Valhalla 40

Valhalla 40
05:30:30 May 14th 16 - Stelius* (Mr. Malak II):* All I have to say is this era needs to end lol
05:36:31 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: First of all, I wouldn't even attack an enemy unless provoked much less an ex-kingdom mate. Second, I'm preparing defense against Bidi lest he pursues to attack me again as I see him amassing troops in his city near my north-east territory, hence the movements of my armies. Third, I'm not stupid enough to trust the remaining Titans that they will not be hostile without confirmation that they wont, nevertheless I still give them the benefit of the doubt and wait for the first punch to come from them until I attack. And you call me dishonourable? - Well i know from experience, and many examples have happened along the way that it is a considered possibility. Sure i might be a whackjob, but it is a sincere and considered possibility that you would "flip sides". Since you know The Titans were at war with HnS, and joining them after, it gives off a huge consideration about what the possibilities. Even you should know and see that if you were in my position, and i flipped sides, you would thought a very similar mind. I don't blame that you wanted to join HnS, but in my position as still within The Titans, this is a very dishonored act (been playing this game for years and know the unofficial rules among honor and dishonor). If you respectfully not entering the war against The Titans, then i am not worried. I have been planning to join H&S since I lost all respect to Vivi after that "you should be playing the sims instead comment" but he's been MIA shortly after that and thought it unfair to be jumping ships when you'd be warring 2 strong kingdoms so I decided to single handedly take on KoH(with some exemptions) even tho I knew full well that it'd be a losing battle for me without the slightest magic support. But after one of the Titan's vices decided to disband, I deemed it not necessary any longer to be delaying KoH as it'd be more or less a fair fight between the recovering members of KoH and the restructured kingdom of Titans aka From the Ashes. From what universe did you get the impression that i'm attacking the remainder titans you butt!? - Well we all have lost respect for Ajax aka Vivi. Though as a player, a war against HnS is simply not something i can just leave because of survival or the fact the leader of HnS threatened everyone to dissolve or face annihilation. Rather lose of dignity than surviving with the alliance that threatened to kill you off if you didn't leave. You may have thought you were singling on just warring KoH, but you were not, it was myself and a couple others of The Titans warring KoH too. Vivi asked me to move, but i decided to help take out a couple significantly strong bases alongside with the few others in the area too. Unfortunately, HnS and Ajax had a dispute, i had to retreat, it was unfortunate that you played by yourself on one side. But you did very well and we had the very highly of you, in that thought that you were taking care of war on your own on one side and we had another taking care of the other side. One of the vices disbanded because he saw the note about getting an amnesty if he left. So he and others decided that the best to survive was to leave and continue playing under a different banner. Those who remain in The Titans, wanted what was left of a war or whatever. but it seems that this issue relating demands for cities/territories and then amnesty among former The Titan members and as well what's left of The Titans is now just a huge mess created by HnS. Yeah sure i am a little whacky, but nonetheless, you have to see this as a dumb mess created by the leadership of HnS. This has also given me a significant reduction of respect to those who tactfully threaten people to be given amnesty and have you join making it look like an "easier" win of a war. Honestly, i am dumbfounded that this tactic had to be used. But whatever, everyone doesn't care about the honor system anymore. Ajax abused it, the leadership of HnS is abusing it, so whatever.
05:37:44 May 14th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: From my perspective: In the lead up to Armageddon, Vivi cancelled peace with us and marched to 'wipe us out'. We pushed back. He allowed arma to stop. The war waged on and slowly turned. 1) We were approached by a faction, led by Baron Gandalug, seeking Peace. What we wanted out of it was territorial integrity. That meant the armories that had been built up right on our border either needed to be seized or needed to be burned. 2) We extended an offer for peace, operating under the assumption that almost all of The Titans was led astray by Vivi and Valhalla, that the majority of them didn't want the conflict. As such, we negotiated a way wherein those who no longer wanted to war us would leave The Titans and join From The Ashes. We had anticipated The Titans to be a derilict Kingdom, with Only Vivi in it, should he return. He abandoned you, it would only seem fair for you all to abandon him. 3) We were surprised that so few members were leaving The Titans but seemed, instead, interested in maintaining conflict. Aside from Baron Gandaluh, not a single former Titan ever expressed interest in Peace. We had moved armies in preparation to claim the cities that would secure our territorial integrity. 4) In light of the fact that The Titans (larger than we anticipated them to be, as we assumed essentially every player would migrate over to the new KD) moved armies toward our cities. We could only assume this meant that you intended to attack us, as it was in direct proximity to our cities (Lovechild, in particular). Had the remaining Titans (which we had assumed would be Vivi) wanted Peace, they should have (and still can) contact us. No such leader has done any such thing. The only threat being posed to our territorial integrity is by armies controlled by The Titans, moving on us. As such, we have renegotiated with From the Ashes, and are isntead moving to reclaim cities taken from Mr. Spoook and to destroy the armories built adjacent to Mr. Lovechild's city. This is what has transpired. No fluff. These were our observations, and this is what drove our decision making. Our end goal is, and has always been Low LOW prices for all of Valhalla. That only happens when we can focus on economic development. That only happens when we aren't forced into conflicts we didn't want (Like by The Titans). So we are left with either needing to end the conflict via diplomacy or War. We have worked towards that with a portion via the formation of From the Ashes. No remaining members have contacted us about peace. Rather, we have been insulted, mischaracterized, and demeaned. We are a predictable Kingdom. We will play the role of merchants. We want profit, not land.
05:59:04 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: In the lead up to Armageddon, Vivi cancelled peace with us and marched to 'wipe us out'. We pushed back. He allowed arma to stop. The war waged on and slowly turned. 1) We were approached by a faction, led by Baron Gandalug, seeking Peace. What we wanted out of it was territorial integrity. That meant the armories that had been built up right on our border either needed to be seized or needed to be burned. - Well if you want Spook's liberation of cities under The Titan's banner, you opt to have the remainder who are still within the group to be under new reforms of leadership with just us 3 members (excluding Vivi) to be at peace. We shall leave our remaining Northwest cities from where Woody is at now as neutrality, non-aggression. Any attacks on each other declares war again. 2) We extended an offer for peace, operating under the assumption that almost all of The Titans was led astray by Vivi and Valhalla, that the majority of them didn't want the conflict. As such, we negotiated a way wherein those who no longer wanted to war us would leave The Titans and join From The Ashes. We had anticipated The Titans to be a derilict Kingdom, with Only Vivi in it, should he return. He abandoned you, it would only seem fair for you all to abandon him. - Even with Vivi abandoning us, we those who remain feel that we honor what we have left of ourselves with who we are that excludes the figurehead of Vivi. Since he is gone for 2 weeks, we have no worries if you wish to exterminate Vivi and Valhalla, we have no objections of the real targets you are after. Having more people alive to potentially perform Arma is more benefit than elminating 4 less people. 3) We were surprised that so few members were leaving The Titans but seemed, instead, interested in maintaining conflict. Aside from Baron Gandaluh, not a single former Titan ever expressed interest in Peace. We had moved armies in preparation to claim the cities that would secure our territorial integrity. - You know from like 8 to 10 members, we're down to 4 (including Vivi). So honestly about half to more than half have left to find amnesty. We were still thought in battle until Baron Gandaluh mentioned your proposals. He did take initiative, but alas we also who have what honor is left in The Titans, shall remain either in victory or death, that is how the game shall be played. We only moved armies ourselves to defend ourselves like you do when you secure your own territorial integrity. 4) In light of the fact that The Titans (larger than we anticipated them to be, as we assumed essentially every player would migrate over to the new KD) moved armies toward our cities. We could only assume this meant that you intended to attack us, as it was in direct proximity to our cities (Lovechild, in particular). - Lovechild raided our core, and then left. He is a close proximity to our borders and as in "territorial integrity", we also have armies to secure that position. But as i said, make that area a non-aggression area. So even with our large armies there, it be a non-aggression area. Not every person would migrate, some still have to dignity to fight the long fight and be in a losing fight in The Titans. We are a predictable Kingdom. We will play the role of merchants. We want profit, not land. - Merchants want land, because built land produces more wealth and profit. I find that hard to believe that even as the role of merchants, land is still a incredible commodity of creating possible significant wealth. As well, i am contacting you here now :P I have been busy in real life since many people have quit in my line of work. So i am just getting this information for the first time from a bit. So when i see all the changes so far, this is what i am saying right now from my own perspective.
06:05:39 May 14th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: The only thing stopping me from all out peace right now is that I have alot of members who have been playing defensive for weeks because of a massive team coming down on us relentlessly. Finally we all have nice armies built up, and no one to use them on. It almost seems unfair because it does take weeks to get to that level. At the same time, it is not our goal to strike fear into the hearts of our customers. Obviously we need land to produce, but at the same time, there is a return on investment with having to defend vast tracts. Communication with a Kingdom takes time as people have to log in at different times, etc. At this point, I would sort of like to see Zeta cast Armageddon and then all of us make up, and decide that everyone fights everyone and just see where the last 10 days of the era goes. My people will be disappointed at this peace because of having finally got nice advanced armies, and we are a company, not a dictatorship, so I would like for them to chime in here.
06:05:44 May 14th 16 - Erica* (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):* The problem is that you just assumed without dialogue Pang Tong. I was not given amnesty for joining, A vice of Titans stood up and took the offer for surrender. Meaning THE WAR IS OVER, or it should have been at least after a vice (in the absence of the leader) decided for a surrender. Your code of honor is flawed if you still think I joined protection. There was practically no chain of commands whatsoever and I asked if someone wanted to take the reins of leadership among the vices and when someone actually stood up to take it, you question their decision... that my friend is dishonorable. A warrior graciously accepts defeat when their leader does. If you have spoken up and gave your word of no surrender, I might have even followed and probably fallen with the rest of the remaining titans carrying that code of honor, but was for naught. With the war against KoH I meant when after a while after Vivi went inactive. Sure they were battered but they were quickly recovering which everyone else seem to fail to acknowledge seeing as "they are done for at the moment."
06:18:29 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: As i said, i was away in real life myself. So my perspective is indeed correct until corrected. War is not over. Like Bigfield said, may as well go for the free for all. So anyone who thought "war is over", finds that now suddenly they're back in it. So obviously this "war is over", is obviously a dumb announcement that goes all against what Bigfield announced himself. Vivi denounced his own code of honor and we are willingly to fight along the mud that our honor of death shall remain the same. You left because yeah you left of Vivi, but you left of war to be with the top dog now. Honestly, that is something you chose, not what i would have done myself. But i'm not you, so i'm not worried. Bigfield, you offer amnesty, but now you farmed up an army and you announced amnesty and asked for cities back and now you want war again. Honestly, make up your mind. People who have left hoping to find peace is now on the sudden findings you announced war among everyone again. Is your words meaningless to those who attempted to agree on your terms now backed out by you like Ajax and Valhalla with you in the beginning of the era? As i said, been away, so finding this out now. I have given you an answer. But it is up to you if you wish to agree upon it or wish to continue war. A war is war and you announced an option when you could have kept on going. But either way, i am giving you an option that your "farmed" invested armies are good now for only HoH points if you are just seeking to end the era.
06:28:39 May 14th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: I'm fine with ending the war. I've got less than a quarter million troops, MUs included. And I know other members of my KD are spent, but some others that had been on defense all along are now finally able to fight. I invited my co workers to comment on this thread as, again, I'm not a dictator. If I was, I'd suggest ending the war, and casting Arma. Or having a free for all in a corner of the map because no one likes waiting for the world to end sitting on armies. That said, I'm fairly certain Lady K could take on the rest of us and still last it out. At this point the era has played on for a month and I am ready for a fresh map and fresh start. We are really wanting to focus in on being in character.
06:31:20 May 14th 16 - Erica* (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):* Real life is seperated from this game and should never be used as alibi for your obvious shortcomings. As it is true that real life is more important, it doesn't free you from the sin of negligence given your post as vice leader.
06:35:04 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: Visual Utopia requires activeness, and as a job dedicated on the outside of using the internet like what most people have to be there and play. I dont have the luxury. So "if" it is a sad excuse for an alibi for the "alleged" incompetence, sadly you are misinformed
06:41:29 May 14th 16 - Mr. Dastan The Dragonor: I agree with Pang Tong.
06:45:47 May 14th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: I can't speak to intra party matters on The Titans, but I do know life can inhibit one from checking messages and being on top of everything. I can see where I can improve as a leader. Part of that may be clearly deliniating roles and limits on power. It can take 48 hours to hear back from everyone in a KD. Sometimes a leader needs a degree of leeway to act in emergency situations and those need to be outlined. This is my first time leading a Kingdom.
07:03:27 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: I have no problems Bigfield as it is your first time, and you should continue to lead, not too shabby for a first time. Why I am not a leader, usually just a soldier of war :-P I have a voice and offer opinions and experience, but otherwise, leadership roles aren't good, and politics like these are always messy. But i hope for a new era too, fresh start, new politics
07:44:39 May 14th 16 - Erica* (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):* Then you should not have any qualms with someone active enough to make the decisions for the kingdom. Your issues are your issues alone. If it renders you unable to object decisions made at your absence then that's not the problem of the rest of the kingdom.
07:53:38 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: When people left like yourself, you relieved yourself from all duties. Now it is up to the remainder who is here and now in The Titans. So all decisions now rendered fall onto myself and others. So concerning yourself from the issues you have dealt has been dealt by joining HnS. Now they decide on decisions in their own kingdom and for The Titan, you seem to forget that now
08:03:15 May 14th 16 - Erica* (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):* I left after the surrender was accepted by the vice leader without being contested by the other vices. You seem to forget that now. I only abided by the decision of a vice leader to disband then either join the new kingdom or join H&S which was prior to what have been posted on the Titans kingdom forum. Or should I have assumed that you'd go out of being inactive and contest your opinion and object on the decision?
09:15:35 May 14th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing: MY EYESSS!!! so much wall of texts that i just didnt read most of it...One thing i notice is that you guys are arguing over an era that is more or less over. Lets have zeta cast arma, and we can sort it out next era, shall we? :) Forget about this era - winners, losers - doesn't really matter.
17:57:54 May 14th 16 - Runelord Arkan* (Mr. Arkan of Aegis):* Yeah I'm done with the wall of texting. I've been interested in the diplomacy created by these events and I do stand by Mr. Bigfield but it has come to the point where the world is in chaos and rightfully needs an armageddon as Chade says. Somebody write more concisely for my poor patience's sake, thanks!
18:03:07 May 14th 16 - Tyrin* (Mr. Thuper Thenthitive):* You guys are no fun, I was enjoying the mini novels.
20:13:15 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: Im sure you were Tyrin
20:16:15 May 14th 16 - Prince Chade: honestly, lets continue the novels next era :) Zeta - PLEASE!!!!!
21:41:14 May 14th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: Its like the game of RISK that never ends :(
21:53:10 May 14th 16 - kalu* (Mr. Dorsohn The Daring):* I would like to announce my formal resignation from the Titans. I do this not for amnesty. My motivating factor is so that I can be my own sovereign dwarf kingdom, whose lands extends the far reaches of the vast valley mountain range I occupy in the south entrance to the Titans/FromTheAshes/HotMessKingdom core. I am closing the gates to my non-blocking cities, and I hereby name the territory Daredevil Valley. All who trespass shall die. Or walk around my non-blocking cities. That is all.
04:28:10 May 15th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: I've requested that Zeta end the world. Is there any other conflict still going? We have armies sitting around twiddling our thumbs at this point. I don't think anyone is warring anyone.
10:09:30 May 15th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing: not that i am aware of.. Ive also messaged zeta yesterday to end both Valhalla and Fantasia
15:20:04 May 15th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: The Titans are still "warring" HnS as it appears Dragon of House of Baratheon :-P
19:43:29 May 15th 16 - errorwick* (Shadow Warden Bahamut):* From the Ashes disbanded from the Titans because we no longer wanted to be apart of a leaderless Kingdom, and when we did have a leader, we did not support the HnS war, it was a decision made by Vivi without consulting anybody. Most of us didn't say anything as we figured the era would be over soon so oh well. Then Vivi left the arma city undefended - and from the point Iifa Tree was taken Vivi has been MIA. After criticizing one of our members on the importance to have defenses, he left the most important city undefended and took no responsibility. I doubt a real life situation caused his absence as being a Kingdom leader you would think you would have the decency to say Hey everybody, I have to leave, but instead we got nothing. No forum post, no messages, but he did log in for a couple more days before completely disappearing. -In our eyes, this was a rage quit. After witnessing this with absolutely zero follow-up from Vivi, Stelius and I decided next era we will join a different Kingdom - we don't want to be apart of this. Now we were stuck in a war with HnS that we didn't want, so we decided instead of trying to fight two wars in a broken Kingdom, we'll regroup and start our own with those who will follow. Our only quarrel with the Titans is Vivi and Valhalla going unresponsive. I have no animosity towards any other Titan members, and we were hoping the remaining active players would join us, but it looks like this wont be the case. The only thing I think we can all agree on is to cast arma. I thoroughly enjoyed my time in the Titans, but I'm done sitting on a sinking ship that the captain jumped off.
02:00:21 May 16th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: I don't think anyone is warring anyone. Some HnS armies are sitting around, but everyone knows not to attack. We are just waiting for the restart.
02:15:57 May 16th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: 15:03:13 - Jibbly lead by Mr. Nerdmuscle attacked and took over Well. They also took 126293 gold, 33597 stone, 13286 tree, 3389 food and 28 slaves from us! And 7142 of the peasants in the city where taken as slaves! We lost 0 Hobgoblins, 0 Rockthrowers, 0 Warlords, 0 Mages, 0 Berserkers and 7142 peasants in the battle.
10:56:56 May 16th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing: To all new players, from HnS and ashes, or titans or whoever is remaining that do not know Ajax and Poly (Valhalla). They two are RL friends and even if I don't know them personally, I have been fighting/been in a kd with both of them for years. Here, Im speaking from personal experience when I say Poly, always rage quits when things dont go his way, typically backstabbing before completely quitting, then Ajax takes over both accounts, his and Poly's (unconfirmed personal suspicions), tries some sh1t that never works, and rage quits too without giving a monkey about kd mates, etc. The only knobhead worse than them is Kath (Sesugh). But at least he is honorable enough to say something and notifies people before fcuking off!!
12:22:02 May 16th 16 - Dragon Prophet Theophilus: Pang Tong, fight him and take it back. He knew he wasn't supposed to, though at this point in the era it is inconsequential. We are wanting it to end.
13:54:30 May 16th 16 - Runelord Arkan* (Mr. Arkan of Aegis):* My axemen are sharpening sticks at this point.
14:46:21 May 16th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: Is anyone researching towarss Armageddon?
15:00:31 May 16th 16 - Erica* (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):* I am~ O7 Magic Level Level 2 Upgrading will cost 558,900,000 gold, 49,680,000 stone, 49,680,000 tree and 49,680,000 food. 253,942,283 25,206,496 54,943 97,000,774
15:40:01 May 16th 16 - Sir Ramza Beoulve: 6:22:02 May 16th 16 - Dragon Prophet Theophilus: Pang Tong, fight him and take it back. He knew he wasn't supposed to, though at this point in the era it is inconsequential. We are wanting it to end. - i unfornatuely cannot at the moment due to other resources being somewhere else :P
15:58:07 May 16th 16 - Princess Aisha: Arkan, your Axemen are sharpening sticks for what reason? Why do they neeed sharp sticks?
16:02:06 May 16th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing: maybe he is preparing sushi?
16:05:10 May 16th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: Dwarfs sharpen sticks when bored. Theres 10 million troops sitting around with 0 conflict.
16:17:11 May 16th 16 - Tyrin* (Mr. Longer Rulername):* Pretty sure it was a joke. He was implying the head of the axe had been completely worn off from sharpening it in waiting of a war that never came and now was only to only the shaft.
16:26:18 May 16th 16 - Stelius* (Baron Gandalug):* Bahamut is at magic level 8. I will check where he is at with saving income to get level 9.
16:53:40 May 16th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: That makes more sense lol. At any rate, anyone have any ideas on how to make the remaining time less boring?
17:07:03 May 16th 16 - Stelius* (Baron Gandalug):* Flash mob?
17:15:58 May 16th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: Everyone send all of their armies in an epic 4 way line up, in formations of XXXXX?
18:13:59 May 16th 16 - Stelius* (Baron Gandalug):* Write messages to each other with scout formations?
18:49:22 May 16th 16 - Runelord Arkan* (Mr. Arkan Deathpunch III):* 10 points to Tyrin. and Gryffindor.
13:23:35 May 17th 16 - Erica* (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):* They had 204136933 gold, 0 stone, 68634753 tree, 67009014 food and 280489 slaves in the city. We also took 4658 of their peasants for slaves! moar for my magic science! o/
14:14:32 May 17th 16 - Woody* (Mr. Lovechild):* Pang tong... Lovechild raided our core, and then left. He is a close proximity to our borders and as in "territorial integrity", we also have armies to secure that position. But as i said, make that area a non-aggression area. So even with our large armies there, it be a non-aggression area. Not every person would migrate, some still have to dignity to fight the long fight and be in a losing fight in The Titans. Why did you orc repeatedly attack me? It's supposed to be a non aggression area, I'm taking the orcs city as it what was agreed upon by ourselves and rest of titans, and now your sending a 500k army to my city? Dosnt seem like a non agressive area. Seems like your warmongering. I'm content to let this era rumble to a close without any further escalating of hostility after this orc city falls, even after your kds transgression. With your army heading this way it's not especially annoying as I had a chance to freeze and slaughter your army as you ran east, but opted to let you keep your army ad a continuity of peace , the very same army that's headed my way now.
15:45:01 May 17th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: Woody.... Why did you orc repeatedly attack me? It's supposed to be a non aggression area, I'm taking the orcs city as it what was agreed upon by ourselves and rest of titans, and now your sending a 500k army to my city? Dosnt seem like a non agressive area. - My orc member attacked you once my city and her city fell from the remaining aggression from HnS members warmongering through our negotiations for peace and tranquility. Dragon mentioned "I'm fine with ending the war. I've got less than a quarter million troops, MUs included. And I know other members of my KD are spent, but some others that had been on defense all along are now finally able to fight." Now those who were on the defensive wants to fight, so they got one, unfortunately that ended up that the Northwest ended neutrality as well because full peace was unfulfilled. If Dragon didn't have toss the "throw us a bone" move where we got decisions on how our end would be like: dissolving, returning certain cities for peace or any of NW neutrality part, Hammer and Shield would have owned the remaining of The Titans without some resistance. Would have been a much simpler, lesser drama/political era, just to the ones where Ajax and Poly rage quit and left unsavoury tastes in everyone's mouths. You and I would definitely agree if that "throw us a bone" decision was left out. We all be content on how the ending would turn out. But since the "throw us a bone" did happen, you see the mass drama and politics because now it was deciding how to form "territories", members of the fallen ex-The Titans on how they are going to be treated as, and to what the remaining The Titans was to be. Was it going to be war or peace. At fault is the leadership of HnS to be made of this decision, and this is the outcome it turned out to be. If we were not given the opportunity to decide our fates, you could have destroyed me and the main core, the defensive members were capable of attacking anyone. We would have potentially perished knowing full that Ajax and Poly raged quit and left us in the dark. I would be okay with that because we would have lost in one way and disbanding after the loss, era ending or whatever.
16:17:43 May 17th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer: It was my first ever time trying to lead. Mistakes were made, and lessons are learned. I think we can all agree this era is played out with all of its drama, and it seems you qould have preferred war to confused peace. I have a proposal: No one fights and everyone farms, no armiea in the field, for, all kingdoms until Monday of next week, and then everyone, every single kingdom, fights every other kingdom until only one Kingdom is on the map and Zeta is FORCED to restart.
16:32:10 May 17th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong: Dragon, you have lead before, called House of Baratheon in Mantrax and other times too. "I have a proposal: No one fights and everyone farms, no armiea in the field, for, all kingdoms until Monday of next week, and then everyone, every single kingdom, fights every other kingdom until only one Kingdom is on the map and Zeta is FORCED to restart." - I think you cannot do this because now you are suggesting that now "From The Ashes" is now a target set by your kingdom, and former member of The Titan is freely capable of targeting any of us ex-members of The Titans. You would then have made your choice of having them deciding to leave The Titans hopefully to farm for the rest of the era til Arma, now only to having to fight Hammer and Shield as if leaving The Titans were for not. Understandably your questionable decisions on how to act for the remainder of the era is far too questionable to be relied on til Arma. Best choice for you is just to sit this one out. Woody is mad, Nerdmuscle and Perilous are on a warmongering thirst to war what is left and you want to erase every negotiation you have had with everyone. Good job on "this era is played out with all of its drama", you certainly know how to create some :-P
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