starta era of magneto

starta era of magneto

23:34:47 Jul 22nd 09 - Dr. Raving Lunatic Duh Mad Hatter:

I was wondering why Zeta put us one on top of the other on Starta and not spread out.
Most of Starta is empty

23:35:51 Jul 22nd 09 - Junior Guildmaster Shmeh:

Its the exact same in Nirvana its so weird the rest is deserted :S.

23:36:55 Jul 22nd 09 - Dr. Raving Lunatic Duh Mad Hatter:

yeah weird

12:49:56 Jul 23rd 09 - Ms. Lilly Telvanus II:

Back in Starta for another round. -grin-

It's Halfling punting time!

16:44:12 Jul 23rd 09 - Mr. Ryan The Archion II:

Is there another war?

Or what I think is right?

That the rest of Starta are just gonna team up so they will kill us?

20:28:14 Jul 23rd 09 - Sir Sorra:

???

21:19:24 Jul 23rd 09 - Mr. Ryan The Archion II:

It's just my conclusion since that ROC,Crazy and LD share cores and no war between you guys started while having HoH armies. Now I see the HoH armies of ROC coming to us.

So I say,

Mad Against Drugs

Mr. Aloysius

100

Insane Asylum	27	Dr. Raving Lunatic Duh Mad Hatter	67
Lightning Dust	29	General Sweet Daddy	65
The ROC Elders	20	Sir Erythnul	51
Lost Souls	9	Mr. Barimtaeus XII	18

That's 34 vs 85. Fair enough I think.

I say this on my own not for my whole KD. Maybe our diplomats have other things in mind.

22:54:43 Jul 23rd 09 - Mr. Lithium:

No Idea but its no different than what happens every era.

04:23:21 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Aloysius:

In many eras as a diplomat of MAD, I have never encounter a kingdom who offers NAP relation, had good discussions with me, and when the NAP is sealed... they canceled it without any further discussions.

Only to know that they are training troops against us. ROC kingdom, I replied to your NAP offer as prompt as I could. I even posted in our kingdom forum that we are under NAP discussions, only to see offensive armies moving against us in short notice.

ROC Elders, you call yourself elders but the way you are handling foreign relations are fake. You are offering peaceful relations with us at the same time you are discussing to other kingdoms with terms that is against us.

04:39:12 Jul 24th 09 - Duke Kev The Humble:

So the World of VU knows this is the message that was sent to MAD. While it is true that we were in negotiations with MAD the fact is we (as a KD) had relations with Tupac (now Lost Souls) which extended across eras. As was stated we regret the situation but, it is our feeling that as it is we must honor our relations which have been long standing. Again, MAD is an honorable KD and this decision, for our part is purely Diplomatic in nature.

Greetings Mr. Aloysius Honorable Leader of MAD:

Due to Diplomatic relations entered into with various Kingdoms and the present situation on the World of Starta we regret to inform you that we must discontinue Diplomatic negotiations with the KD of MAD for the time being. This decision is purely Diplomatic in nature and does in no way reflect negatively on the Honorable and Great Kingdom of MAD.

Respectfully Kev the Humble, Representative of TRE

04:46:23 Jul 24th 09 - Ms. Vera Linus:

my goodness. they turned down a relationship with MAD and chose to be at war. best of luck then.

05:10:44 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Aloysius:

@Kev,
Mate, I receive that message.. in short notice without any appeal. ;)

Before entering diplomatic relations to a kingdom, you guys must assess first what are the implications of offering NAP to a kingdom that can be enemies of other kingdoms around you. You guys are lame negotiators. You shouldnt initiate friendly discussions only to find out you will change mind in the end.

I dont care about your relations with Tupac, Tupac as a kingdom disbanded. Why dont you include that kingdom in your friendly package at the very first message that you guys sent to me. The negotiations your kingom have with me is only between MAD and ROC.

Dont even mention...

"Due to Diplomatic relations entered into with various Kingdoms."

that's *beep*.

05:21:44 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Alterax:

perhaps after a few more eras of diplomacy aloysius you will understand

05:36:45 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Justin:

I thought this is a war game 0_o my mistake.

06:02:41 Jul 24th 09 - General Sweet Daddy:

I myself can show messages, from which i was shown by Lost souls that they were talking to ROC, and ROC was talking to us. This was the first tick i saw ROC here as i had a couple guys start IN their core.

06:13:29 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Aloysius:

Im not talking about diplomacy. And Im not arguing about VU as a war game.

Im disappointed to see unhonorable council of leaders in a kingdom. I dont care if they war us... I dont care if we win or lose. Honor code is what Im after here.

06:17:48 Jul 24th 09 - General Sweet Daddy:

Nothing was final..so they did nothing wrong. You were TALKING, they ended it and gave you a reason.

06:25:23 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Overcome:

thats what Mayhem did a couple of eras back, but i think the thing that made it unhonorable was that they just stopt sending messages in the midle of the negotiations then attacked us. they asked for terms, we sendt them and never got a reply.

in this case, it looks like its more annoying then unhonorable.

06:40:33 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Ryan The Archion II:

Well, they better send their troops to us to finish us quickly or DIE trying!

LOL!

06:42:51 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Aloysius:

Its like making handshakes to a person. You need to smile and change mind.

07:05:56 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Ryan The Archion II:

@Kev, My apologies. I just accidentally click the slaughter your army button. I thought it was atleast hammers but it's just gaias.

10:39:29 Jul 24th 09 - Sir Erythnul:

Aloysius unhonorable ?
When we where discussing diplomacy i said TRE where offering 1 Map & 1 Nap , your empire decided to take Nap as you said 'a Map relation this early would increase our enemies' so a Nap was given , as we had fought Tupac last era and they impressed us with there ' never say die ' attitude , and beleive if needed they would help us in any war we had waged against us so a Map was agreed on.
Then Mad went to war with Lost souls(Tupac) , so as we beleive our Map with Lost souls (Tupac) overides the Nap with Mad we terminated our agreement.
As for mentioning our relationship with Tupac in our correspondance , didnt seem any reason 2 and even if we did would that of stopped you attacking them. ?
I agree my diplomacy skills need to be improved but unhonorable ? what would be unhonorable is if we didnt help Lost souls .

11:16:51 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Aloysius:

Huh. again... Why dont you include that kingdom in your friendly package at the very first message that you guys sent to me. sigh.

In less than 12ticks after your honorable cancelation, your armies are marching already for us.

I dont care how good LostSouls are. We started small in the past just like them.

11:40:10 Jul 24th 09 - Sir Erythnul:

Why ? i have never seen anyone send who they are Napped/Mapped/Allianed or even having talks with to another empire while having talks .
As for marching in less then 12 ticks after cancelation , if anything we let Lost souls down for taking so long . :-(

Everyone starts somewhere have dont disagree there .

12:22:01 Jul 24th 09 - Prince Mielo:

If you NAP a kingdom and willing they aren't attacking your kingdoms you are friendly with, you should come to one sort of agreement ... Otherwise what is the point of the NAP in the first place, if you'll break it for thing they weren't aware of?

12:25:40 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Aloysius:

that means you didnt know. sigh.

During NAP discussion, you need to inform the other kingdom if you have any MAP/Alliance partner beforehand.. because that will surely conflict the terms and may need to be readdress.

13:40:44 Jul 24th 09 - Dr. Raving Lunatic Duh Mad Hatter:

Sooo you all are fighting?

I thought Starta was just one big farming community

17:11:09 Jul 24th 09 - Ms. Lilly Telvanus II:

Farming is for Halflings. -frown-

17:45:51 Jul 24th 09 - Prince Highwayman:

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13:40:44 Jul 24th 09 Sooo you all are fighting?

I thought Starta was just one big farming community

I'm a farmer. Come see my crops... ;)

18:01:03 Jul 24th 09 - General Sweet Daddy:

i can see them ;)

18:17:12 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Justin:

:"( i cant alls i see are platoons

18:17:35 Jul 24th 09 - Duchess Jasmina:

Well I think its nice to finally see MAD doing some fighting unlike last era.
Will be fun to see how they do without being able to farm all era :)
Good luck everyone

18:54:13 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Ryan The Archion II:

@ Jas Huh? not farming? We all farm. We are great farmers you know that. LOL! Seeing you again made me happy, it's just that your with Rebirth. T_T -Lapulapu

18:54:35 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Hilario:

lol Jasmina... what's the difference last era?

18:59:17 Jul 24th 09 - Duchess Jasmina:

What I meant was it will be interesting to see how you will do with an early war. Cause last era you did not do anything for a very long time, so you were able to farm and train large armies to go to war.
Me being in Rebirth has nothing to do with last era, we were allies last era and this era I do not consider you as enemies too unless I am told by the leadership.
You're a group of great players and I am sure you will do a good job. Plus for me era is much more interesting when there are wars, so it should be more fun for you too :)

22:27:56 Jul 24th 09 - Mr. Lithium:

Why does everyone complain about fighting in a war game?

00:39:12 Jul 25th 09 - Mr. Penor The Overwhelming:

That was messed up... ROC and LD and LS and Insane Asylum all get dropped together and MAD gets its own core... >:(

00:39:55 Jul 25th 09 - Mr. Penor The Overwhelming:

Oops i thought the end of the 1st page was the end of the 2nd

00:55:46 Jul 25th 09 - Ms. Bluelight:

That was messed up... ROC and LD and LS and Insane Asylum all get dropped together and MAD gets its own core... >:(

i can see LS is disbanding under the pressure of MAD assaults. so i guess we are fine against all 4KD in OOP. and that is only 6 MAD members doing the OOP wars. the rest are still farmers. ;-)

01:27:47 Jul 25th 09 - Mr. Vuggy:

I'm guessing you mean LD, not LS? You better get more members fighting if you want to fully wipe them out.. They don't go down easy. ^^

01:33:26 Jul 25th 09 - Mr. Pieguy:

no indeed we wont go down easy and LD is disbanding under the so called "pressure" of MAD assaults

02:04:02 Jul 25th 09 - Mr. Justin:

LS Pieguy not LD...LD is us. Why would we disband?

02:09:14 Jul 25th 09 - Mr. Barimtaeus XII:

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15:55:46 Jul 24th 09 That was messed up... ROC and LD and LS and Insane Asylum all get dropped together and MAD gets its own core... >:(

LMAO were merging and still fighting so no pressure has done nothing ;) Pressure just makes things that more interesting :-P