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TBL you have a fetish for wilber and plz explain batting average of 1. If lgc won 0 out of 5 would it not be 0? At least in cricket it would be 0 dunno the rules for crappy baseball | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ Stirlin Would have loved a 1 vs 1 fight for at least the 4 eras I was in Beothuk. I am sure your friends could tell you we were all absolutely ready and gunning for it. And we would have won 4 out of 5 times if such a scenario happened. I will not knock your group of players if you do not knock mine first. There are several players in Legacy that I have a healthy respect for, but the substance-less smack talking from some of your crew just makes your whole kingdom look foolish. Stay in the game as long as you want. I've moved on. I've got more important matters to focus on currently. Maybe when I am less busy, I will return. Maybe when my comrades are in the mood, we will return en-mass. Maybe when the Beothuk crew decides that they have enough gas left in the tank for another run or two, Beothuk will reform again. Maybe. And frankly, with prevailing Legacy arrogance, hypocrisy and double-standards, I also know where I'd rather be. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I thought beo had some old vets in the kd? Did they not tell you the nature of vu flame wars or were you just expecting lgc to change into something else :D | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
from whats coming out im not expecting a beo return, too much in-fighting. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Then that should be good for Legacy. You guys can win several eras in a row now too :) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
is it always about era wins? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Well, I see Legacy bitching left, right and center every time it does not win an era, so yeah, isn't it about era wins? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
do you see lgc bitching about the era wins or do you see lgc pointing out the flaws of beo? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"Stay in the game as long as you want. I've moved on.
I've got more important matters to focus on currently. Maybe when I am
less busy, I will return. Maybe when my comrades are in the mood, we
will return en-mass. Maybe when the Beothuk crew decides that they have
enough gas left in the tank for another run or two, Beothuk will reform
again. Maybe." inb4 tbl forum posting every 5 minutes. TBL there is 1 sole difference between Legacy and Beo. Beo play to beat Legacy, Legacy play to beat everyone (Jill has admitted it herself). That in its self should show the character of the core players/leadership. Not to mention that Jill also admitted to Beo cheating in Beo first stint on fantasia. Funny how your leader is the weak link and spills the beans when shes drunk. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ Stirlin: I see Legacy bitching every time it does not win. Since the time of MAD, Hex, Buffet, Beo, etc. Always some stupid excuse across the horizon: the other kingdom mass NAPs, farms, feeds, has multies, NAPs the only other active kingdom in the game, lands in the wrong square and thus has no enemies, etc. All lame, stupid excuses. Then I have a big big laugh when I see Legacy defending themselves against similar accusations. @ Pure: Maybe other leaders / players play to purely to beat Legacy (no pun intended). I play purely to win the era regardless of who's the enemy and, even more importantly, to keep up with my old chums. I have no idea how Beo "cheated" during its first stint on Fantasia nor do I have a clue about what Jill said when she was drunk. I do know that all the eras I played in Beo, we dominated and won fair, square and proper. I would never have accepted otherwise. And Legacy would have never beaten us in most of those eras. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
KDs cheating, hmm? *draws up a chair* :D | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
<Factor #2: The top 5 players in the game (in the eras Beothuk played) are as follows: 1. Binh 2. - 5. (in no particular order) Dalak, Crissxcross, Mike, myself (TBL).> a matter of opinion, tbl my friend so not exactly definitive (only 2 on that list would make mine and you can guess who:P)and kind of diminishes the efforts of the other beo players, like myself, aussie, darkmoor, etc:'( but its cool, i still love you | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
10:24:49 Dec 15th 13 - Princess Bashar al Assad: TBL there is 1 sole difference between Legacy and Beo. Beo play to beat Legacy, Legacy play to beat everyone (Jill has admitted it herself). That in its self should show the character of the core players/leadership. Not to mention that Jill also admitted to Beo cheating in Beo first stint on fantasia. Funny how your leader is the weak link and spills the beans when shes drunk. Funny how you change things around to make it sound good your way. I said ive cheated before not that beo did or I did in beo and was on midgard not in beo so get your facts straight assclowns! I tell you guys all kinds of shit in chats and laugh to myself as you guys eat it all up. and then talk about it in forums hahahaha. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
a matter of opinion, tbl my friend so not exactly definitive (only 2 on that list would make mine and you can guess who:P)and kind of diminishes the efforts of the other beo players, like myself, aussie, darkmoor, etc:'( but its cool, i still love you Its just a matter of opinion, Stormy. You know you are always first team starter on any of my lists and one of the few reasons why I make my occasional comebacks to the game every now and then <3 The point I was trying to make to certain Legacy folks is that Beothuk's team last era was VERY STRONG. And it wasn't just because of 4 players. With folks like you, Dan, Von, Terence, DLD, Zondy, Knigh, Braveheart, Augh, Jill, Bran, JLT and various others on the team, I was actually LOOKING for an OOP one on one war with Legacy. I already knew the odds were strongly in our favour, even after they brought back Legend, Warlock and Valarion. But these certain Legacy folks always try to paint the picture that we are the type of players who avoid OOP fights and can only performed after we have farmed up and NAPped everyone else. *chortle* And in any event, the gap between the top 20 - 30 players in the game isn't really big. Many excellent players out there, even in the other kingdoms. I would have loved to snatch Dreadlord (Bounce) away from Legacy, but hey, we can't always be too stacked against them, right? ;) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Response to Ms. Laura the Gold Miner: I would like to apologize for my apparent lack of communication, since it would seem everything I have attempted to communicate has been either completely misunderstood or simply distorted.
How does Beo handle the loss of its players? - unknown Can Beo exist when its player base takes breaks? - On & Off / Inconsistent How well does Beo adapt to changes? - unknown besides inactivity/not playing After victories, how does Beo react to the next era where the likelihood of napping is high? - In one instance (covering my own history here), grade: A (4 era win) Concerning your insults to my personal life:
I’m very aware of real life. Your implications are disgusting and presumptuous (like a prepubescent teenager) Concerning FW: Some of our talented LGC player base fights against FW. Last era, FW was nearly annihilated by Grim (led by LGC’s own Ignis). Same scenario for the era before that. If LGC were not challenging, you would not have just wasted your time looking like a moron in an attempt to make us look bad. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Do you even Knit brah? The words of Knitler, leader of the Knotsie party and member of the axis of cuddles ring true. Legacy and Beothuk are impure. Their threads are mixed with the threads of those of lesser quality. The Pure Woolen race of the knitler youth will do everything in its power to exterminate those greedy polyesters. You will be taken to our camp knitwitz for our final solution. DE-WEAVING! You shall be torn asunder. I Hengest follower of mighty Knitler am in mein kampfort zone when hunting down impure weaves! HEIL KNITLER | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Response to Mr. Dung: The latest Legacy excuse: "We have never beaten Beothuk, but Beothuk do not consistently play era after era, so we are better than them anyway." False. A conclusion has not been based upon consistency. However, consistency is of major importance when examining a KD. Factor#1: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Heh, you argue like I used to... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Throws gasoline on flame war! Now to get some marsh-mellows an watch. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
LGC candies chat was a hilarious read this evening. All the internal disputes, arguing and angst out in the open. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So do you get RP points for flaming eachother here? Or whats the point | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@Omc -- spot on | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yeah, actually. You get BTs from the mods. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Great! Then I join. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@Omc, once again, **thank you ** -- best laugh I've had in weeks. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Salazar: 1) I have no clue how you can equate consistent presence in a game with kingdom performance. Nonetheless, I am not interested in arguing with you over this.... if Legacy wants to claim its superiority over Beothuk by saying that Legacy plays every era non-stop compared to Beo, then go ahead. Of all the things in this game, it is my absolute right to choose when I want to play and not to play that matters. I don't give a damn about anything else. 2) My batting average statement applies as far as I am concerned. I don't care how often I come out to bat. I care that every time I come out to bat, I am ready to put on the best and most effective performance possible. Let me give you a simpler analogy if you cannot understand it. I don't play every poker hand (or poker game, for that matter). All that matters is that when I decide to play, I play my hand in the best way possible, and in the best frame of mind possible, in order to lower my losing percentages. If I am not ready mentally, no matter how good my hand, I do not play. Full stop. 3) Positions are unimportant as far as I am concerned simply because I know that if last era, Beo and Legacy were to spawn next to one another and have a direct OOP war, Beo would have won. 4) Pure and Wilberforce are absolutely horrible leaders, below average players, and sub-par human beings. The worst personality trait they have is making substanceless, baseless boasts and smack talk against players that they do not like or they have a grudge against. I have never seen them perform successfully against high-caliber players outside of a Legacy / FW setting. I honestly have no idea why you stand up for these two time and time again when not only are their flaws so obvious for all to see (both in the game and in the forums), word on the street is rife with how terrible these two are as leaders, players and personalities. And many of these words come from internal Legacy people, whose names shall not be mentioned here. 5) I do not know if Legacy players lead differently lives than us Beo players outside the game that enables them to play VU era in era out. That is none of my business. The only thing I do care about is about myself, and by extension, the playing quality of my team mates. I do care when being a leader of Beo takes up two to three hours of my day. I am forced to cut down on my reading time, on my exercise time, on my documentary watching time, and I am forced to revolve certain everyday activities around logging into VU. I can do this thing for only an era or two, but other than that, I see no point in further affecting my real life for a game, hence, my regular breaks 6) Smack talk - see the little snide remarks from some of your kingdomates recently over the various threads. 7) Last and finally, when have I ever applied to Legacy? Was it an official application? Or was it just some teasing going on? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
1) I have no clue how you can equate consistent presence in a game with kingdom performance. - Evaluating the Strength of a KD as a whole is not the same as in game performance. We have already said your in game performance is an A. Nonetheless, I am not interested in arguing with you over this.... - lol if Legacy wants to claim its superiority over Beothuk by saying that Legacy plays every era non-stop compared to Beo, then go ahead. - If you want my opinion, sure, I think LGC is better. Beo has had more wins, so on that front, they are currently better. I don't define superiority in mere terms of wins, although Beo is the current forerunner of that. Of all the things in this game, it is my absolute right to choose when I want to play and not to play that matters. I don't give a damn about anything else . -That's your prerogative, and nobody is saying you HAVE TO PLAY. However, I also reserve the right to evaluate your KD's strength as part of your opposition. Likewise, you reserve the same right. 2) My batting average statement applies as far as I am concerned. I don't care how often I come out to bat. I care that every time I come out to bat, I am ready to put on the best and most effective performance possible. -We are talking about a team here, not a player. We aren't talking about YOUR batting average, but your TEAM skipping seasons. There is a difference, and I wish you would simply own up to it. It's not like i'm saying, "wow, lgc is obviously superior because they play more eras than beo." Let me give you a simpler analogy if you cannot understand it. I don't play every poker hand (or poker game, for that matter). All that matters is that when I decide to play, I play my hand in the best way possible, and in the best frame of mind possible, in order to lower my losing percentages. If I am not ready mentally, no matter how good my hand, I do not play. Full stop. -The above statement confirms Stirling's claims that you are merely interested in wins. If that is true, then this is one reason I prefer LGC over Beo. I enjoy playing with a consistent KD who doesn't skip eras based on winning. Additionally, I was bringing into question (not judgment) the value of your KD due to its volatile player count/base. 3) Positions are unimportant as far as I am concerned simply because I know that if last era, Beo and Legacy were to spawn next to one another and have a direct OOP war, Beo would have won. - I'm glad you are confident in your KD, but this is just your opinion and cannot be anything more. 4) Pure and Wilberforce are absolutely horrible leaders, below average players, and sub-par human beings. The worst personality trait they have is making substanceless, baseless boasts and smack talk against players that they do not like or they have a grudge against. I have never seen them perform successfully against high-caliber players outside of a Legacy / FW setting. - I've seen them mature as leaders, actually. I can confirm past blunders, but as vices and people, they have certainly improved. I would think you would be happy about this instead of tearing them down. Are you influence their removal from leadership? If so, what's the threat? I honestly have no idea why you stand up for these two time and time again when not only are their flaws so obvious for all to see (both in the game and in the forums), word on the street is rife with how terrible these two are as leaders, players and personalities. And many of these words come from internal Legacy people, whose names shall not be mentioned here. #1. You don't insult your friends, you stand up for them. #2. As someone who plays under their leadership, it is my job to make their job easier. Anything less is unbefitting of someone in our KD. If others are gossiping about them, that's their weakness, not mine. #3. You must be referring to Ex-LGC like Marcus or Legend. But if you're not, that's fine too. I'm thankful that LGC isn't a KD focused only on winning and victory, but rather we are a group of people playing with a community of friends. It's a shame that ex-lgc is trashing lgc, since we accepted them into our community. But that happens I guess. 5) I do not know if Legacy players lead differently lives than us Beo players outside the game that enables them to play VU era in era out. That is none of my business. The only thing I do care about is about myself, and by extension, the playing quality of my team mates. I do care when being a leader of Beo takes up two to three hours of my day. I am forced to cut down on my reading time, on my exercise time, on my documentary watching time, and I am forced to revolve certain everyday activities around logging into VU. I can do this thing for only an era or two, but other than that, I see no point in further affecting my real life for a game, hence, my regular breaks -The members of LGC and the members of BEO both have real lives, with real obligations. Perhaps that's why people are trashing some of our vices - because they have real obligation resulting in less than excellent leadership. Unlike yourself, we don't trash them for this, but we maintain our friendship and extend a hand of UNDERSTANDING. Unfortunately, yourself and others seem to think LGC is comprised of no life's. That is disappointing for multiple reasons, the first being that we can have a sportsmanlike conduct. 6) Smack talk - see the little snide remarks from some of your kingdomates recently over the various threads. -I see smack talk from both sides. You and I have both participated in that. The point is moot for that very reason. Let the KD who doesn't smack talk point the finger first. 7) Last and finally, when have I ever applied to Legacy? Was it an official application? Or was it just some teasing going on? -Must have been a rumor then. I don't reveal my sources. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I
honestly have no idea why you stand up for these two time and time
again when not only are their flaws so obvious for all to see (both in
the game and in the forums), word on the street is rife with how
terrible these two are as leaders, players and personalities. And many
of these words come from internal Legacy people, whose names shall not
be mentioned here. #1. You don't insult your friends, you stand up for them. #2.
As someone who plays under their leadership, it is my job to make their
job easier. Anything less is unbefitting of someone in our KD. If
others are gossiping about them, that's their weakness, not mine. #3.
You must be referring to Ex-LGC like Marcus or Legend. But if you're
not, that's fine too. I'm thankful that LGC isn't a KD focused only on
winning and victory, but rather we are a group of people playing with a
community of friends. It's a shame that ex-lgc is trashing lgc, since we
accepted them into our community. But that happens I guess. If you plan to keep copy and pasting to each other in mass texts plz make it easier to read whos who :D Like. reply in a different colour or put the original in italics etc makes it easier for drama fans. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Stopped reading at the pink wall of text. :P No idea why this flaming is so personal in nature. It's a game ladies and gentlemen! If you get this worked up over it, maybe you shouldnt be playing? I for one have many better things to spend my time on than writing walls of text about a game and insulting somebody mother. You win some, you lose some. Life goes on! If you need to let off some steam this one will be happy to assist (no females though, yuck). /val | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Give it a try val ;) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hold up...Beo has had more wins than Legacy? I dislike Legacy as much as, if not more than, anyone else, but Legacy has been around since before I started I believe, something like 10 years ago. They have won a large majority of the eras that they have played...aside from when Carnage beat them back. =) Beo at best has been around...a couple years at best? And yet Beo has had more wins than Legacy? Really? Show me the data on that. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
you're confusing this current legacy with the old legacy archi my friend:P This current one (albeit with some good players) is but a imitation of the old one;) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ah, when did that change happen? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Me misses carnage they were fun to flame :( | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
same name so same kd :P Its called Legacy and has Roxbury so you cant make a distinction between old lgc and new lgc just because it makes you look better :D | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
^ my thoughts exactly | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You two do realise Beo members are the ones differentiating between old Legacy and New Legacy? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Don't even say the word Beo. You'll be accused of all sorts of things. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
OMG i just went looking for the Youre addicted to VU when thread an it no longer exists! :( The horror of being gone an coming back :( | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
it still exist. it's just a bad thread so people stopped posting in it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Although, I guess a distinction needs to be made. I mean, Carnage is around now, but in my mind, it isn't like it used to be, and I wouldn't want the two compared. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
There are quite a few old vets left from the "old" Legacy. However, as Archi pointed out, we've been around in different incarnations for many years. We're not as young as we used to be and have lives that demand a lot of attention. That and...they wont let us use the internet as much as we'd like in the geriatrics wing :( | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@ Jenna I already told you how that would go down. ;) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Legacy oop war vs the Immortals is mostly over now. Immortals reports the armies that won were over 100k op. I have one remaining turtle city in the south <Roll them Bones> as does another kd member. We can hope the time the Immortals bought the rest of the world will be put to good use. So all you small kingdoms out there, please be prepared for the next wave of Legacy attacks. If Legacy were inclined to play safe, they would roll up one kingdom at a time. That said, I expect them to split their forces and attack everyone at once. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
WE will use our cheats to beat them. Dont worry. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Timur, A post like that is absolutely brilliant. Regardless of LGC's response, it will appear as nothing more than a diversion against what you have stated. And with such an early warning system of an OOP war, what better way to prepare the map to defeat us! Will the Poodles & Cheating Mods alliance win the day? I can't say I blame you for that post, since this is Poodles chance at victory on the highest world in the game. Most of the players in LGC have a friendly attitude towards Poodles, and while we certainly don't wish you victory, we are willing to shake your hand and wish for good luck. May the Poodles & Ex-LGC Veteran/Pros (Zond, Marcus, Tomas, Fordius, Shyers, etc) do well. For the rest of you concerning the ex-lgc KD: Zond. Ex-LGC. Dissembler of Beo, defeaters of LGC. Mod. High activity, exhaustive knowledge, talented player. Marcus. Ex-LGC. Master of War, slaughterLord of Armies. High activity, exhaustive knowledge, highly talented. Fordius. Ex-LGC. Master of War, slaughterLord of Armies. High activity, exhaustive knowledge, highly talented. Legend. Ex-LGC. Great activity, very knowledgeable, dearly missed in LGC, very good player. --- No comment on the others. Therefore, Timur question for you: What other players do you need to beat us? Ex-LGC knows our play style, and they have some of our best players. And Poodles are a force to be reckoned with who have beaten Immo in an OOP war. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
But we are killing MAD and Knitler! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Well, I just thought it was an excellent political move. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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