Fant 23

Fant 23

17:23:59 Jan 15th 14 - Mr. Token of Lgc:

Speculation:

Mass Napping Noobery culminates in LGC's destruction.

LGC's end reminds everyone how stupid their agreements were, and how magnificently tailored to benefit the MODS those agreements have been.

As MODS laugh at the abysmal failures of diplomacy, Poodles will weep as they are being stomped out of existence with abject ease.

New Beo, will die. Hehe.

Enjoying your naps/cfs/agreements everyone? I can assure you, we have had the most fun to date.

18:11:44 Jan 15th 14 - Mr. Cry Lock:

LGC died to thoose who werent giving a fck. Wonder how LGC would seems like if they had more Binhs or even some fcks-giver other than a few. I honestly thought it would be easy to repell the attackers (vs LGC) with thier former KD size when they killed off Immortals the first time OOP and the attacks started to come from Poodles. There isnt any strong armies at the front other than the massive Zerk army from Binh, which was shown when a hoh halfer army got vaporized by it.

18:16:41 Jan 15th 14 - Mr. Diggity:

you want to date me?

18:54:16 Jan 15th 14 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

Mr. Bad Bell Mate

10:44:33 Oct 30th 13

LGC getting their excuses in early?

Pick any [or all] of the following:

BEO
BEO farmed in a corner.
BEO NAPed everybody.
BEO waited until LGC was fighting others before engaging.
BEO crosslog [Danwells new favourite!]
TBL has no life
X is abusable
Binh got grounded by his sister
LGC's allies were bad. Even though LGC never allies.
LGC went all halfers
LGC went all elves.
LGC doesn't care
LGC fought from OOP
LGC had a bad spawn
LGC had inactives

Seems apt.

I like how they've wheeled out the "you may have won, but we had the most fun" whimper, though. I remember pioneering that circa 2007. Don't believe a word of it lads. Deep down, LGC are absolutely seething. There will be internal disputes, fingers pointed, excuses made, threats to leave and general apathy from the vices. 2 days before the next era they'll recruit a few more randomers and go again with high hopes and baseless boasts.

They aren't happy they've lost. They're broken.

00:23:35 Jan 16th 14 - Mr. Sacredone:

Meh era needs to just end already though halfers really do need a point system fix -_- what is the era end going to look like 9 out of top 10 halflings?

00:49:40 Jan 16th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):

No one ever talks about me :-(

Maybe swiffer should join MODS. Or maybe our old pal Binh

02:32:07 Jan 16th 14 - Mr. Token of Lgc:

Swiffers would join MODS. It's the closest thing to LGC he'll ever get.

12:53:12 Jan 16th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):

I've always been an enemy of lgc. But have always been a respectful player.

20:26:29 Jan 16th 14 - Mr. Joneleth:

Meh era needs to just end already though halfers really do need a point system fix -_- what is the era end going to look like 9 out of top 10 halflings?

This has been the case since they where introduced.

00:18:51 Jan 17th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):

Halfers are new? Pardon me, I haven't been here long, I'm new to the game

01:41:28 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Paper Thick:

Im really hoping armaggedon goes through. OOP is more my style, I hate this end game stuff, I cant even field my 915k Ponies without excurciating money loss LOL. Definately the last time I play halfling too, I had no chance to get experience the whole game, Warlock did it right, Congrats.

03:16:21 Jan 17th 14 - Ms. Laura The Gold Miner:

halfers early mid game. dont bother with ponies if you want a big late game army. actually don't play halfing at all. they're hated.

03:36:12 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Paper Thick:

Yes, i did it for my OOP mage build, however as we were not in an OOP it did not matter. And i built ponies because I never managed to get experience, and advents are overpriced an ineffective unless you can get an experienced army to start roaming.

03:56:14 Jan 17th 14 - Ms. Drizzt Urden:

dont bother with ponies? yes... dont use one of there biggest advantages early to mid game...

04:01:33 Jan 17th 14 - Zond (The Cheating Abusing Mod):

He said don't bother if you want big late game army.. Plz read the entire thing before commenting. Ty

04:10:12 Jan 17th 14 - Ms. Drizzt Urden:

I did not realize either of you were experts on the matter, more nubs giving advice where they have no expertise.

04:15:24 Jan 17th 14 - Zond (The Cheating Abusing Mod):

seeing as i am, and ive had the pleasure of seeing your armies and cities.

ill take daveys side on this one.

and agree, if you want a strong late game army, you shouldnt make all those ponies. but its ok. i wonder in a few months who will you say you are.

06:46:46 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Paper Thick:

@ Zond, if you think about it a halflings options are ponies or advents. It is undeniable the lower maintenance cost of advents is a MAJOR benefit, however the 2.5x cost for 2 extra OP is a major disadvantage. And the choice usually comes at the question, do I have an experienced army. If you can get xp, using advents is far more advantageous and will produce gold quick enough to bypass the 2.5x cost difference, however with no xp this is not the case.

Doing some very simple math you see;
915,000 ponies = 732mil gold = 366,000 advents OR
5.49mil OP VRS 2.93mil OP

2.5mil op difference unadjusted, and factor in my mysterious military level that im going to pretend is 5 for easy math and you get even larger differences;
8.23mil OP VRS 4.4mil OP. nearly 4 mil OP difference, which, makes a huge difference.

There are many tactics in this game, many things to consider. And the fact that I can simply park my army in a city and I do not need to move it makes maintenance of little relevance.

In my early post I made no claim of making a mistake, I simply wished the era would end because I do not care for making this take another 15-20 RL days to get back to my true passion which is OOP/ Mid game.

06:57:24 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Paper Thick:

My math was wrong lol, I for some reason had it in my head advents were 2000 a pop, not 1900 a pop... so actual numbers are 385,000 advents = 3.08 mil gold.

But my point was that because in my position my whole job was to sit here and defend the rear, I dont have to worry about maintenance as much, so ponies were the logical choice.

09:45:14 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Cry Lock:

Woohooo i can use math and make numbers and show how good i can calculate! Woop woop.

Wait a min? In that case i gotta.. erm.. say this... 732m gold? isnt that 4.88m slingers? And what, isnt that 9.76m raw op/dp? and what isnt that.. more than ponies?

10:21:29 Jan 17th 14 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

you guys are begging for arma when theres still 5 kds alive not including an almost dead lgc?

fant really is the joke world this era.

shame on you.

13:03:05 Jan 17th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):

I like jokes. Dwarves rule halfers drool!!

These short eras suck, why y'all always want quick eras and only oop fighting to determine the whole era is beyond me. I thought that was the point of the lower worlds. Guess just restart the era as quick as possible and then try again till you can manage to start off in a safe spot for the era win.

14:22:28 Jan 17th 14 - Zond (The Cheating Abusing Mod):

I'm not saying don't train ponies, I'm saying there is a point at which you should stop. Unless the op is very much needed.

15:37:11 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Paper Thick:

Great! Crylock gets it!! Lol.

And zond, I agree completely with your statement.

19:18:28 Jan 17th 14 - McMax (Mr. Lookaround):

I'm not sure this era has ended...........

19:27:54 Jan 17th 14 - Ms. Laura The Gold Miner:

And the fact that I can simply park my army in a city and I do not need to move it makes maintenance of little relevance.

then don't complain about

I cant even field my 915k Ponies without excurciating money loss

19:45:46 Jan 17th 14 - Ms. Laura The Gold Miner:

btw, you're also paying for 4 extra dp, granted it's still 37.5 gold more per dp, but the stat is there, and it is an important stat, especially if you're "simply parking your army in a city" such as a blocker.

you also are assuming a perfect world with unlimited peasants. in reality, your limiting factor mid-late game before you field your army, more often than not, won't be your gold, but your peasants and armoury size.

19:58:33 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Token:

Laura lends her little helpers hands!

Pull up a chair newspaper. The master is at work

20:26:33 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Sacredone:

It hasnt they cancelled it an launched an attack on Poodles. Or those armies of theirs moving at us are just for show.

21:54:09 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Cry Lock:

Attack us! Swarm us with steamy banelings and roasted zerglings.

12:15:34 Jan 18th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):

I like to party

17:56:42 Jan 18th 14 - Timur (Sheriff Timur):

"You (1/6/2014 4:47:23 PM)

"we also are in a pickle jar of sorts. If we move on another KD.. And can't take them out quickly and lgc dies.. We have poodles armies in our core that are ready. "....

We faced the same problem. We saw your giant armies and held back armies in our core because we feared what would happen to our core when Legacy dies.

I forgot..did we agree to a 72 tick notice after legacy dies? or would you prefer a notice plus 120 ticks after the death of Legacy...5 days/120 ticks would normally allow armies to return from the front. This assumes you want to fight it out after legacy dies....

The Cheating Abusing Mod (1/6/2014 5:00:15 PM)

Well. As it stands we fight once the last lgc town falls. But I cf every KD.. So I fight everyone once they die. Didn't want to sit all era.

we saw the hoh city. And had someone ready for that. And then once knitler and mad died. We couldn't move. As we only have 2 fighting. And a mage. Others are afk. I know for sure I'm fighting immortals as I'm the only one who cf them. Everyone else naped them "

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Over the past 36 ticks or so, Mod Abusers asked if we would voluntarily end our CF with Mod Abusers to have a "1-1" war. I politely declined, explaining that Legacy was not dead (in fact, Binh's AOTD zerk Army had arrived in our core) and our biggest armies were still down south fighting Legacies remaining cities. I also explained that I did not know which way Phoons would jump, and Phoons, plus Mod Abusers plus Legacy would probably be a bit much.

Zond's position is that Poodles should have no problem as we were a big kingdom, and Mod Abusers was a small one. The numbers are a bit deceptive..Legacy tends to smash armies and put the player in rebuild mode and most of our players have been fighting Legacy. Can many smaller rebulding armies defeat Legacies and Mod Abusers large ones? Maybe, Maybe not.

Last night, Mod Abusers launched their attack, with some casting, and launching armies at Poodle cities in our shared core area. We messaged the individual Mod Abuser players, citing the CF conditions, and they all pulled off their attacks and pulled back.

This morning, it appears as Mod Abusers has had a change of heart; their armies have returned to prepping on our cities in clear violation of our CF.

My assumption was that Phoons and Mod Abusers would team up to fight Poodles after Legacy died.. I don't see why Mod Abusers has to violate a CF to get their war.

18:12:36 Jan 18th 14 - Fordius (Mr. Death Fordius):

Dont speak of Mod Abusers.
I have held my words and had no launched a single attack, I even had great contacts with ur kd and sort of warned for the scumbags in my kd :)

Now ur kd is launching an attack while I've been nothing but honerable and friendly vs ur kd.

Problem isn't that I can't retal that actually is the easy part.

But I don't want to be involved in this dick move and hope you guys keep ur word that you guys gave me.

We'll see what happens for the rest :P

Hope you all kill them assholes :D

21:40:38 Jan 18th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):

I didn't get any msgs :-(

I'll check my mailbox again

23:08:40 Jan 18th 14 - Princess Aisha:

There should be a list of unhonorable people.
NAP is something you never break in this game.
That is the only main rule.

These people I will write down and not consider them honorable.
I hope others will think again before offering relations to:

I am Locks XXX Slave
The Cheating Abusing Mod
Mr. Cry Lock
Duke Legacys Tape Worm
Mr. Death Fordius
Mr. Shyers The Adulterer

Even thought Legacy is about to die, thumbs up for being honorable always.
You are a great Kd, others should look up to you.

23:12:30 Jan 18th 14 - Bran (Mr. Bran Bran Monk):

we agreed to no such NAP with poodles

23:20:46 Jan 18th 14 - Mr. Perturbed:

I think Death Fordius is not attacking us and honoring the cf

23:22:36 Jan 18th 14 - Timur (Sheriff Timmur):

Death Fordius should NOT be on the above list. He napped Poodles as a tiny kingdom and specified when he joined Mods that the nap would hold in the event of a Poodle Mod war. He has explicitly honored his agreement, and even politely messaged when one of our players got confused and began to prep on one of his cities.

I don't really know about the other players in Mod Abusers, because I don't know what they are being told in their internal communications. Normally in VU you stick with a kingdom through out the era, and normally you follow orders from leaders. If they were to take offense, they should do so at era end.

Mod Abusers specifies in their kingdom description that they might lie. Maybe some of the players are roleplaying that style for an era. Given that kingdom description, it would be disingenuous if Poodles claimed to be terribly outraged or excessively caught by surprise.

23:34:36 Jan 18th 14 - Mr. Cry Lock:

Correct. Was a CF. I belive CF means "Do not projectile any hostile actions against eachothers" which means, no offensive moving, no offensive gathering, no offensive planning. If any of theese happenings really happends, the CF breaks on Auto. On several occasions this was happening from the other side.

A CF is not something legaly written or with any terms (NAP is on the other hand).

What happend here is that we wanted to break of the CF(Which was broken per auto before really), which we got all right to do because its no terms signed on a CF.

Rumors: Immortals and Poodles where about to team up against MODs after LGC died.

IF you remember the WW, they had a CF during christmastimes.

Anyone reaching out agaisnt me may take it on skype and drop it off the forums. Skip all replies here as a civil act. via.dolorosa.warlock

23:34:43 Jan 18th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):

I thought we were cheaters! I shoulda known!

As a rule of thumb I never break a NAP. Never have never will.

00:21:16 Jan 19th 14 - Mr. Sacredone:

Note this era would already be over had you just let it end instead you MOD decided to break the CF an not let the era end. It MODS that initiated this not Poodles.

Since when was a CF no terms? The terms were quite obvious we wouldnt attack you so long as you didnt attack us. The CF would end when the last Legacy city fell. End of story. No arguing that. You agreed to them. We didn't attack you. You attacked us. Legacy cities still stand. So who broke what agreement now?

00:46:03 Jan 19th 14 - Bran (Duke Legacys Tape Worm):

if lgc was still aline then why were you mobilising against us?

00:52:44 Jan 19th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):

massing troops in someones core waiting the day to attack is not very friendly. look at the vote, if you wanted the era to end, you had the choice, but you wanted to ....wipe LGC out completely, then wipe us out too? your odds againsts us are like 3 to 1, do you realize that? if this was the game of risk, lets say, it would be the only way to survive a dead match like that, strike before you took us out. if you never wanted to fight us then you shoulda signed a NAP, but instead you wanted the chance to overrun us at the very end? I'm sure you guys woulda honored the CF till the bloody end, prob to the point of sending all your troops home before attacking the last LGC city, thats what i woulda done. but, what i woulda done in this situation is be like some of you puppies and grin, shake my head and enjoyed the game we all play together :-)

01:03:59 Jan 19th 14 - Mr. Token of Lgc:

Hmm. I'm afraid it has been 80% poodles, 10% phoons, 5% immi 5% freelance alliance fighting LGC.

Lot of Poodle armies died or suffered big damage. I'm afraid Lock's massive army is quite capable of soloing the map at this point.

01:14:34 Jan 19th 14 - Fordius (Mr. Death Fordius):

Aisha apologise for falsely accusing me please. Maybe touch my body while ur at it. Thanks

01:25:12 Jan 19th 14 - Princess Aisha:

Apologies to Fordius, even thought you're in their Kd
You deserve credit for honor

And touching is done in IMs you know that!

02:01:46 Jan 19th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):

Pfft locks got all low level troops, that whore.

03:50:53 Jan 19th 14 - Mr. Big Bounce:

So if I Sighn a peace treaty whith everyone the whole world will be at peace?

04:35:08 Jan 19th 14 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

Had a fit of giggles when I read Aisha calling other players unhonourable.

Has she forgotten her broken promises to delete her account? She's the least trustworthy player in the game.

08:09:29 Jan 19th 14 - Mr. Paper Thick:

15:52:44 Jan 18th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):
massing troops in someones core waiting the day to attack is not very friendly.

If you are referring to me. Please remember I built my cities in this section here before any lines were drawn and when we were considering OOP with you. So the "forces massing in your core" is not exactly accurate, and could easily be describes as defending. In addition had we been sure that you would have held up your side and not attacked from behind, I would have been marching on lgc instead of defending.

Anyways, the past is the past, and this is now lets just have fun at the situtation we are in.

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