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Death to Admins (Undeleted)
02:37:53 Oct 1st 07 - VU Admin:

The thread had nothing to discuss. I will answer your questions here:

What are you smoking Z_E_T_A?

I do not smoke

Is this the best you could do for your game?

I was actually working on a new map when I got a message on MSN that someone had built an unpassable wall again.

You are not a G_O_D, you are just a person with a small heart.

I do not know what to say about that.


02:55:15 Oct 1st 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

Zeta has MSN?  Sweet :)


03:23:31 Oct 1st 07 - Ms. Quietone:

It would be nice Zeta if you would address the real issues and not the sarcastic ones


03:29:38 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Barny:

Damn, Quietone beat me to it.


03:31:03 Oct 1st 07 - Sir Helios:

Wow, the best part of this whole thread! =D

""I was actually working on a new map when I got a message on MSN that someone had built an unpassable wall again.""


04:38:13 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Atreides:

poor zeta....I'm inclined to agree with Glith or wtvr...if I'd just seen that, I probably wouldn't care enough to do some in-depth studying of the situation. A few fixes to unblock the impassable sections would have been enough. Even if he did have something against DB, hundreds of messages won't have helped.(still, not the best course of action on Zeta's part, bias is a bad thing!) And I'm sure he would have been a lot more inclined to listen if he wasn't taking time out of an activity (which is turn was taking time out of his life for a game) for a game, and all people did was insult/flame/be rude to him. A simple, "Hey! Uh..I think this isn't right b/c blah blah blah!" woulda been sufficient. Did you all really have to be "You suck! You suck even more! What are you smoking? You suck! I don't like you! You're horrible! You suck!"?????


05:24:01 Oct 1st 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

After all, it was the players who built the walls that began the whole thing, knowingly or not.


05:38:49 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Oamawt:

i wonder who has access to zeta's MSN......


08:22:34 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Messiah:


You are not a G_O_D, you are just a person with a small heart.

How can you be so narrowminded =(.. You are offending all Zeonists =(


08:57:59 Oct 1st 07 - Duke Tiber Septim IV:

*Septim draws a SPAM cannon and points it at Sun

"You know what happens when you insult Zeta? DO YOU!?"

*Septim's finger starts to get a bit itchy.


09:28:38 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Onuris:

We all have access to his MSN - should he decide to give it.

I like the prospect of a new map! Cannot wait!

-Rob


11:41:45 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Ptah:

Alright here’s my 2 cents.

I agree that DB's wall was built legally and removed incorrectly. I think that all members of DB should receive a refund for any BTs that they purchased this era and NO WALL DELETIONS SHOULD OCCOR in the future, someone spent their in game recourses and slaves to build them. They may be blocking off their own area or the advance of an enemy, so what, isn’t that what you do in real war, if you can’t beat an enemy you block their advance? If Zeta doesn’t want crosswalls built he needs to script it into the program. If you use knowledge of scripting to change the actual wall or graphic when it’s built then you’re cheating? I think so anyone else?

As for those that think this is a free game and we should be willing to just take whatever the admin dishes out then does that mean that everyone that has paid, donated, and helped with bug reports, beta testing, and everything else should just write their contribution off???? NO!!! They have every right to expect that the game will be officiated fairly.

So in conclusion if you believe that this is a justified use of admin authority then continue on believing it.

If NOT then NEVER AGAIN SEND ONE DIME TO ZETA. Weather you continue to play or not.

 


11:58:00 Oct 1st 07 - Lord Yerean:

Mr. Oamawt 10/1/2007 5:38:49 AM
i wonder who has access to zeta's MSN....


err um, me? :P


14:36:31 Oct 1st 07 - Crazy Xuaron:

"We all have access to his MSN - should he decide to give it."

One litle hint You can get his MSN Adres from this site. i wont tell where it is but its there LOL. its realy easy :P

Nother hint. I got it when i bought my Title.

Now you probly will find it soon LOL


16:12:57 Oct 1st 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

Well lets not spam him up with our personal messages so he can get that new map done :)


19:02:54 Oct 1st 07 - Duke Mielo:

@ Artreidis or whatever,

I have spoken to Zeta and I didn't flamed him, nor made an arrogant and aggressive position against him ..., it went like this:

2007-09-30
19:26:57
Mielo
ZeTa
why did you split or wall? or you just want us to get killed and quit VU? fine I get the point
2007-09-30
19:27:04
Mielo
ZeTa
or=our*
2007-09-30
19:30:33
ZeTa
Mielo
you couldn't go though it
2007-09-30
19:30:41
ZeTa
Mielo
it didn't have an opening
2007-09-30
19:30:50
Mielo
ZeTa
go through what?
2007-09-30
19:31:05
ZeTa
Mielo
u can not seal off a passage
2007-09-30
19:31:07
Mielo
ZeTa
you could go through our blocker like it was before they build that wall
2007-09-30
19:31:20
Mielo
ZeTa
but you just made a favour for MAD
2007-09-30
19:31:25
Mielo
ZeTa
our wall was like this
2007-09-30
19:32:05




Mielo verzendt ...
2007-09-30
19:32:30
Mielo
ZeTa
they made that wall cutting off our territory, wich is unfair and cutting off territory you couldn't pass
2007-09-30
19:32:31
Mielo
ZeTa
not our wall
2007-09-30
19:32:36
Mielo
ZeTa
everything was still passable
2007-09-30
19:32:51
Mielo
ZeTa
and you just destroyed our wall which *beep*s up our entire defense











19:08:06 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Seloc:

lol how are we surposed to read that?


19:09:21 Oct 1st 07 - Duke Mielo:

the black  part is the convo itself and if you can't read it because it's to small, press 'ctrl+ scrolling down'


19:15:32 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Aligreat Owning Banehallow:

Mielo says:

why did you split or wall? or you just want us to get killed and quit VU? fine I get the point

Mielo says:

or=our*

Zeta says:

you couldn't go though it

Zeta says:

it didn't have an opening

Mielo says:

go through what?

Zeta says:

u can not seal off a passage

Mielo says:

you could go through our blocker like it was before they build that wall

Mielo says:

but you just made a favour for MAD

Mielo says:

our wall was like this

 

Mielo sends picture of area before MAD wall

 

Mielo says:

they made that wall cutting off our territory, wich is unfair and cutting off territory you couldn't pass

Mielo says:

not our wall

Mielo says:

everything was still passable

Mielo says:

and you just destroyed our wall which *beep*s up our entire defense

 

 

 

Is this better?


19:44:04 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Rimtas:

nope :D


19:51:07 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Dreadii:

 im color blind :P


20:20:18 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Sun:

Mr. Dreadii

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10/1/2007 1:51:07 PM
 im color blind :P

 

which means you should be able to read black and white....


20:22:45 Oct 1st 07 - Sir Jack Frost:

maybe he is blind....


22:02:20 Oct 1st 07 - Pirate Lewatha:

that might be the explanation why he sucks at this game :)


22:08:31 Oct 1st 07 - Mr. Gurath:

I still think the optimal solution is to destroy all the walls, and let mayhem ensue.  Let the armageddon consume you all as the fighting is taken from town to town.  Observe the desperate match for survival as the question of life and death supercedes those of technicalities and glitches.
Nah, keep things the way they are, just try to fight wall scripting bugs a little harder.


02:47:46 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Gothrim:

I think we should all get down on our knees and pray to ZeTa that his godly and hopefully very thick hide isn't pricked by these mere mortal arrows. After all, I still cannot find anywhere else on the web a truly strategic map-based game that anywhere near matches this one.

C'mon people, there was an earthquake and some walls fell down. An Act of God is seldom that most desired by us mere mortals. Quit whining and move on!


03:00:15 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Dakarius:

your groveling is disgusting.


03:31:12 Oct 2nd 07 - Lord Arzun:

Mr. Asystole

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9/30/2007 1:03:02 PM

Why don't you post a picture of what Sean Elderson attempted to do in the east Sun (i.e., wall off our entire area with X-walls through wall openings)? If you're going to complain at least be unbiased.

Though I do agree there needs to be some rules on what is legal and not for walls.


Sean is the last person to do something like that. He only did it because I was mad and asked him to do so without consent of the KD. It is the only wall built by DB affecting the defences of another KD, while MAD has built many. I really see why they did it too. It was soooo easy for them to say that they didn't build it, and have all of the VU "comunity" back them up, it is really sad. And Aloysious is a good person in my eyes, I can't see him having anything to do with this. What ZeTa did was wrong, it was a very bad move on his part. It would do much to post in the forrums and explain yourself, give yourself some time to think of a good excuse.


03:35:40 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Sun:

@Mr. Gothrim

try travian. a lot more players too. i like VU better, but travian admins were the best bunch of people i've seen.


05:51:43 Oct 2nd 07 - Overlord Dvsmasta:

If zeta doesn't have enough time to properly administrate the game, then he needs to get some volunteers to help with it.  I don't care if that means creating some form of administration login system, ect.  But going in and "fixing" a problem with 5 minutes of time does absolutly NOTHING to help the matter.

A little investigation next time would be nice.


Such as, does your nice little pretty game keep timestamps for WHEN a wall was built?  Semms logical so you could INVESTIGATE who/when a wall was built.

Oh no..  that would take up too much precious disk space.  Bleh.


08:53:43 Oct 2nd 07 - Lord Cobraisasuckynick:

Dear Mr. Dvsmasta, what does ect stand for?


09:27:11 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Acelnorst:

Mr. Sun

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10/2/2007 3:35:40 AM
@Mr. Gothrim

try travian. a lot more players too. i like VU better, but travian admins were the best bunch of people i've seen.

 

That's not a real mapbased game though. You can't actually move your armies through the map, it's more like this town is here, let's get my armies to attack it. It'll take X amount of turns because its Y far away...


13:43:59 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Gothrim:

Yeah, and I utterly hate these "attack anyone on the map, 100000 kds on same map" games.  No real strategy there at all. Drakos and I agree about that. =)

So, that's my challenge. Find me a browser-based, map-centred geniunely strategic free game even half as good as this one and I'll quit my "disgusting" grovelling and sit quietly by while you insult the heck out of ZeTa.

Oh and I'm not known for my grovelling. In most places I'm known for my temper, lol. ;)


13:47:44 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Gothrim:

Dvsmasta wrote: "If zeta doesn't have enough time to properly administrate the game, then he needs to get some volunteers to help with it."

Hmm sure, you guys couldn't even handle Admiral Krum modding the forum. Can't wait to watch your reactions as a dozen or so admiral krums start work on "modding" your walls. Get real, lol.


14:04:00 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Tango:

if admin can delete a wall, then cant they just rebuild DBs wall and delete the vertical MAD wall that was causing the problam? that sounds fair to me


14:04:24 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Acelnorst:

"attack anyone on the map, 100000 kds on same map"

 

Coud you imagine how many KDs would there be in a Mega alliance? like 20.000? lol

BTW, Tinywarz is also good, but is not really free. I mean you CAN play free for however long you want, but the good feats come when you actually donate. It's still cheap and al,l worth it.

 

Note: I DO NOT RECKON THIS POST AS ANY FORM OF SPAM NOR ADVERTISING. I WAS JUST ANSWERING TO A QUESTION IN-FORUM.


14:28:26 Oct 2nd 07 - Ms. Quietone:

Fair doesnt factor into this game-- Zeta has made screw ups like this before and he never fixes his mistake he ignores the issue, ignores the problem he created, ignores the abuse, ignores it all and he doesnt care eventually people give up and stop complaining and he goes back to taking people's money and time and waiting around to do it all over again.   I'd fall over dead if he ever actually owned up to a mistake, apologized and corrected it-  but then i know that would never happen.

 

So as I said before MAD and Nemesis will both profit from abusing the game and abusing the walls and DB will get screwed over and Zeta will do nothing to stop that-   I even asked him to end the era the day it happened- to call the game over based on the abuse-- his response was that it wasnt FAIR to the rest of the players -- get that? It's not FAIR for everyone else....lol  

So he's concerned about fairness.... but appearantly only when it's FAIR for certain players.... maybe DB didnt donate enough money this era to deserve any amount of fairness....


14:39:04 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Acelnorst:

You could actually build that into a game feat: "please the Master and he shall reward you!"

Though not with real money. How about a "Sacrificate" buttons, to offer slaves, or food.

 


14:47:54 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Asystole:

Nemesis never abused any walls, quit trying to say otherwise Quietone. Your KD abused walls on us, not the other way around.


15:00:25 Oct 2nd 07 - Ms. Quietone:

I said MAD and Nemesis since neither one of you want to claim the abuse but yet you both stand to profit from it and since they are your allies I group you together much like you group us together- nothing wrong with that.

Hardly the point but yet leave it to you to derail the conversation yet again, I guess actually having a conversation with you isnt done very often you seem to have great issues in staying on topic


15:13:40 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Firestorm:

I don't know why zeta puts up with this rubbish. If i were him id be wondering by now why the hell i make this game and put so much time into it only to be blamed for something that isn't his fault. Come on perhaps YOU ALL shouldn't have blocked off entrances making them impossible to get too.
I'm guessing Zeta has a full time job and that this is what he does in his SPARE time, he doesn't have time to analyse every single god damn problem, give the guy a break after all you are playing this game for free.
I'm sure this wall problem will all get sorted out next era.


15:15:27 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Onuris:

Just deal with it.

-Rob


15:15:38 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Brannigans Law:

guys, neither nemesis or DB have done anything wrong here, so why are we argueing?

admin made a mistake by deleting the wrong wall and we should be pointing fingers at him! or MAD for causing this whole thing...


15:17:52 Oct 2nd 07 - Ms. Quietone:

I dont guess you guys are listening at all-  Just deal with it eh?

I'd like to see how you would deal with someone messing with the coding of the game to actually build a wall across your town since you cannot do that by normal means in the game-- so have someone hack the game to build across your blocker and then have zeta delete your wall instead of punishing the hackers- and give these same abusers complete access to your core and see how well you deal with it Rob


16:12:58 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Gilth:

someone messing with the coding of the game to actually build a wall across your town since you cannot do that by normal means in the game-- so have someone hack the game to build across your blocker and then have zeta delete your wall instead of punishing the hackers-

Aren't you mixing things up here? The wall that was build on your blocker city was deleted without your wall being touched.. It's possible that it took a while and you were already disadvantaged at that point, but your wall didn't get deleted in that incident. The current vertical wall isn't on the blocker city.. so (except for being build by the same KD) it has nothing to do with the other one.

Edit: Not saying what MAD did was right. Also not saying you weren't put at a disadvantage.. though things should be put right.



16:47:58 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Sun:

Mr. Gilth

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10/2/2007 10:12:58 AM
someone messing with the coding of the game to actually build a wall across your town since you cannot do that by normal means in the game-- so have someone hack the game to build across your blocker and then have zeta delete your wall instead of punishing the hackers-

Aren't you mixing things up here? The wall that was build on your blocker city was deleted without your wall being touched.. It's possible that it took a while and you were already disadvantaged at that point, but your wall didn't get deleted in that incident. The current vertical wall isn't on the blocker city.. so (except for being build by the same KD) it has nothing to do with the other one.

Edit: Not saying what MAD did was right. Also not saying you weren't put at a disadvantage.. though things should be put right.

 

our wall is legit.

MAD wall was not built using the normal technique. it was using scripting to make it super short and goes right into our blocker city, which is cheating. it took zeta 3 days to fix it allowing MAD enough time to be preparing on the city already when we cannot get out of it nor reinforce it.


16:54:00 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Gilth:

I read that about 1000 times now..
I was just pointing out that during the first illegal wall (possibly scripted one), you wall wasn't deleted. From Quietone's post, it seems that was where your wall was deleted and thats not true. There it was the illegal wall that got deleted without touching your wall.

I also said you were possibly put at a disadvantage. AND I never said your wall wasn't legit. The KD I'm in has the same wall to block 2 passages with 1 blocker..


17:06:05 Oct 2nd 07 - Mr. Sun:

MAD did script at least part of the 2nd set of walls. The wall "Final" is one for sure. That length is clearly scripted.


19:27:06 Oct 2nd 07 - Overlord Dvsmasta:

Walls don't stop i nthe middle of the map by themselves, and i'm pretty sure zeta didn't pop in seconds after it was placed and modify it seeing how this mess was in place for 3 RL days.


01:58:06 Oct 3rd 07 - Mr. Sean Elderson:

Well what do you know.....


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