Valhalla

Valhalla

02:34:02 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

True Deallus, and that worked for you...now, how many others joined the same area with you and Sprout...and how many are still around?

02:36:01 Jan 21st 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

Hmm...Millman was in his second era...Slade had been around for a few...I remember Pimp, but he had been no new player. Will have to look at the scores.

EDIT - Not sure if Borazon or Ender are still around.. Zump...

07:34:10 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Aftermath:

Biggest problem is when players of more experience die on Fant/Mant/Zeta/Starta they just restart on lower worlds, now if there was someway that if you started in any of the 3 worlds mention then you have to rejoin in them or wait till next era starts.
Now i know some may just change there names to play there but cant do much about that.
That way all worlds below these can be 'new player worlds'
And i also think ALL wolds open at same time.

11:53:57 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Shmeh:

EVERYONE CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!

18:25:17 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Aftermath:

Calm Down ?

this is probably the calmest discussion in the whole Game forum , actually its quite civilized ... very nice :-)

18:28:49 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Shmeh:

i know i just bored of it being calm so i thought saying calm down might turn things around (if that makes sense)

and i was in it right near the start... ah good times lol

18:29:18 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

*throws a snowball at Aftermath*

Sorry, it was too civilized, had to take care of that problem... xD

18:53:30 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Shmeh:

Come on gingerbread man you can do better than that, liven things up

19:13:19 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

@Shmeh.... EAT ME! =P

19:26:58 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Shmeh:

mmm...... gingerbread

02:33:51 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Aftermath:

* throws snowball with rock in it at Gingerbread*
Pleazzzzzzze keep the peace!

05:12:15 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Kathandarion of Imperius:

Well bethmorian empire are NAP breakers.... Duke slade the drunk comes begging for our help and then betrays us.

05:19:37 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

Well, in his defense, he DID say he was drunk...

06:13:25 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Roran Eindringen:

yea cant blame a drunk man they cant think straight

14:55:47 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Most Powerful Groups

[H] Heaven
With Duke Argyle as leader.

[PKS] Peacekeepers
With Sir Grim Darkhammer as leader.

[Soul] Rebirth
With Mr. Overcome as leader.

[Dark] Dark
With Monarch Vampire Queen as leader.

[LGC] Legacy
With Mr. Roxbury as leader.

[BIO] BioHazard
With Mr. Heripy as leader.

[Pro] Prosapia
With Duke Arzun as leader.

Anybody else find it rediculous that the Valhalla hoh looks like this? There is only two kingdoms on that list that started on Valhalla (BioHazard & Heaven). PKS and Dark are working together to pretty juch pick on *beep*s. If you could see the map right now, PKS and Dark are eating kingdoms 20+ times smaller than them. I think its sick. The new players have no chance. Even if they were even half as experienced as some members of PKS, they started much later than them so they still don't stand a chance. And then to get double teamed by both PKS and Dark makes it even worse.

15:00:51 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Overcome:

well actually neither Bio nor Heaven started on Valhalla. they gat beated off. and so did Rebirth. we started on Fantasia, and when we gat defeated by PRO, we moved in Valhalla.

16:40:35 Jan 25th 09 - Sir Stirlin:

we started on Fant, but died, so we restarted on valhalla, where there were several KDs already established on the world, but as we have experianced members we have managed to fight our way to the top of this world despite the heavy presence of KDs from the upper worlds making a new holiday home here

21:07:21 Jan 25th 09 - Sir Combat Wombat:

fight me stirlin!

21:10:10 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

Hehe, was going to say...None of those on the list are actually kingdoms that first started on Val xD

21:40:54 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Let me rephrase and say settled on Valhalla. Heaven and BioHazard are the only 2 on the list who settled and live on Valhalla. The rest are just higher world invaders looking for new places to farm with their NAP bed buddies.

21:46:52 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

you might be mistaken if you think Dark and LGC are NAPed xD....I'd sooner argue for the peeps like BE that have a few nubs and Slade vs. kingdoms that restarted after being killed on Fant...

As far as I know, Dark and Heaven never agreed to the end of their war...so why wouldn't they continue it?

22:21:31 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Dark and PKS are though....And they are definitely teaming up. With you Ginger, you and Rudy were in our core OOP and we destroyed you.... That wasn't a war against Dark, that was a war against 2 members of Dark who had the bad luck of starting in our core.

23:01:09 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Dethklok:

Let me just clear something up for you guys there is no "teaming up between PKS and Dark" No one from either KD messaged the other and said hey lets go clean up on Valhalla. I am a Vice for the Peacekeepers and not once this era has Dark and PKS "teamed up" on any kingdom with any kind of cordinated attack. We are just two KDs who happen to be on the same world kicking azz. End of story.

23:03:09 Jan 25th 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

There is a NAP, not a MAP...

23:34:30 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

With you Ginger, you and Rudy were in our core OOP and we destroyed you.... That wasn't a war against Dark, that was a war against 2 members of Dark who had the bad luck of starting in our core.

lol, sorry, that sounds kinda funny to me...alrighty, we're not specifically warring Heaven, we just consider Valhalla our core and we are attacking the select members that happen to be in our core; but I repeat this is NOT a war against Heaven.

Hehe, you attacked me fair and square and I had no problem with it...we have no agreement btwn our two kingdoms, so I'm not sure why you thought we WOULDN'T hit you? And as far as coordinating...I've talked to Argyle more than any PKS member in reference to Valhalla, and I'll again give props to Argyle, he's funny, we've had some good convos! Alas, i tdoes not look like his army made it through the gauntlet, so Imma gonna have to go collect on my bet lol

23:41:30 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Whether or not you are officially teaming up, you are both attacking side-by-side into the same area. You are now sharing the blockers and core of Cobra and still fighting the remainder of Luna Wolves. Whether or not your officially working together through PMs or forums does not matter. You are teaming up on the map and thats all that's important. And the truth is your just bullying new player kingdoms to add to your score.

23:43:47 Jan 25th 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

LOL...ask Deallus, he's been making fun of us enough...u dun have a more new player kingdom than Dark out there xD

00:06:30 Jan 26th 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

Making fun of = telling things how they are?

00:09:54 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

Making fun of = telling things how they are in a taunting and demeaning manner =P

00:23:09 Jan 26th 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

Making fun of = telling things how they are in a taunting and demeaning manner because they are full of themselves?

02:41:34 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Gingerbread Man:

Yes yes, we're full of ourselves, we've often come on here and said we were gonna conquer the world...

*shrug*

03:03:31 Jan 26th 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

...actually...*sigh* nevermind I won't waste my breath...done with politics.

03:07:48 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

We know... But since there are 41 of you(in Dark I mean, not including PKS) and you started before every kingdom on Valhalla, and you had the bonus of NAPs with everyone so you only ever had to fight on single fronts, and on and on, the advantage is definitely in your favor in an attack on Valhalla. Are you proud of yourselves for attacking kingdoms with less 20% of your power? And are you proud of doing it teamed with a "fantasia class" kingdom?(the " " are for sarcasm just so that you know...). Go take some Fantasian cities or something. Quit farming off of new players.

03:22:33 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Btw, that was in response to the "u dun have a more new player kingdom than Dark out there xD" comment-.- Just so that it makes sense.

03:41:09 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Barny:

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I have to agree, Dark and PKS may not be making a coordinated effort but they DID NAP enough kds that they have been expanding in the direction of the new players all era. In reality, the vast majority of Dark and PKS have been farming all era. Take it from me, I have had LoS on the non-fantasia worlds nearly all era; but there have still been a total of like 15 Dark-PKS players who have been conquering the lesser worlds all era.

They have not so much as noticeably touched any of the worlds that opened at the start like Fant, Mant, and Zeta; but they have been moving armies into all the other worlds the moment they open. It's a shame yet inevitable, that with the merging of the various maps that there will be kingdoms that go out and dominate the lesser worlds like this. The ONLY lesser world kingdom that has been spared was FF; because it has such a large number of veteran players. Honestly, if anyone has had a big LoS on the lesser worlds they would see that the dominant kingdom on all lesser worlds is Dark, and then PKS.

Sadly, this trend will most likely continue; because there will always be Fant and non-Fant kds that have nowhere else to expand to; and the worlds that open later have less experienced, less active, and later starting players. I imagine that this is going to go ignored by everyone for a long time; because most Fant-Mant-Zeta players will be pre-occupied with their own wars and wont notice.

03:50:24 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

The worst part of it is, even if you were to consider the taking over of new player worlds by kds like Dark as not dishonorable, it still leads to nothing but NAPfests by coward kds.

The way I see it, all you have to do is NAP all the powerful kingdoms to avoid war with them, then take over all the *beep* worlds and instantly you have all the power of any other kingdom as well as a very good win/loss ratio and you didn't even have to work for it.

The way things are going right now, ^that is the future of VU. No more big OOP wars, just farming until the newb worlds open up and then see who can capture the most cities. The winner is the best newb killer and he will win the era.

05:35:40 Jan 26th 09 - Saint Tuff Nuff:

Dark only went to vahalla to crush legacy after they sent an army at us. All the cities I took were legacy. except for a few that camped om my cities and pissed me off. Anyway now that FF reneged on their "FULL ERA NAP" I am returning south. Bye bye Valhalla.

Oh and I did get into a bit of a fight with BIO but that was a fight started early in the era. Now we have CF. And Heaven own all of Vahalla if you want t ocall anyone out.

I've been quite friendly I thought. I didn't attack a bunch of new kingdoms but propsia, rebirth, and others are giving an initiation through fire. Which might be more helpful in the end.

05:47:28 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Barny:

Well like I said above it is mostly 10 Dark members and like 6 PKS guys; but that is and was still enough to crush the lesser worlds. This is a pattern that is going to be repeated era upon era upon era. Kingdoms in Fantasia will most likely be pre-occupied with Fantasia wars; but it would only take 1 NAP whoring kd to crush the lesser worlds. Kingdoms in Mantrax, Zetamania, and Starta are the most likely to hunt *beep*s because there is generally 2-4 powefull kingdoms on each of those worlds; and they are likely to NAP each other like what happened this era.

I am not trying to specifically critisize anyone here; I am just using Dark and PKS as examples because there were a few members from each that went and trashed the lesser worlds. I suspect that next era there will inevitably be players from Fant and other worlds that open at the era start who do this as well.

On Valhalla this era, you took my cities because I sent an army at you guys because you sent armies at us earlier in the era. The players who camped your cities probably did so because they didnt differentiate between you and other Dark members. You might have left them alone, but Graybeard and other would not have.

Well, once again I mean no offense to anyone whom I mentioned. This era it wasn't AS BAD; but I bet that in the coming eras it will be a complete slaughter.

05:53:20 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

"Oh and I did get into a bit of a fight with BIO but that was a fight started early in the era. Now we have CF. And Heaven own all of Vahalla if you want t ocall anyone out."

We settled here after we were killed on Fant early in the era :S And no, we don't own it all... Although we did beat Bio for you....

06:10:52 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Eargit Prewett The Ugly:

They(Dark) tried to attack us(Heaven) too but I killed the only 2 armies that where sent my way. I'm not sure if PKS was gunning for Heaven too but then tried to go for Velocity, I got his army any way. I don't have a problem with going for smaller kds but do have a problem with kds NAPing each other so they can then go after small kds.

I've seen PKS being a bigger bully than Dark when it comes to attacking small kds.

Lost respect for PKS, after being around so much I would have thought they would have wanted a bigger challange.

06:22:50 Jan 26th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

"I don't have a problem with going for smaller kds but do have a problem with kds NAPing each other so they can then go after small kds. "

Agreed. The whole point of this new system of connected worlds is to allow one kingdom to rule it all if they have enough skill. The small kingdoms have to fall at some point and have no more rights than any kingdom. But if given the choice between a kingdom 1/4th your size and a kingdom the same size as you, you should attack the one closer to your power. Thats just honorable play in my opinion.

01:21:28 Jan 27th 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

I hart newb bashing

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