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No its significantly changed, in the frequency of finding stuff. The method is still the same, just need exp in the army But instead of finding too much like before, admin made it 10 times rarer to find stuff. Which is a big nerf, but the exp system was very flawed. As soon as someone got exp in an army, era was almost over. Now you get exp and get some finds. But not like before. You could field 2 hordes easily knowing your exp army will find millions of gold each day. Now you will not find it every day, but much less frequent. I am not sure how exactly it was changed, but I feel someone said there is a dice that is triggered every tick, so instead of having exp almost every tick, you roll a dice to figure out if you will get anything. Or something like that. | ||||
Advents finding stuff has been nerfed into the ground a pretty long time ago so you might as well play halfer while pretending advents don't have any special effects in the first place. | ||||
The main nerf to the Adventuring thing is making the die roll for a find be determined by all halfers across all worlds, not just the one you are in. So, say 3 Gold finds happened per day per world before, now its 3 finds per day in total. Add to that what Jasper said about making it significantly harder to find anything to begin with, and you can see it's been nerfed to obscurity. | ||||
I was/am still very disappointed. | ||||
The game was really fun years ago, and the people playing were creative in strategy as well as exploiting game code to their benefit but there is always whiners about bugs or exploits and every fix makes the game more boring (just my opinion) … might be more fair, but that’s subjective. I agree though, halfers adventing was the reason to play halfers | ||||
I will take some responsibility for the Halfer nerf... When GvE re-opened nearly 1.5 years ago, a bunch of us piled in for a slugfest of 2 KDs with a draft. In that, we noticed "Steal Food" gave a dis-proportionate amount of XP, and one guy quickly amassed 400 XP (wont say who). After confirming the effect, sent it to ZeTa asking if that was the intention or if it was a bug, and that was the end result. This was long after the other nerfs, just was the final nail in the coffin. Wasnt complaining to ZeTa or anything, just was genuinely curious if thats what he wanted it to be, cause if so I was going to use it myself! I just refuse to use bugs in the game, hence why I asked. | ||||
Wait so this whole time I didn't have to wait to hit halflings at 100%? | ||||
Halfling should stay NERFED. This was a overpowered race which did many havocs by bigger players like Bogdan for many many ages. Halfling times are over. Now feel the thrill when you're playing with it. | ||||
The fact is halfling was a buggy race from early times. Peeps just used & abused the bugs to get huge XP & find millions of golds. Good thing ZeTa fixed it. | ||||
halfers needed a nerf not nerfed into the ground in my opinion all that needed to happen with there old sci formula was remove the gold function and make it so armies only gather xp and scis | ||||
Kobuskan and Berserkers, You're about to cross a river, an area which should be impassable but somehow due to patching issues, is. I would really like to implore you not to do it. At best, it's cheating, but at worst it just downright stinks and will ruin the era. If you do it, there's every chance you'll walk through and knock us out, we hadn't prepared for someone to abuse map glitches after all, but where's the fun or sportsmapship in that? It's not just us you'll be ruining the era for, it'll be you guys too. Please, play fair.  | ||||
Bercheaterz living up to their name. | ||||
"Why does no one play VU anymore?"  | ||||
People just moved to Valhalla and Mantrax, where there is no cheating. They managed to kill the world :D Maybe we should all switch to Zeta with the character that was assigned for Fantasia, make Zeta alive again. | ||||
No cheating is all I ask, regardless of who plays where. Obvious abuse of map bugs like these just kill what's left of the game, which isn't much in the first place. | ||||
Kobs will move back.. don’t think we all knew about this and condoned it..here’s an idea since you guys have started playing many Val with rules.. why don’t you make fant a free for all where anything goes? Look at that major guy abusing the market I have not heard anything about that yet? Bts this is just a suggestion it’s a bug that zeta should have fixed.. our guy actually done zeta a favour finding it.. | ||||
I appreciate the honour and honesty. As long as actual feeding / people letting themselves be plundered or taken over is banned, i'd personally be up for that. Let it be up to individual kingdoms to figure out how best to use map bugs, use the market however they want, etc. | ||||
Happy to accept a majority but if map glitching like that becomes acceptable on fant I guess I play valhalla instead, is no fun for me personally to have so little predictability | ||||
Yeah I think all of alba would move, we like to play honourably (which if there's an agreement, it wouldn't be dishonourable) and strategy etc. is a fun part of the game. We've also have people walk past blockers, which is also frustrating - but it's an age old problem. | ||||
personally I think Kobu should just carry on forward (says the already dead lol) map glitches, blocking issues, it’s part of the game… if you find it frustrating; what do you do when you’re not playing the game ? cause life isn’t fair and you can’t go to a new Earth when you get upset at the way they’re playing it | ||||
Kobu unlocked boats | ||||
about time, someone was wanting boats for years now lmao | ||||
You're right, you can't go to a new earth but you can protest if it's a flawed system or if it's a blatant breaking of a system - throw them in prison. Just because something is flawed or broken, it doesn't mean you have to accept it and stay quiet. :) | ||||
You're right, you can't go to a new earth but you can protest if it's a flawed system or if it's a blatant breaking of a system - throw them in prison. Just because something is flawed or broken, it doesn't mean you have to accept it and stay quiet. :) | ||||
Maybe introduce a feature where we can put people in prison... :P | ||||
think that prison system is already in place, just presently it is just for people that are caught using multiple accounts lol and some of those have been paroled pretty sure the protest thread is called Bugs and Errors | ||||
Oi If you have a problem with me selling slaves for 600g or trees for 8.1g each, blame everyone else for not selling slaves/trees at all or the people who actually did buy my resources at the price I put it at. | ||||
just curious whos market feeding i dont look all that often | ||||
let me rephrase that i only really see food and stone | ||||
think they’re talking about the guy on zetamania selling trees for $8 something , maybe not? | ||||
Zetamania? It's 1.45 right now. Fantasia had it 10 days ago:
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can’t keep track of worlds 😂 | ||||
If Nakuy manages to drive the price up that much by himself then that's fair play to him. It's not abusing an obvious bug like walking over water, and it's not actively feeding either. | ||||
Btw is it allowed to walk over tree? | ||||
So I can buy all the tree in the market for <2 and sell it to a fat dwarf in same KD for 8.1? | ||||
if pdc did what that nakoy guy did it would be called cheating.. but dont worry since its fine .. we can just get pdc to bump up the price of tree to 8 then get all our kd members to buy it.. its not called feeding in your guys eyes its fine by me.. oh and dont forget about the slaves at 600 thats even better.. | ||||
So not really their fault. If you hated it that much, you could have just sold your own resources at standard price. But for me, it was either someone buys it at my inflated price or I get to test if raising the price also raises the nativing price (Which I can't actually check for myself, unfortunately, but can assume if no other sellers show up), consequently denying resources (specifically slaves) to anyone else earlier on in the era. [This part is just my thought process] The trees was because I noticed no one was selling, so I simply did supply vs demand for shits and giggles. | ||||
Our troops can move over rivers. Do not choose another path!  Recent game updates | ||||
feeding has always been considered cheating, whether it’s called market manipulation or shits n giggles play If you don’t think so then you’re part of the problem not the solution and good luck with the not cheating on lower worlds 🤣 | ||||
Rare image of Kobuskan preparing to enter battle:  | ||||
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I got permission from Odin to walk over water, also for tree walking. | ||||
Two men were washed ashore during Operation World War Kobu. Their ship, an aging minesweeping model, had wrecked off the coast. As they sought shelter in a makeshift camp, one of them managed to salvage a radio and quickly telegraphed an SOS with their coordinates. To their surprise, a ship responded within the hour, saying it could be at their location in about two weeks. The older soldier shook his head, saying he'd rather take his chances swimming out to the wrecked ship and trying to repair it. "You'd really rather play with that old mine craft all day?" the young soldier scoffed. The older man shrugged and said, "It's better than a fortnight." | ||||
@ Nakuy: there are pre-set maximums for the native rate (which is the "normal" rate if market is empty). Those limits are: Tree: 1.35 Slaves: 100 Native rate can be lower (I can show exact way to calc if interested), but under no circumstance can the native rate go above those values. | ||||
https://www.deviantart.com/davyhookwrecker/art/Kobuskan-Turtle-Ship-340632384 | ||||
LOL Matthew: | ||||
Reason #1 Fanta has gone to absolute shit. Even while winning pdc & zerks can't help themselves. Literally don't know how to play or win without cheating. | ||||
@Percy How unfortunate :( --- @Konstant Amazingly when Alba was camping on me the first time, the ones who bailed me out and bought my overpriced slaves for tens of millions were... from Alba lmao. As far as the trees go... again, no one was selling, and I enjoy stacking my resources on the market. I figured no one would be crazy enough to buy millions of trees for 8.1g, but they ended up being bought within a couple hours of me raising the price that high. --- And if people are upset about high prices, all it takes is one or two people to sell at "normal" prices to either delist me for buyers or stop me from raising prices in the first place. So if the whole map decided not to build enough lumbermills, that sounds like a "not-me" problem. If you want to stop me when I see an opportunity for gold, play it out on the market. | ||||
Exactly, Nakuy. Kobs will move back.. don’t think we all knew about this and condoned it..here’s an idea since you guys have started playing many Val with rules.. why don’t you make fant a free for all where anything goes? pdc walked through a forest. Nothing new here. | ||||
It doesn’t matter if we understand or not. If one person can do it then why can’t others? It’s not one rule for you people and one rule for us? Also heroix has graciously given everyone a vu add on that clearly shows where all the bugs are.. you can’t possibly tell me that no one has looked once they landed to see where bugs were? I have not used it as I’m too lazy but you should be able to plan a safe core using that add on. | ||||
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