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01:08:00 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Jinchuuriki:

ptah just burned a 90k colony from phi... yeah he stoped alright...


01:23:24 Nov 29th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

@Gothrim: Every kingdom has different ways of handling violators. Sorry if ours dont meet your standards. And for the record, Carnage does not have to defend its honor to noone.

If this is true (obviously it is), and i believe i had asked phi to message me about it, then he will be kicked.


01:27:36 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Ignis Bored And Back:

Ms. Dung Beetle, you do know that in the south, members of Carnage are purposely (purposely is key) letting their cities get their walls crushed, letting FF/LGC through, then purposely building walls back and closing them to prevent Phi from getting to the Legacy/FF armouries? (some of the less sly are opening walls and closing them...in front of our eyes.)

Also, now they are also preventing us from retaliating by closing the blockers...

The above can be argued as breaking the NAP or not...

the second thing is that there are mysterious castings of crush walls on phi blockers, and the same tick many carnage armies pop into the phi core...

if those castings are from carnage, it is breaking the NAP, but we can't prove that, just the chances of FF or LGC casting it is considerably lower...and if it's casted from DB it's also breaking the NAP, since then DB casted it, then right after carnage armies starting pouring into the Phi core.

This is just the view of Phi, so you can understand why some of our members can't control their temper...

Edit: maybe I should've pmed you instead...

P.S. this message isn't meant to attack Carnage, just explain our views.


01:31:24 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Donald Merwin Elbert:

Ignis, it is FF casting crush walls on Carnage and Phi blockers and allowing themselves through. Technically speaking this isn't a NAP break although it is pissing people off.

Although down south, a Carnage blocker called Nope Nope was opened to FF armies, and they conquered one of Ignis's cities. I can expect that the walls of Havocland will either be opened or crushed shortly. Why just opened and not crushed like the other times? I don't know... oh well.

By the way, just as I spoke, the gates of Nope Nope have been closed. Looks like the owner was a little too slow and now we've all seen it. 


01:34:11 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Gothrim:

Ms Dung Beetle, I can confirm that it is true as Ptah was prepping on the city and my reinforcing army was one or two ticks away; as of now the city no longer exists.

Furthermore this has nothing to do with kingdom policy. It is a general attitude of all serious players of the game to the phenomenon of backstabbing. For those who love this game as almost an "artform", which it is pretty close to being, one big threat always to be kept at bay is the kinds of immaturity that might destroy it. Backstabbing is one such.


01:40:21 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

 

 

this kid is breaking the nap NO ENEMIES OF PHI SHALL GO THROUGH ANY BLOCKER.


01:41:20 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Donald Merwin Elbert:

The gates of Nope Nope were open. So we took the screenshot and then I sent a kindly reminder to the owner about his mistake. The gates were promptly closed. Maybe you should have waited for the crush walls?


01:41:49 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

Acutally sloth I took a PIcture Before they try to deny it.


01:49:03 Nov 29th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

This is really pissing me off. All I asked for was leaders to handle this rationally and calmly. Do you guys seriously want to escalate tensions in both kingdoms? Do you serously want us to outright break the nap? Because posting stuff like this only exacerbates the situation.

We have never casted cw nor have we asked for one. We did not plant any spies in Phi. You know, I am getting tired of trying to keep peace between both kingdoms, if you really want war, then we can oblige.

I keep to my word, I warned him, now he has been released from Carnage.

But do you really want to start parading out screens and info about intentions to break naps? Because ptah did hand over alot, including orders revolving around a 20 tic timeline.

@Gothrim:Please dont lecture me on this game, I have been playing it since the betas, so I do know how important honor is in this game.


01:51:08 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Mavich:

Mr. Ptah [] (10/26/2007 1:15:00 PM) GOOD BAD
alright I have just had a conversation with a co-worker of mine who plays in DB. apparently they have someone inside our kingdom telling them everything that gets posted in our fourm. the person is claiming to be Falazar. I thought he was full of *beep* till he showed me the email he got from Q that had a direct copy of several of our threads in the fourm. They know whats in the merges and are glad we are just sitting and waiting. we need to findout who this is or we may be getting screwed by it later.

Ptah
You (10/26/2007 7:29:21 PM)
Are you certain that you saw posts from our forum? Could it not be possible for your co-worker to login your account and get info from you while you are away?

This matter will be discussed by the council and we will thoughourly investigated each and every one of you. Thank you for passing this one on.

Mavich-
Mr. Ptah [] (10/26/2007 8:25:51 PM) GOOD BAD
100% certain on both questions.

was deffinatly our fourm and no way he could log onto my account
Mr. Ptah [] (10/31/2007 11:59:53 PM) GOOD BAD
Still certain they have eyes inside our kingdom and due to the phone call I just got my spy thinks its Jinchuuriki. I dont think hes right but they know I have a few in our KD going ape*beep* because they think I'm gonna lose Razorback. Again this person is claiming to be Falazar the MultiKing. and my co worker has not been at work since I started off to attack since no one else seemed to want to.
You (11/1/2007 2:22:09 AM)
Hmm, strange.

It is likely to be him.. are you sure?
You (11/1/2007 2:29:54 AM)
Ptah,

Do not post those in forums else the cheater will know we caught up with him and its gonna get messy..

Me and zero has been cross referencing most of the people in the KD. So far, we narrowed it down.. its still gonna take a while though..
Mr. Ptah [] (11/1/2007 2:26:09 AM) GOOD BAD
I know they have the fourms for sure. I do NOT know who is sending them. I dont belive that he would steer me directly toward the actul spy right off but he is a crafty one. I dont belive it will matter if we start communicating elswhere than the fourms.
Summary:

Not a clue who.
recommend Yahoo or MSN messenger.
Mr. Ptah [] (11/1/2007 2:31:34 AM) GOOD BAD
oops gotcha
You (11/1/2007 2:32:08 AM)
I know.. thats why nobody should be posting army details inside victory thread.

We haven't really caught with the cheat yet.. but we are trying to minimize the damage he could cause like what you suggesting.. diverting to messenger..
Mr. Ptah [] (11/1/2007 2:34:35 AM) GOOD BAD
cool...
now think you can russel me up so backup up here on the LGC front. I will have the last city south of their blocker in one tic but could use some reinforcments before they get that merge back to their blocker.
You (11/1/2007 2:37:12 AM)
Don't waste your fine army.

You might get slowed soon so be careful.

P.S. avoid including your army details when posting in forums.. thansk! =)


Quietone, I apologize.. I should have believed you..

Goodluck erasing your forums carnage.. I am pretty sure he already copy paste all your threads..


01:53:12 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

We are not getting  at tensions PHI WILL KEEP THIER WORDS UNLIKE Carnage opening blockers to enemies?WHy are you doing this to us?What have we done to get this?This is a clear Message to carnage it NEEDS TO STOP NOW.Thiers a nap that even states that mybe yall have hard time reading but The nap makes it Clear No opening at all.


01:53:28 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Mavich:

and Dung, please post those informations about us breaking NAP. I would gladly verify it for you..


01:58:12 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Jinchuuriki:

hahahaha, that must have been when i was messing with my friend mielo, i kept saying he sucked and he didn't know who i was, then he told me i was falazar and i went along, but osiris told him the truth, lol! that was a fun couple of hours....

but never gave any info, not to him nor to anyone!


01:58:15 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Donald Merwin Elbert:

I keep to my word, I warned him, now he has been released from Carnage.

Thank you Ms. Dung Beetle. We shall assimilate his remaining mines to make up for the damages he caused us.


01:59:47 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Jinchuuriki:

ohh yeah, almost forgot... thanks ms. dung beetle!


02:01:38 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Sun:

Wow, Mavich, thx for the post. I am shocked by the level of fabrication he forges.....


02:52:14 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Soccerfreedom:

jesus, sounds like phi is having some internal troubles.........

anyway, i dont see how carnage is breaking the NAP with phi.

Mr. Ignis Bored And Back

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11/28/2007 5:27:36 PM

Ms. Dung Beetle, you do know that in the south, members of Carnage are purposely (purposely is key) letting their cities get their walls crushed, letting FF/LGC through, then purposely building walls back and closing them to prevent Phi from getting to the Legacy/FF armouries? (some of the less sly are opening walls and closing them...in front of our eyes.)

Also, now they are also preventing us from retaliating by closing the blockers...

The above can be argued as breaking the NAP or not...

the second thing is that there are mysterious castings of crush walls on phi blockers, and the same tick many carnage armies pop into the phi core...

if those castings are from carnage, it is breaking the NAP, but we can't prove that, just the chances of FF or LGC casting it is considerably lower...and if it's casted from DB it's also breaking the NAP, since then DB casted it, then right after carnage armies starting pouring into the Phi core.

This is just the view of Phi, so you can understand why some of our members can't control their temper...

Edit: maybe I should've pmed you instead...

P.S. this message isn't meant to attack Carnage, just explain our views.

 

just cuz they aren't defending EVERY blocker, and I can easily CW doesnt mean they are LETTING me through. they didnt know i had an armory set up, since we built there before they had full control of the area. they may have just thought it was captured cities/ small mines.

BUT, as for letting their blockers open for us........... that happened to be my personal slyness ;)


03:13:04 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Xiax:

I think Phi should take notice that opening that blocker does not bring FF into the Phi core, only a tiny area after which FF armies still has to go through another Carnage and Phi blocker to get into the actual core, so nothing much was really done except for the fact that now we know how many useless walls Carnage has.

Hope you had fun flaming retards.


03:14:39 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Ptah:

OK OK the big secret I was paid, in real money in real life, Just like every other turncoat in history I did it for the MONEY!!!

but thanks again to whomever it was bought me those bonus turns.

 

 


03:24:51 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Trogor:

Damit i knew i put in the wrong ID number...


03:50:33 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Donald Merwin Elbert:

I think Phi should take notice that opening that blocker does not bring FF into the Phi core

thanks for calling us retards Xiax, but there was still a blocker opened that allowed FF armies to attack a Phi city that you could not otherwise. you should have just crushed their walls instead of asking carnage to go against their NAP


04:42:15 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Architect:

*cough* Hypocrites *Cough*



whoops.


04:47:24 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

ROFL! NICE TRY,sadly we are not hypocrites we do not open for enemies with LARGE ARMYS PASS BY while somone is NAp that the NAp states clear NO opening blocker.Also Thier was  PHI city taken in result of CARNAGE OPENING BLOCKER.Also thiers no proof on that picture what so ever thier are armys passing by is thier?Please if your gonna post somthing at lest post somthing worth looking at..FYI.


04:53:58 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Donald Merwin Elbert:

Dear Architect,

"Blockagain" cannot be seen on your screen shot. Thanks for wasting our time.

Not a complete waste though, because thats an old picture, and you can see the Phi city that you allowed captured when you opened up the gates to "Nope Nope", which is still visible on your pic.

Any more pictures or proof for us?


04:54:52 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

Also  Mr. Architect you were the Guy who removed armys from YOUR blocker so lgc can come and burn it(wich they did)then you built CITY agine...Who are you trying to fool here?just becuase Lgc killed a few armys to look like your fighting them doesn't mean anything CARNAGE HAS FF AND LGC IN Core...With armys coming at us and CARNAGE OPENS blockers for them?LIKE READ NAP TERMS BEFORE YOU NAP A KINGDOM.


04:55:15 Nov 29th 07 - Duke Epyon:

I think PHI and Carnage should go to marriage counseling :)


04:57:30 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Xiax:

The opening of the blocker Blockagain could potientially allow troops in Zero Kool to go to Suckers Revenge and attack Carnage. It also allows Carnage access to Zero Kool since it works both ways... ^^ Is that two instances of NAP breaking?


04:57:58 Nov 29th 07 - Lady Lacewing:

Zerocool and Dung Beetle, sitting in a tree... :p


04:58:15 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Ignis Bored And Back:

Lol, I think Architect is trying to show that our blocker behind a blocker called "block again" which is a little east of the screenshot, is open...which means absolutely nothing...

Anyway, thanks so much for kicking Ptah so we can retaliate against that traitor...

Survivor, no caps please :). Underlining is ok if you want to emphasize a point.

A little correction to soccerfreedom. We saw your armories the second they were built...took us a day to find out what you guys were doing. Some of us didn't believe it would happen, but it did...so you fooled us once. Not gonna happen again ( I hope, lol.)






04:59:37 Nov 29th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

Thats it boys, lets keep the issue going....lets escalate tensions instead of letting things die down....


05:04:23 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Ignis Bored And Back:

@Xiax No, the other blocker "stop here" is closed...we are not letting legacy march in...or you guys either :D.


05:11:37 Nov 29th 07 - Duke Epyon:

darn I was hoping you would open the blocker for us :\


05:15:28 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

lol @ Ms.Dung beetle let me remind you,you can't break NAp untile lgc death but it seems your lgc slaves fyi?You allow them get into your core..and I thought we had a common enemie here what was it agine..oh umm(lgc)?

And ALL this was provoked by Opening of blockers wich You harbor our own enemies and give them free ways to get faster to our blockers?Yet am sitting here looking at the NAp BREAKER and probally carnage hasn't done anything?Blocker was open and a City of ours was taken..are you trying to deny the truth..?

Also Look at the very frist nap term?Have carnage lost our terms?or ignore them and do has they wish?

1.) till lgc's death NAP, violators will just repay the favor

 


05:22:58 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Xiax:

The blocker Blockagain was open and Suckers Revenge was taken, are you guys trying to deny the truth of that?

:P


05:26:22 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Architect:

Whoops, here's the picture again, sadly this time there are not 3 50K armies walking through...



You're mad at us for opening blockers so armies can walk through, you do the same thing.  The army up at Suckers revenge is 2 of the armies that you were letting through that have been re-routed...

I enjoy the fact that enough of you are "injured" by waht I say to the point that 4 of you reply to my message flaming me when all that I post is a picture clearly showing that you opened gates for our enemy as you say we did for yours.  This makes you hypocrites.


05:28:58 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Xiax:

Quickly! Architect only has scouts defending Hindrance and Tricksy! We must attack now!! For Freedom!!


05:29:10 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

frist of all Blockagine do you see 4-5 armys passing by?No so please shut up about that you have no case what so ever thier.Also on sucker revenge that was never our city in the frist place we let BOW deal with it.Also if your trying to make a case here(sadly you have none).Trying somthing more like having proof rather typing worng things?


05:32:04 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

Makes us hypocrites oh please?Let see who started to open blockers for enemies?ummm carnage yeah?You should count how many armys you have open up to let pass...probally be over 50 good size armys or so?


05:33:48 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Xiax:

That does not mean that Blockagain isn't open right now and that there is an route for BoW's armies in Zero Kool to go to Suckers Revenge. Shouldn't that blocker be closed? And I only remember one case in which any good sized armies passed a NAP'd blocker to get into an enemy's core, and that was Carnage armies passing a Phi blocker. :)


05:36:07 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Architect:

This is why I hate you and want to kill you all.

I came in here and posted a picture of you "breaking a NAP" by opening your blockers.  This is what you're all pissy at us for.  I don't say much else and you claim I have no case.  My case is that you have your blocker open as you claim we did.  I have proof.  There it is.  Denying it is just foolish.  There are not 4-5 armies passing by, no, however there were, and I can prove that you let armies pass through by getting an EiTs of Zero Kool and posting it here.  Any troops that are there would have had to go through your open blocker right?

Through the eye we can see this information about Zero Kool, owned by High Lord Odyko[BoW]:
Swordsmen:0
Archers:0
Knights:0
Magicians:0
Catapults:0
Peasants:1250
Wreckages:0
Homes:50
Farms:0
Mines:0
Magic Towers:250
Guardtowers:1
Taverne:0
Lumbermills:0
Armories:0
Warehouses:0
Walls:137

Armies in the city: 2(Total of 40948 men)

Oh, well look at that, a 40K army, and the other 2 I said that were passing through and merged, can be seen above the blocker in the picture.  I also proves that bow sucks at building blockers...


05:37:15 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

Once agine if your trying to make a case about blocker agine you have no case..You do not see any armys passing by NOr will thier BE nor do you have any proof that thier has been armys passing back and forth do you?


05:39:21 Nov 29th 07 - Duke Epyon:

1.) till lgc's death NAP, violators will just repay the favor


Im still waiting for you to kill us ;)


05:39:49 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Surviver:

Mr. Architect You made it clear you hate us I really do not give a  *beep*.Nor does Phi..Let me remind you that blockagine was built later on and zerokool wall was frist before blockagine.They had armys BEFORE OUr other wall was built.YOU HAVE NO CASE.


05:41:25 Nov 29th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

Thats it surviver, keep going mate. I am fully aware of our nap terms. Are you calling us napbreakers (it certainly seems like it)? Shoud we consider the nap voided then? I notice the rest of your bunch at least had enough reason to understand that this only worsens the situation.

@Archi: Now archi, what did i say man?:P I swear, you are worse then naerey...

 

@Epyon: and you will still be waiting from the looks of it:P


05:41:46 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Architect:

Thats not how I saw it.  Prove it, otherwise you have no case. 


05:42:28 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Xiax:

But that does not mean the gates are not open, how can you blame Carnage for having their gates open when you have your gates open right now? Even if there are no armies passing through, the threat is there. :)

(I feel like my running commentary is being ignored but the situation is just too funny.)


05:44:54 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Architect:

well, I gotta up my post count somehow now don't I?  Inly like 20 behind you.

I hear you Xiax, and I appreciate it


05:45:15 Nov 29th 07 - Lord Ladybug:

@ Surviver: And the armies appear there without passing through Blockagain. Either BoW is good at bug abuse, or their allies are damn good at casting teleport.
---
@ FF: Let's put it this way, I am personally not happy that you are casting magic on our blockers when we are friendly with each other for so long. In fact, I got a strange feeling that you actually want us to be at war with PHI.


05:48:36 Nov 29th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

Is that a bad thing?;) Besides, FF were probably wanting to find something to do to get them away from Soccer;) <3 FF (but osi still stinks:P)

@archi: You will never pass me never!!!


05:51:11 Nov 29th 07 - Mr. Architect:

If I keep talking to this Ignorant fool, I will be able to pass it quickly.


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