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I want in. | ||||||||||||
This is a good idea in theory, and sounds like fun, but its been done before. What ends up happening in practice is friends end up secretly teaming up on everyone else, and those others are easily eaten up, now without the protection of at least some KD. Then, when only friends are left, a nasty web of NAP/MAP develop and the era ends up as a long farming spree. Also, the entire world will be haflers and no magic will be developed. It becomes a pure melee fest of a single race, which reduces strategy to that of 'pump or out pump' Its been done in the past/before on other worlds. Not once, but multiple times. No KD eras, and what ended up happening was a long, unnecessarily protracted era where once the easy fodder is eaten up everyone becomes so timid and decides to play defensive. Not to mention it requires near 24/7 activity if you to survive. So skill and tactics are not even on display. Just how many bonus turns you can afford coupled with how little of a RL you have. This is a fun Idea, but a special world would have to be created for it with special rules/circumstances in place by Zeta. Otherwise, it just ends up as a long nasty mess. Very similar to the idea of boats. | ||||||||||||
@Sorra, now I understand why you are cowering under your KD against me and the 6-man KD of BDSM. | ||||||||||||
Cowering because I have participated in no KD eras in the past, multiple times seen it unfold the same way everytime and understand the game Mechanics? I don't know what to say? Good for you? | ||||||||||||
Well, It'd be willing to do this as a Dwarf.. so not just Haflings :P though, I do understand as a Dwarf I'll probs be pwned. | ||||||||||||
HEAR ME ROAR , ORC TIME | ||||||||||||
Why does KH/KHS Armies near me are running away? Why I am the one chasing them around instead the one defending my core? Isn't your numbers aren't good enough? | ||||||||||||
only army other than yours worthy of the time on the map is darkmoors :P | ||||||||||||
@binh I'm in, and not as a halter! Lol | ||||||||||||
As era comes to an end, lets discuss awards for the era :) | ||||||||||||
Kingdom victory: | ||||||||||||
Kingdom victory: | ||||||||||||
Aww I love you too SFD ;) And thanks Evansss, it was a great OOP. Unfortunately the rest of the era wasn't quite as good for me. Good fight! I'd give best kingdom to BDSM. They did a lot with their terrible positioning and few members. | ||||||||||||
Companion Knights are good, but hardly can claim the best kingdom this era. They were not pressured at all this era, we did not attack them till late era, I have been on the east part of the map. Basically only people that attacked Companion Knights are Omega, Reid and Sorra (and I attacked later with half my army.
Now I do not know if they died 16 days ago by Companion Knights, but that is who was putting pressure on them. If it was Pascal that killed them both 16 days ago, then thumbs up for that! So 16 days nobody went there exept me and Sorra, Sorra got killed by that Troll and I was bounced by Human army. They do have lots of battles, but that is mostly in the same area, they take cities, we come and retake, they take again and so on. Then we got new player Polyduces, he went inactive in middle of war and his cities got taken, which gave your kingdom more battles and more kills. You did not leave your corner of the map at all, just spread a bit, as soon as we rush at you, you move to your corner. And the post you made on forums "why are you running away from me?" I do not know if you are acting like you do not know gameplay or what, but I hope you do not mean farmed up halfer beats farmed up human with 200k city. I know you are better than that. You did well, holding so long but without real pressure. However with the lack of real good player this era I do think you did best in the world overall best player should be Pascal that is for sure. Best farmer: How can it be Von Darkmoor when he is actually doing some fighting and not really farming, and how can it be Bob Dylan when he was never on top of HoH and Aisha is there claiming she is not farming and she keeps all her armies in cities and does nothing all era, and claiming she is not going for era win ccc :P Worst player Probably Kath for talking crap a lot on forums and then get beat up by me in his corner of the map, and then saying he did goood, and that I suprised him or what ever he said :) Worst Kingdoms: KH and KHS for allowing Learner to get killed by kingdoms that should not stand a chance against our numbers. Thumbs up for BDSM for having a nice kingdom, holding for a long time, even thought in the end you did not stand a chance, you gave up only in the very end. Our numbers were just too big. Companion Knights, also good job, you did best you could to be honest. Worst idea: Thinking people will be realistic and give objective view of the era, when all they do is simply troll and write lame posts, that have nothing objective about them. If you think someone did well, congratulate them. | ||||||||||||
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You can't possibly know who has the best army in the world as you did not eits every single city out there. But agreed, if farmer needs to go out and fight, then you are right, Von Dorkmoor would be the one. | ||||||||||||
well i could see HoH armies and cities and i knew what race's most were (at the time) so i could take a lucky guess it was the best army :P | ||||||||||||
I agree to Leila, CK cannot get the best KD. Why? Because more than half
of the era I was alone so there is no basically that you can call a KD. I've got 1 member who don't even respawn so I kicked him after I accepted Maverick.
Although I disagree how can I cannot be pressured when I'm alone and there is 3 players threatening my core. That's the reason I couldn't have any expeditionary forces to launch when I need to defend 2 blockers alone plus inactivity. So I needed to sat on my blockers until Maverick can defend one of the blockers. Eventually I managed to kill Reid after that and kill some big armies that lurking near my core. Oh, I remember I constantly got annoying message from Sorra that time, even if he had only pathetic armies who invaded me a couple of times but failed eventually. I also receive KD invitation while he seem to realized that he is just doing some futile efforts. As our numbers was only 2 that time, I cannot go farther away from our core as there is always constant threat of big armies that's why I only marched within southeastern tile of the map. Also part of my plan is to conquer and reconquer small cities as I manage to loot some great treasures from them. Regarding my post 'why are you running away from me?', I only posted it after I launched my biggest army and all your armies near me were scattered and running away so I don't want to chase because of my inactivity. So saying that there are no real pressure at all was crap. I also nominate myself for Best Magic User as I managed to repel OOP attackers using RoF mutiple times and managed to use Freeze effectively that made me kick and slaughtered some big armies. And of course the very obvious STGing that keep me alive. Oh, I wanna thank you all for your cheap stones. I think I profited more than 500m on it. :P | ||||||||||||
I second that cheap stone. It was nice stuff!! | ||||||||||||
Kingdom victory: BDSM - Stuck together under pressure , played as hard as we could in the face of overwhelming odds Players awards: Best overall player: Evans (BDSM) - powerhouse oop , and saved core many times during era from large dwarf armies Best out of protection player: Evans (BDSM) - Zerk armies at oop time ... magic Best late era player: Von (KH) - with his zerker army , Paschal (CK) - his Knight Army Best farmer ( i am changing this to 'Best recovery from near death" Jasmine (KHS) - Knew it would happen and it did :-) Best magic user: whoever was casting for KH | ||||||||||||
I love era rewards. I cant believe I forgot about these and the flame wars they created. This is great. Here is my opinion on the matter Best Kingdom BDSM (No arguments there) Best player I find this one hard. Id like to say Arthur for being active and kicking ass, Woden for the same but at same time BDSM had some pretty beast players themselves. Worst player I voluntarily vote for myself. Traitor of the era None Farmer of the era Guys have any of you seen an army of mine the entire era huh? Flame away! member if no1 can agree its Chalkz. | ||||||||||||
yas T over 200k advents or something if i remember correct, but thats what 3/4 days worth of training for a none fighting halfer :P | ||||||||||||
Bingo!!! I have a few large armies somewhere but at this point im just throwing them at bobs 2 cities. will he kill them. pretty sure. will I stop? prob not. | ||||||||||||
lolol is bob still alive rofl | ||||||||||||
ya I didn't even realize it until id say a few days ago. | ||||||||||||
has he done anything since i left? | ||||||||||||
no. tbh im just being an ahole. Hes sitting in his cities minding his own business. I really should just gather all the troops together and try to take it but...well.. era is kinda decided. | ||||||||||||
15:37:35 - All troops in Chain of Memories have died. 15:37:35 - Chain of Memories lost a battle against Swords from Lord Paschal. We lost 0 Swordsmen, 0 Archers, 13652 Knights, 0 Magicians, 0 Catapults and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured. 15:37:19 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 3141 troops burned to death. 15:37:02 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 3931 troops burned to death. 15:36:58 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 4894 troops burned to death. 15:36:53 - Lord Paschal attempted to cast a spell upon us. 15:36:49 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 6404 troops burned to death. 15:36:46 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 8006 troops burned to death. 15:36:30 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 10007 troops burned to death. 15:36:27 - Lord Paschal attempted to cast a spell upon us. 15:36:23 - Lord Paschal attempted to cast a spell upon us. 15:36:19 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 12509 troops burned to death. 15:36:15 - Lord Paschal attempted to cast a spell upon us. 15:36:11 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 15636 troops burned to death. 15:36:04 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 19545 troops burned to death. 12:00:13 - There are no buildings left in Bllooccckk. The city now lies in ruins! 06:59:23 - Our city, Hoasfi has been liberated! Mr. Herojdp IV has freed our people. - See older newsLord Paschal After what your magic did to my other armies I honestly didn't wanna go near any of your cities. | ||||||||||||
@Herojdp, haha! your 97k Knights in exchange of my 20k MUs. :P | ||||||||||||
@Evans, | ||||||||||||
Either way your campanion knights are doing very well. | ||||||||||||
hurry up and end mann wtf is taking so long -_- | ||||||||||||
They still can't penetrate our little core. :P | ||||||||||||
guys just forget about him lol, always time to get him next age so hurry up :P | ||||||||||||
Oh, crap! I failed AotDing my army with 450k MUs. We are totally dead now. -_- | ||||||||||||
hahaha, message zeta and tell him to end the world asap so next age you can say you didnt die :P | ||||||||||||
Hahaha! Right! :D | ||||||||||||
Waiting on arma from zeta atm. | ||||||||||||
you mean 20 people and no arma caster...... nice ;) | ||||||||||||
Funny situation. | ||||||||||||
Exactly, you have no idea what KH and KHs have planned. Maybe we just wanted to clear the map for a total war between the to, want to see which faction is better, or other such similar things. You have no idea and have no right to ask for Arama. As Leila said, the only people who have the right to ask for Arama is are the victorious Kingdom. This is something known in VU. I dont know why this even needs to be explained. | ||||||||||||
ok if you want to war them............ how about you dont be the "same" KD next time? simple. | ||||||||||||
either way there are plenty of people with many anticipations for the following era. For example the FFA. I know for a fact a few kh members are interested and I personally would like to see the outcome. I believe overall resetting starta ASAP will be in the COMMUNITY's best interest. Though also at the same time its up to the victors to decide. We already have however asked for arma. | ||||||||||||
Are the current KD's on Starta ok with the FFA? We would really appreciate that no kingdoms would be on the map. | ||||||||||||
Though also at the same time its up to the victors to decide. We already have however asked for arma. | ||||||||||||
How is it waste of my time?
You can take a look at most fearsome list. Out of six of them, its Pascal, Evans, and Arthur from KH Redicule,Hero and me, all KHS (Redicule just recently joined KH afterhe was accidently kicked out of KHS) By the way, Jasmine was holding Maui in their core, as he was not able to move north to attack because she was close, he knew that if he leaves his core is in danger. and we had Sorra, Redicule and Jasmine at the same time there, so he could not attack either. Not to mention cooperation between KH and KHS, into allowing this to move a bit north, so that KH can freeze it and Learner of KHS to slaughter it. 21:18:15 Dec 29th 13 - Ms. Jasmine: Taste Sweet from Lord Steal For Drugs Gaia:2 Hammerthrowers:0 Ogres:120712 Shamans:78736 Nazguls:1716 Peasants:0 That was Dec 29th, still all us doing stuff, while most of KH was farming those armies for the final attack. Never thought that was the idea,to let people farm so they can finish the war, because that is what is needed sometimes. P | ||||||||||||
Very well put Leila. Yes KHS and KH are to be treated as one kd. call it Kingdom Hearts Kingdom if youd like or KHKD. Either way coordination was key between the kingdoms and Selos and Koss were INSTRUCTED to farm those armies. As for honor besides one specific individual all parties involved have been very diplomatic and respectful and i would be more than happy to fight them again next era. Honestly if they had a secure coreid like to think with the members they have now (had less when it started) they would do extremely well. Also id like to point out there are really no hard feelings here since a good chunk of members from BDSM are friends and Kd mates ive played with for a very long time. cept SFD. he aint a friend more like a fly on the wall that just happens to be everywhere i go. | ||||||||||||
Why are we still arguing over this ? BDSM lost , we fought valiantly but in the end we lost , and the whole you guys farmed all era while we warred is mute .. look at the scoreboard ... And like posted above every empire has members who are told to farm up large mid/late era armies difference with BDSM we didn't have that luxury because of well organised work between KH and KHS and didnt have the numbers but hell thats war Only thing that 'got up my nose' was sorras 'propaganda speeches ' in the forum and in private messages which is why there was some heated messages between our leader and KH/KHS members . But even this was part of the war .. 'get into the heads of the enemies' and they may do something which will give us a advantage . So well done KH/KHS and since its your world this era do as you will , because thats your right all of us that have fallen there and all the ones waiting will have to do just that ..wait .. :-) | ||||||||||||
LoL! Who said I'm sure that Zeta will heed to my request? Of course I know it is the victors decision. I just assumed that since I'm near death, KHS/KH have the same thought. What I don't know is that you might have another lame idea of prolonging the era. | ||||||||||||
That is strange, I thought two votes for no would not end it right away.
Thank you all for a nice era. Congrats to everyone who thinks they played well. And good luck to you all who are staying on Starta. Take care! | ||||||||||||
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