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Valhala Era 86
08:16:58 Feb 9th 23 - Ms. Jasmine:

That makes no sense as well, even if you had resources how is that feeding? 

You're actively fighting, and not inactive. So was the dwarf I took at city Pineapple City. There was a large army in there as well.
Only thing you could consider was plundering Napoleon, but he was also actively fighting and killing Pesti until he lost and rage quit. Does not quality as feeding on inactive. 


Can confirm igniz wrecked all his cities before they was taken and is infact not even dead , so doubt they would of got all his plunder. he just ran to the other side of the map with a lil nazgul army and wrecked all cities in there core and is now untagged.


13:07:00 Feb 9th 23 - Mr. Ignzi:

I have wrecked all my cities and wasted all the gold I have. 


15:15:26 Feb 9th 23 - Jarl (Jarl The Newb Hunter):

So there was feeding? Lol


15:33:02 Feb 9th 23 - Jarl (Jarl The Newb Hunter):

What a terrible era. Way to go Alba and Newb. HNS fight with more Honor and Courage. Fighting till the last man. 


15:40:06 Feb 9th 23 - Dark Lord Beta Newb:

Bud, we're tired of the multis and the people that abuse it, that's all. What happens after quitting the world is beyond my care. Lots of people fed or appeared to feed on inactive dwarves and so we just decided we dont want to deal with it anymore. Plain and simple.


15:46:27 Feb 9th 23 - Jarl (Jarl The Newb Hunter):

No one is even saying who fed what? Talking about all this feeding and having an era completely ruined. Multi and feeding happens every era on every world. Why is it only a problem now? Lol I assume it's Alba as I had a scout near a dwarf city in the nw corner with alba next to it all era. There has been 0 feeding anywhere else on the map within my range. Not much of a community lol multi and feeding is the only reason anyone loses apparently anymore. Quit and call it feeding so it's justified. Maybe everyone should be pointing fingers at Zeta or stop playing this game and there would just be Multis and feeders! Haha


15:48:30 Feb 9th 23 - Jarl (Jarl The Newb Hunter):

Might as well resign all your characters I don't see cheating being fixed anytime soon. See you next Era when more multis spam and more feeding is done.


15:51:47 Feb 9th 23 - Nayoke the Kid (Mr. Nayoke Longbeard):

Who exactly was feeding this era? I know there was some discussion around Igniz doing something that Alba and NGC didnt like, but he completely destroyed everything he had, so where is the problem?


17:16:17 Feb 9th 23 - Lord Caedus:

There's not a problem. There were some questions over Water Bender prepping a multi city but no evidence that feeding happened. 

Igniz didn't know the whole KD policy we have about mutli; totally my fault for not explaining it to him. 


17:16:53 Feb 9th 23 - Lord Caedus:

As far as I'm aware, that's the accusations being levvied against Alba. I don't know of other instances.


19:02:51 Feb 9th 23 - The White Rider:

 cry me a river!

 Why so many claim every new dwarf that lands on the map is some multi, I call total BS Two dwarfs landed near us this age both were sent msgs and both replied and seem to be one new player and one returning player. We allowed the new guy to join us and seems to be legit new and actively learning the game, karm aka jellybean has chosen to stay untag and asked  us to kill his oop dwarf with 403 buildings so he could go orc instead so we helped him with that.    Issue we have in VU is to many bitter vets calling out BS. This game wont get new players or do well on steam or anything like that because the community is broken. Instead of sending msgs and attempting to help new players we just call them all multi and kill them...... wtf.

 This whole communities unspoken BS agreement  about untagged and multi feeding is the issue in it self.     Zeta doesn't ban people over opinions or unfounded accusations made by bitter players.


 So its gotten so bad that the community thinks that if a known player goes inactive or decides that they cant be as active as others that no one can attack them cause that is feeding?????    WTF is this?    Its a war game shit in war isn't meant to be fair, you must find a path to victory through relations team work, war and even luck sometimes like finding a less active player with good loot to boost ur own growth.  It happens doesn't mean it was feeding, when u first start playing this game it suggest dwarf as a good race for new players, so it makes sense that new players choose dwarf as there first  race.     I have always killed w/o remorse or concern of what this broken community may think.    I suggest we drop this whole they must be cheating thing  and just find a way to win w/o crying out BS unfounded accusations.


   The whole idea of the game isn't based on fairness.   The races are not equal, all players don't log the same time or have same activity lvls or exp with the game mechanics. It will never be fair.   Strategy and activity are the biggest factors that often = victory.    I use to really love this game when i was younger, now it seems we mainly left with bunch of bitter vets that just spew out BS accusations cause they got out played and no way some one can do that w/o cheating lol .

 If we want the game to grow we gotta stop all this nonsense and bitterness within the community and understand the game for what it is and that is dang sure not FAIR. With so many factors like activity, relations, skill, luck many ways to win. Send msgs to new untagged players get them involved.   Its ok to kill them too its how the game is played its not ment to be fair.  You have to find a path to victory using relations teamwork or even  killing others as food to fuel the war effort.   

 Its  war game !!! don't forget shit isn't fair in war!  You can attack or wait to be attacked its gonna happen one way or the other.

 I mean no disrespect to anyone just calling as I see it. I too am a bitter vet and am guilty of thinking others may have cheated I just don't go voicing it to the world w/o rock solid proof and even then would just send said proof to admin and let them decide as it should be.    Lets just play the game w/o all the cheater accusations it does more harm then good to make unfounded accusations. send all that crap to ADMIN  just msg "admin" with all that and he can decide.

   


19:20:11 Feb 9th 23 - Percy (Mr. Percy The Range Test Officer):

A) we have messaged to ZeTa many times and he does nothing about it


B) accepting multi’ing/feeding as “acceptable” entirely invalidates any type of meaningful play style. There’s a plethora of examples how one person feeding entirely destabilizes an entire era. If we let that go unchecked, it’s all about “who feeds better”, teamwork/skill/activty be damned. 

A new player shouldn’t have to learn shady mechanics to compete. They should be taught the mechanics, learn the style they want to play, and at least be average. That isn’t possible if multi’ing/feeding exist.

What we’re dealing with right now is the death throes of a game. Either @ZeTa steps in to fix this, or the community will cannibalize itself to extinction once and for all. When the only players left are feeders/those accepting of feeding, there’s no hope left


19:39:32 Feb 9th 23 - The White Rider:

So guilty tell proven innocent stance.... total crap.   I am glad zeta doesn't see things like many here.   I never said once in my above statement  that multi accounts feeding one another should be accepted. I said send that shit to admin if that is what u think is happening.   I did say the fear of this is over played first thing anyone claims is cheater and that isn't the case. New players come and are killed , known non cheating players go inactive and are killed or kicked from kingdoms and eaten this isnt cheating this is life.       So i guess going to war with hammer and beating them back to the point to where they are less active is considering feeding .. or attacking a player that has decided to quit is also feeding ..     Seems like anything anyone does is considered feeding ... maybe all u frucks need to go play some farmville and leave the war games to those that have a understanding of war.   I will feed off kingdoms or players ... I will kill anything that gets in my way this doesn't make me a feeder or a cheater it makes me a player that wants to win.




 


   


20:33:05 Feb 9th 23 - Lady Jasmina:

Few things here Percy, we have to accept the fact that nothing will change. So we just have to adapt. Like I have quit the game twice already because of the blockers, before the whole multi problem blockers were what most complained about. I quit the game and returned knowing nothing will change. 


Situation now is that we have many supposed multi plants, and only way to deal with that is for Admin to ban vpn known addresses like it was explained in Discord, which will not happen. So options are quit the game or adapt and keep playing. There are no other browser (no download needed) games with such freedom of movement on map, if there were I would switch to that game long time ago.

The whole multi plant dwarf accounts are so poorly oranised, it really is strange. Like some bot is doing that or something, because it never favors a single player but those who find them first. Like I was told (can't remember by who) many years ago there was an instant of Bogdan walking to edge of the map, and taking over two 90k dwarf cities that were invisible (dwarf who had invisibility hiding in corner) and that sure did seem like a plant for a player. I did not see that, like I said I was told about that situation. The dwarf cities that we have on map now are just dropped randomly and built to certain amount and then left. If a single player is doing that, it has to be the worst way of planting something. 

Just like blockers will never be fixed to actually block, now we will all just have to adjust our gameplay to find and destroy cities that are dwarfs who become inactive.  


20:44:55 Feb 9th 23 - King Perilous:

We had an era years ago. A dwarf we took in went innactive.


I made them invisible but ab army went past all of our active cities and bee lined straight to the invisible cities like they knew.

A throwaway multi that essentially gets in on starter kingdoms and then ghosts at the right time. 
Lady Jasmina:

Few things here Percy, we have to accept the fact that nothing will change. So we just have to adapt. Like I have quit the game twice already because of the blockers, before the whole multi problem blockers were what most complained about. I quit the game and returned knowing nothing will change. 


Situation now is that we have many supposed multi plants, and only way to deal with that is for Admin to ban vpn known addresses like it was explained in Discord, which will not happen. So options are quit the game or adapt and keep playing. There are no other browser (no download needed) games with such freedom of movement on map, if there were I would switch to that game long time ago.

The whole multi plant dwarf accounts are so poorly oranised, it really is strange. Like some bot is doing that or something, because it never favors a single player but those who find them first. Like I was told (can't remember by who) many years ago there was an instant of Bogdan walking to edge of the map, and taking over two 90k dwarf cities that were invisible (dwarf who had invisibility hiding in corner) and that sure did seem like a plant for a player. I did not see that, like I said I was told about that situation. The dwarf cities that we have on map now are just dropped randomly and built to certain amount and then left. If a single player is doing that, it has to be the worst way of planting something. 

Just like blockers will never be fixed to actually block, now we will all just have to adjust our gameplay to find and destroy cities that are dwarfs who become inactive.  




21:20:44 Feb 9th 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Bigfield Ceo):


Ms. Jasmine:

That makes no sense as well, even if you had resources how is that feeding? 

You're actively fighting, and not inactive. So was the dwarf I took at city Pineapple City. There was a large army in there as well.
Only thing you could consider was plundering Napoleon, but he was also actively fighting and killing Pesti until he lost and rage quit. Does not quality as feeding on inactive. 


I said you were not feeding?


21:33:08 Feb 9th 23 - Nayoke the Kid (Mr. Nayoke Freeman):

Regardless of everything, pessimism will ruin VU before anything else. Like Jasmina said, players can adapt and move forward or quit. My personal view on multi'ing, if its actually happening, is pretty simple. People that would do it are insecure losers. I'm not going to let other people being losers affect my mind set. If I want to play VU I do and if I don't then I don't.


00:12:45 Feb 11th 23 - Mr. Pointbreak The Whisper:

hi all,



Lets just play the game for what it is a war game have fun attack ,surrender which ever the case maybe.
every game i have ever played had its good points and bad points and everyone has had opinions on how the game would be better if such n such was done,
fact of the matter is accept the game the way it is and enjoy it.
You win some you lose some.
take in new players and train them -
if people multi - i am pretty sure they cant log all accounts at once and its a small community so it will show and same names will be responsible.
years ago Multis where kinda known and within all kingdoms they where hit first.
I returned after a long absence and quite enjoying it so far.

enjoy what you have in front of yous. Visual Utopia.


04:21:11 Feb 11th 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Bigfield Ceo):

This era is about wrapped up.

Top two, maybe top three, are allied or NAPd.

Bottom two wouldn't take relations. 

Time for Armageddon?

IMGKingdom NameMembersLeader%P
Kingdoms in Valhalla
Whisper8Ms. Jasmine362
Pestilence8The White Rider261
Albatross9Lord Caedus177
Hammer and Shield9Mr. Bigfield Ceo100
The New Guy Clan5Captain Tutorial Failer31


04:36:13 Feb 11th 23 - Mr. Yiishun:

oooo new guy clan dieded?


04:40:50 Feb 11th 23 - Nayoke the Kid (Mr. Nayoke Freeman):

bro dont even start that convo again just go back and read. 


not even at day 20 yet not sure if arma is really in order? 

and im not really surprised by how the naps this era turned out. from what I saw of late last era, the weakest 2 KDs napped each other for this era. KDs that had naps last era decided not to do naps.

I expect things to either flip next era or for it to be every kd for themself

either way things should wrap up pretty quickly, but I wouldnt cast arma just yet


05:27:55 Feb 11th 23 - HorusPanic (Sir Horus C):

I vote yes


07:49:27 Feb 11th 23 - Lord Caedus:

The era has been decided that’s for sure - I vote yes. 


11:05:02 Feb 11th 23 - Ms. Jasmine:

I would say soon :) There is still some fighting to do :)


17:14:04 Feb 11th 23 - King Perilous:

Not really sure what's left to accomplish except maybe taking out Joe? 


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18:17:49 Feb 11th 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Bigfield Ceo):

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Pestilence8The White Rider254
Albatross9Lord Caedus206
Hammer and Shield9Mr. Bigfield Ceo100
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What ratio is acceptable? I don't really see either of the independent kds overcoming 1:6 power and 1/2 player odds (Hammer and Shield or 1:12 power and 1/3 player odds (The New Guy Clan).

I guess there isn't a hard and fast rule that is accepted but there isn't really motivation beyond a certain point, and historically I know we've lost really good players in the layover between the end game of an era and the actual end era.

Side issue: I had a player register with my name (Bigfield) who was Napoleon before. He's innactive. I don't know if he's returning. Does that mean I am locked out of my historic name until he returns and changes his name? 


18:28:44 Feb 11th 23 - Percy (Mr. Percy The Range Test Officer):

Can always message ZeTa and see if he can correct that, given there’s time before the next era starts


How did he take your name anyways if that’s always your name?


18:42:20 Feb 11th 23 - Mr. Pointbreak The Whisper:

Sometimes Players Just like to change it up with a new name i suppose then someone goes and uses the name you ve previously used. 


19:13:16 Feb 11th 23 - Percy (Mr. Percy The Range Test Officer):

I don’t recall Bigfield changing his name though, which is why I’m curious as to how he lost it to begin with… he was Bigfield last era


19:30:37 Feb 11th 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Bigfield Ceo):

No. 


I was Bigfield last era.

I made it Bigfield CEO this era. Then Napoleon dropped as Bigfield...

I didn't request it. 


19:45:14 Feb 11th 23 - Percy (Mr. Percy The Range Test Officer):

But I thought you dropped as Bigfield CEO since he had already dropped as Bigfield, which prevented you from using your old name? 


20:06:24 Feb 11th 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Bigfield Ceo):

No. I selected CEO as a post script title.  


I would not have done that had I known someone would use Bigfield as well. 

Was feeling executive with a fuller team. 


We can call it here ;)


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22:43:37 Feb 13th 23 - Lady Jasmina:

Greatest comeback story in VU history? :D <3


02:11:57 Feb 14th 23 - Nayoke the Kid (Mr. Nayoke Longbeard):

that was a sneaky play for sure :p


Tactical movements utilizing stealth and timing :P 


05:29:58 Feb 14th 23 - Nayoke the Kid (Mr. Nayoke Freeman):

dont make me send dwarves down there smart guy


19:23:45 Feb 17th 23 - Mr. Pointbreak The Whisper:

Was a good Tactic I gotta admit it, but only if it held out.


02:47:28 Feb 19th 23 - Mr. Mullet Also:

buy my bread



17:52:45 Feb 24th 23 - Ms. Jasmine:

Congrats Nayoke the Kid for an impressive era :) 

Very well done :)


18:07:16 Feb 24th 23 - Mr. Black Ghost:

Congrats buddy!


00:45:58 Feb 25th 23 - Konspyre (Captain Tutorial Failer):

Congrats!


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