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I want to know whats up with Kingdom of Test, is there something we don't know? Why don't they have more power in terms of percentage? We have not fought them, possibly just a battle or two, any updates on their situation?
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Hey Jack at least its always wars, interesting era so far. Its better than if you had to farm for a month with no fights :D We bring the wars to everyone! :D | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lots of burnt land and an open core and re-positioning is the reason for Test to be so low | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ms. Manymistakes: Well I spawned really late and got whomped. So I've been taken out early. Rebuilding though. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nice sneak attack there collective. That's a pain in my arse! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sneak attack? You could see our armies at least a day ago, plus I sent my scouts like two days ago here to your area, you should have seen us coming from long distance :-) Still nice counter attack :-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I might be annoying , but one thing im not is dying :P | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Can't believe how entertaining nirvana is. All the cool folks are on, including the annoying ones too. That was a funny reply my manymistakes I have admit | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
i'm trying to figure out how that part of the conversation changes what i said :S ? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I was running around trying to b/d some cities to get more cities for most fearsome but I just noticed burn and destroy does not count. Why is that? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
B&D does not capture, it erases, the city count is only for capturing. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So what happens when you burn and destroy? Do you get anything for it? Or is it just a cheaper option from take over then destroying with money? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You don't get anything, you even lose some morale of the army doing it, but when you b/d a large enemy city, its great :-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
B&D is very underutilized these days. A lot of people are HoH most fearsome whores and care more about kills and cities captured than they care about causing the most damage possible to an enemy. It should be utilized when you are deep in enemy territory and you know you can't keep every city you capture so you B&D it then move onto the next city. Even if you raze a city, which costs you gold while B&D is free, it can be rebuilt rather quickly from wreckage. It takes much longer build a city from scratch. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So destroying a building to 0 land it is not the same as B&D? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No because wreckage takes time. B&D the city disappears as it never existed. Also razing costs gold, B&D doesn't. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Battles | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
My KD has fought larger KDs all era and we still have a winning record :) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Good job :) VICTORY!my Lady. The city of Home is now under our command! They had 612602 gold, 0 stone, 218434 tree, 7549 food and 0 slaves in the city, that is now yours! We also took 41396 of their peasants as slaves! We killed all of the 108535 troops. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Don't mind me.. just farming away... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Looks like whatever they was testing didn't work. Collective claim the first fatality of the era soon. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ngati Kahungunu, as a one man kingdom died first, died against Barny at OOP. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
First kingdom dead that the west can see :P | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The east side of the map has been busy lol no one has died yet on the west , we need to get to work over here | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Eh humans and their crazy mobilization :D | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
go barny you show them | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thats soooo much upkeep. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Its not like he's going to leave the city till end of era... He said it himself, he wanted to test human oop, probably for GvE world, where he is focusing most of his attention I am sure, he only came here to test few things, and he did pretty well at oop, but later he lost interest I guess, or maybe he did not expect Collective to grow this fast? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Does Binh and Barny purposely choose the same race in GvE? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nope lol. I only chose human this era because we were sharing core. And I know that human perform superbly oop if done right. Perhaps our thinking process are the same when deciding which race to play for the era. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So they don't feel left out, The Collective declares war on the alcoholics as well | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lol i was wondering who would hit them first | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That would be me :-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
well here i am still alive and kicking whos next | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
~1 million gold ~75k food 75k Food? My farms produce 20-25 Food a tick or something because I only have 10-15k of them! The upkeep of a houses Swordsmen is similar to that of a houses peasant. Having 400k Swordsmen isn't ever going to hurt me either so long as food upkeep isnt an issue, I can always release them and train them into MU/other stuff.
You can't attack into 400k Swordsmen with Nazgul at this stage of the era and Upkeep is a non-issue as the defender. I ran into expected RL issues that left me limited on time, I haven't given up. If you attack a 100% wall s9 city with a non-AOTDable unit you are going to have to prep it for days and days only to be slammed into at any% (for injury/damage) by swordsmen and then 100% slaughtered by AOTD-Knights.
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New players in our kingdom ask me what do they mean "humans are best if you play them right, humans are best if you play them correctly" | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
As humans on manta I always drop 2 25k cities after I get my armory pop. Then if left alone save for land drop. If not you have alit of flexibility especially with human mobilization. Always played human that way minus land drop...only started that recently :/ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Even though we had the upper hand a little bit, now I am pretty sure Mal is the main force for winning this eta. When you compare Mal to The Collective, you can see few obvious differences. Some might say it was my personal mistake. Starting points: Maleficent -alcoholics on their west -measuring stick south The Collective -dirty birds south -mal north east -alcoholics north -test south east -random south Mal does not fight alcoholics They fight measuring stick and then suddenly stop when we come Means they either cf or NaP The collective NaP Random Fight everyone else My explicit order. This is a game of war and diplomacy, and I might have taken more than we can chew, considering now we fight the entire map while Mal fights us. Still if we ever win as a kingdom I rather kill everyone except one small size kd ally, than to have 3-4 alive kingdoms in the end. We still have to learn much, but even now I can say these new guys are great, we have Hirogen fighting alcoholics by himself, but I dont know just how many alcoholics are playing, so far Hirogen is killing them. Other two new players have good armies and even experiencing with magic this era. Our main mage plays rarely and not very experienced, nor too active but still performs well. Even though I might have made mistakes of going for everyone, I still think I would do everythink the same. Fact is if Ryan or Kd Test were near Mal things would be different. Now we have to invest 3-4 large armies to keep them in their cities... In the end we will most likely get run over by Mal. Still as long as we are enjoying the era I am happy :-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Correction: If Jack of DB (not Ryan) or Kd Test were in Mal area, would be different. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
MAL and my kingdom don't have any official relations as far as i know. They attacked and we were not ready so when you distracted them we decided to take the time to get war ready :P if MAL had kept pushing they likely could of beaten us | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Definitely an extremely active and fun era so far :-) Seven- you narrowly escaped a very bad situation when i failed my ROF :-) Good era thus far everyone thoroughly enjoying it! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
When was that? When I was preparing on Crustaal's city? You know I had 67% with 2 more ticks to full prep that would take me to over 80%, even waited till 1 am but then you locusted just when I was about to go for it lol It was fun cause when I attacked you guys I killed half of Cristaal's army, Von's first army, slaughtered Bart's main army and was about to kill other half of her army but you saved her. Due to reinforcements being far we are retreating :-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yeah I had a 42% for an ROF and knew that if I had success on cast 1, subsequent casts would be easier since your mage count would've been reduced... It may have meant ROF three or four times until Rora could've gotten a slaughter. Definitely a good offensive you guys just ran out of gas. :-) I applaud your new players for their efforts and offer to them any advice in which they might want to know. I'm mostly a mage so magic questions are obviously those I can answer best. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I will confirm Mal and MS have a CF. I kind of over estimated The Collective and under estimated the rest of the map. I thought The Collective had the rest of the map pretty much locked down, my LoS in west is very limited. I didn't realize only 2-3 players was all they would be sending at Mal. Had I known, I wouldn't have offered the CF. Truth be told Mal could have over run my KD very early. I have no idea why they didn't commit the resources to do so. Bart was really the only player sending armies at us and he was sending them in either small armies, which we could kill or sent them with few to no mages, which we would RoF. Had he sent just one consolidated army with proper mage count, we wouldn't have been able to stop it. Additionally, if Edd, Crystal, and Von all sent armies at us, we would have been outmatched and over run. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Back at the beginning of the era we had 2-3 people with less to no time to play, and thats where the talk of disban came from, but we all agreed we will stay and play with low activity, considering we were doing quite well. But now that we lost some of the armies of people that are active, I think you guys doing the CF and avoiding Test to attack us, pretty much determines what this era is going to be. I guess we took on too much, and now it will be only downwards for us. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Avoiding test? The second we stopped fighting MAL we attacked test...They only had a handful of cities , graveyard and surrounded left , the other two or three they had we burned to the ground before sieging surrounded and prepping on graveyard. We then realised we hadn't brang enough troops to take either and pulled back. then YOUR kingdom began casting freeze's etc on our armies in the area so we attacked you. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Infact I personally messaged your kingdom saying we was going to war with test and got no reply. So it did not make sense , when you already had most of the gains from fighting test , for us to come in against the armies hiding in GT cities and take a bunch of losses for what were basically worthless cities that we couldn't hold when you attacked us. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The only message I got from you was you asking are we gonna fight you guys or Mal, to which I replied we are going on full retreat. You sent a message to Aisha showing her messages between you and Kingdom Test about your talks about NaP, but they refused so then you offer to help us? Which makes no sense considering I took most of their cities, or they wrecked it, so that they only have 2 left that you guys can't touch. Shortly after you guys started sending troops our way so we had to freeze but only after you started the aggression. Considering we lost our battle against Mal and we failed to control Jack and Barny, and due to Maleficent fighting nobody but us, this era is pretty much over. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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