACK YOU, AND WE WONT LET YOU THROUGH TO ATTACK THEM...
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you still didnt move from the blocker....
and I belive a 3-4 hours later Overcome attacked you becose Mayhem was coming.....
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all ill say prised is Rebirth would have been very unhonourable to open the gates so you can attack a napped kd. its usually part of peoples nap terms
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I can't be bothered to read anymore , the more you guys post the more confusing it gets...... but I went back to the first two posts on page 9.....
Vapor's Claim -Pg 9 of thread-
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~Dark was advised about 2 Rebirth players leaving 12-24 hours in advance
~Dark let enemies past blockers
~Dark destroyed walls to allow enemies pass
Agreed:
Dark advised ...We initially kept the blockers down the eastern strip closed, they were opened apparently by request of Rebirth so you could fight Mayhem instead of hiding between our blockers. In the end we just opened or destroyed gates because of the constant whinging back and forth from BOTH Rebirth and Mayhem.
~Dark was inept at creating blockers that blocked
Agreed: Dark agreed but advised wasn't done on purpose
~Dark built in Rebirth's core
Agreed: Dark advised we also withdrew from the area between Ras X and Comegetsome, so Rebirth could expand their core, despite wanting to expand there ourselves. (Except, i'll admit, for some choice cities we captured from IPF.)
~Dark refused to give blockers leading into Rebirth core
Refuted: Dark advises
~Removed our own blocker above Stevy Harper so Rebirth could also control that access point
~We gave you Herebedark, Brick House and Ras X
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Dark let enemies past blockers
~Dark destroyed walls to allow enemies pass
enough reason to void any nap right there :) so why you moaning
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Who me? :) I'm only moaning about having to sift through the sand to find the gems ;) Too much work ^_^
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LOL so Killing my army while I was at work and remaining in contact with you was Defensive MMMhmmm . and your leader saying that it was ok because I was
1- going to join mayhem and help them take the blocker (later proven to be paranoid bull*beep*)
2-was going to use a scout that was hidden in our cities (makes no sense but OK)
3-because I was so scary with my 3k nazz
Then he changed his story to its ok because we have a nap with no terms.
It seems to me that the basic facts are clear
1- rebirth killed an army and refused comp
2- rebirth allowed (we think encouraged) two guys to detag and take dark cities which were then turned over to rebirth (unrazed at the time btw) allowing rebirth to circumvent the so called nap that they already didnt respect. then they took a blocker with the sole purpose of protecting the same two players from retribution by dark. the entire time saying they were doing so because they were "angry at dark" because they were favouring Mayhem.
whats funny is that until recently I had never even had contact with mayhem let alone about detagging and retagging.
Jules lets be honest about the location of the blockers that both Mayhem and rebirth were *beep*ing about, they are close to the Mayhem Core and far away from the rebirth Core. and several times we were told in our chat that rebirth WANTED them kept open.
As for Vapour claims that we were given 12 hours notice is abject bull*beep*, we were told about them retagging about 4 hours after they did and about 3 hours after that they were prepping on our cities with Armies that they had built WHILE BEING PROTECTED BY US in their core. we had no armies nearby because we foolishly trusted rebirth.
I gave a pretty clear indication three days ago that as rebirth was not respecting the BASIC PREMISE of a nap that Dark would no longer consider ourselves napped. so in PLAIN FRIGGIN ENGLISH I gave them 3 days warning that due to their actions we were no longer napped.
I have said we would be open to actual peace talks but this is a war game and frankly I doubt any of you would have been as patient as we have been given whats been happenieng.
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Oh about the walls thing, Vapour the douchebag sent several whiny PMs to Lara about a blocker in the far south, one that in no way borders on rebirth territory, so we agreed that if there were no walls then noone could whine about us favouring anyone. take a look at where crackley woods is and then tell me that we destroyed walls on a blocker that bordered rebirth.
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I wont disagree that we have some inept blockers, frankly when you committ to training neueubies thats what happens sometimes however when we have had issues with people being dishonourable we boot them.
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Ryan, my only point about this was
1. I'm way too tired to sift through all the posts to figure out what really happened since I'm not in either of the KDs involved
2. Irregardless of where those blockers are, who asked you to do what with them... you know better then to open them let alone destroy the walls and you tell them both to piss off and find a new route.
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Basically they built 3 inept blockers in the same spot...built then destroyed and so on. Meanwhile we had to fight against incoming Mayhem troops which they did get through and took cities in our secondary portion of our core.
After the 3rd time, Vapor sent a scout to the blocker location...appropriately named "pissoffthisisours" and we finally had a good blocker in place :P
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