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so disappointing watching ex lgc players turn so sour and breaking terms when it suits them. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
can we get a kingdom % update, please friends? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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THis thread is funny.
because I have mails.. That make you (poodles running your mouths) looking like full blown retards.
considering I asked if you wanted us to wait for all lgc city to fall.. And u didn't reply. I then mailed a few more times. No replies. So guess what.. Fuck off plz.
I asked for a friendly war, u guys said no. I mail more. No replies.
so here we are, fighting. Whine while while. Those "friends" of mine.. One very specific person who knows who they seem you make me puke. Yet laugh. Its funny. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Would everyone hate me if I suggested someone casting Arma? It is likely a winner would have emerged within the next 10 days or so anyways. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Cast it please. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Anyone capable of doing it and got the time to do so, should. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think thats not a bad ranking for two people :D | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Aint nobody got time for that. It seems you and me got another date Evans :O | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I am Lock, Cry Lock. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
sittning lock | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Doubt anyone can beat the close to 1mil advents Crylock has in just 1 army alone. Zeta needs to bring freaking merges back. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You can beat him ... i doubt he has 1 mil mages... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That CF has the worst condition and wording ever. Greed won out in the end so I guess it was moot anyway. =) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
He actually has over 1mil mages. Go eits :D | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yeah he does have over a million mages we've seen the Eits -_- along with like 300k ponies to boot.... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lol, Sacredone. Crylock played it very smart and he managed to get an experienced army out early and then he was able farm with that experienced army. About a week ago his was making around 150mil gold/day in finds.. So its not surprising to see him at 1mil Advents. I think the most impressive part is the sheer number of Peasants he has. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No surprise then that LGC lost when they lost their best players in Whorey and Legend. There needs to be an internal inquiry (again) as to where it went wrong and how they lost two such valuable players. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
To be honest, i have no idee what i got. Lock, Cry Lock | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
someone has to protect me, i cant always lose. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I just want to clarify the NAP/Cf break that was talked about here. Here is the original convo. You (12/13/2013 11:38:02 AM) Timuuuuuuur We are here to have fun and kill/flame lgc! We would like a CF to avoid a pointless war. Sheriff Timur (12/13/2013 12:34:23 PM) GOOD BAD CF accepted, and I have posted it in our kingdom forums. I would recommend we add a 72 tick notice to our agreement after Legacy (and beothuk?..are they even in the game?) is dead. Timur You (12/13/2013 12:41:18 PM) That works. i can post it as well. My guys would like to request if we can have this area. and block each bridge. This way, when/if it comes to us fighting. We each have our own core. Notice that nothing is very clear, wording is poor, and he recommends. Sheriff Timur (1/6/2014 6:47:23 PM) GOOD BAD "we also are in a pickle jar of sorts. If we move on another KD.. And can't take them out quickly and lgc dies.. We have poodles armies in our core that are ready. ".... We faced the same problem. We saw your giant armies and held back armies in our core because we feared what would happen to our core when Legacy dies. I forgot..did we agree to a 72 tick notice after legacy dies? or would you prefer a notice plus 120 ticks after the death of Legacy...5 days/120 ticks would normally allow armies to return from the front. This assumes you want to fight it out after legacy dies.... You (1/6/2014 7:00:15 PM) Well. As it stands we fight once the last lgc town falls. But I cf every KD.. So I fight everyone once they die. Didn't want to sit all era. we saw the hoh city. And had someone ready for that. And then once knitler and mad died. We couldn't move. As we only have 2 fighting. And a mage. Others are afk. I know for sure I'm fighting immortals as I'm the only one who cf them. Everyone else naped them So there you have it. They post that mail and complain i said once last lgc town falls, yet right after i said no, we fight once lgc dies. But dies how.. no towns? no armies? afks? power drop? NOTHING is specified, nothing stays the same.. its different each time spoken of. No offence to Timur.. i like the guy and his kd. But he should have paid attention to the wording. Gotten specifics. And when he "forgot".. he should have looked at the old mail and said otherwise. Now for the honor, honor was here. They mentioned that we prepped, then pulled back. Etc. I read the mails, told them to wait longer. Lgc was dead (power wise).. we waited.. a long time. Also Cry Lock even mailed Paper and told him that he was giving him time.. Now for the terms with Immortals. You (12/15/2013 5:32:42 AM) Ofc you would say that. I say no, but warlock said if you are fighting lgc right now, then we can get a cf. Nothing more. Princess Aisha (12/15/2013 5:54:07 AM) GOOD BAD Ofc I would say what? We are sharing core with Legacy, ofc we are fighting them Everyone on this world will be fighting Legacy I think And they still have numbers on everyone else If they have every member active, they have numbers. For example we have at least 7-8 people not playing Best players like Tyrg had trouble finding place to settle I had to walk right in middle of Legacy core to settle I decided for one city only, as that is only way I can defend. Alrighty then, CF it is The normal terms, with possible termination of 72 hours right? Do both kingdoms need to agree or just one is ok? Are there any other restrictions, like if Immortals need to settle few cities in west side of the map, would that be possible? South east of the map, that is where Legacy and Immortals are Just for your information. You (12/15/2013 7:35:57 AM) Ofc you would say we used be friends. warlock wants cf until lgc dead. Princess Aisha (12/15/2013 10:31:18 AM) GOOD BAD You're the one who deleted me from skype :) Ok, CF sounds good. You (12/15/2013 11:05:03 AM) you are the one who said we arent friends over something so stupid, then wanted to argue over it. and to save myself from my feelings, i removed you, so i didnt have to see you online. Princess Aisha (12/15/2013 11:14:24 AM) GOOD BAD ok then fair enough, I will not bother you any more :) just to clarify do we have 72 hours notice? or once legacy is dead we war right away? what are the rules? You (12/15/2013 11:17:20 AM) once lgc is dead we are free to fight each other. and thats your choice, you wanted our friendship to end. not me. all in your control. there you have it.. another kd played by wording. Technically we can attack them at any moment.. and they the same to us. This is not dishonor, this is the play upon words. Deceiving one under their own eyes. Knowingly tricking someone isnt dishonor. Can i say, look at my kds name? The info? Or my posts. I gave warnings all era, little subtle hints. Not to mention i told some LGC folk, who i knew would tell Poodles and warn them. He did. You see, its like a back up plan. A fail safe, when you guys come to accuse... it was known already this would happen. You could of listened, planned, and reacted. But to each action, is a reaction.. This era was planned from before it began. For this very thing. Trickery. Deceit. Does me admitting, that i know what Poodles thought they were signing, change anything? I knew i was tricking them. Its been done many times.. most know by now to check my wording. Ive even wrote out CF terms, full blown. And they had phrases like "We get a free city of choice each week from your kd.".. and well. IF you are the lazy type who simply replies agreed.. well you just screwed yourself. And if you dont do it.. then you are breaking the cf/nap. Not me. People dont tend to pay attention.. is that my fault? Now for that specific matter, the person did catch it. And pointed it out. But this time.. cant call my kd unhonorable for preying on the weak. (no offence). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
To be fair, I did warn Poodles vices. ...the same KD that napped the entire map to kill my KD. I think Fantasia could use a change of . . . honor. Maybe Beo was right. Napping to stomp your enemy with ease really is the best way to win around here. Heh... can't even stomp a KD out successfully... even with a mass nap... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That wording shaked the world and some huge EQ were struck upon Fantasia | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ah shut up Cry Lock can't listen to ur shit :P Either stick to ur sister stories or about how sad you were for LGC kicking your butt out please tell me for the 50th time why you were sad? Cause what stirlin wasn't befriending you poor guy :( | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Well. As it stands we fight once the last lgc town falls. But I cf every KD.. So I fight everyone once they die. Didn't want to sit all era. Once you sent this message an our leader an he sent a reply the kingdoms re-agreed on the terms of the CF. An the terms clearly say once the last legacy city fall we fight. Well. As it stands we fight once the last lgc town falls. You specified once the last legacy city falls. Aka the end of the CF's terms between our kingdoms. But I cf every KD.. So I fight everyone once they die. Didn't want to sit all era. The wording here can be taken as you speaking for yourself now due to the "But" however due to your position as the leader of MODS not just one player by themselves anymore when speaking of terms what you agree to applies to your entire kingdom. They do what you do an if you agree to a CF with someone that CF is extended to all that you lead/rule over. They may not like it but as a king/leader that's how it is. Even then the wording here at the end can only be taken as once the last legacy city falls all your CF's with other kingdoms will end. It cant be taken as a "no wait not once the last legacy city falls isnt the end term anymore its we fight once we consider legacy dead". To do so you would be making up an adding entire words and sentences not there. You have to go by the words that you yourself typed and are there. An using those words our CF would end when the last legacy city fell. The wording at the end would only be considered added info not really needed telling us that your CF with other kingdoms would also end at the same time. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I fall back to the fact that we are abusers and cheaters. ....oh and that this is a game ment for fun stuff. And a war game where strategy is key, and that the puppies had arms in our core ready to strike, positioned such as to only be benifital to strike us. Tis true you would want defenses to be prepared for a cf to end, but giving people the task of only being ready to fight us is perhaps why the war with lgc took so long. Or something like all that. Who knows, I just say stuff, nobody really cares what I say any way... Garbaleegarbaleedoodah | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So you are saying. If i message your leader and say "Sfd needs a boyfriend (hes taken and is mine <3)" and he takes it serious without first confirming.. then it is truth? He never mailed back saying yes, or agreed, or anything of the sort. Or how about these mails. You (1/16/2014 5:14:46 PM) Was wondering if your KD is interested in a 1v1 Sheriff Timur (1/16/2014 7:28:10 PM) GOOD BAD Most my kingdom wants to take our (minor) victory and run away with it, partially out of fear and partially out of eagerness for next era. It wouldn't be a 1 vs 1...legacy is still alive and Binh's mega army is still headed at our core, and Phoons could jump in as well (though I am not sure which way they would jump). Next era we won't be CFing the entire map (maybe 1/2 though)...too many people on garrison duty and for them it is too dull. You (1/16/2014 7:30:58 PM) We are dull as well. Reason we want some fun war action.. We both been sitting. And binh can be killed with magic. and I can ask phoons to sit aside. either way it goes, my KD has asked me ask you guys for a war.. Lgc is dead. Thus our cf ends. Only Bing is left roaming. So we figured we would ask for some fun warring. Instead of just a blind sided attack. NO REPLY GIVEN. Mr. Oops (1/17/2014 3:40:03 PM)   Locks XXX Slave:Your army Kill II is prepping on a Poodles city in violation of an active CF. Please pull off. cc: Locks XXX Slave, The Cheating Abusing Mod, Cry Lock, Timur, Paper ThickYou (1/17/2014 6:11:03 PM)Lgc is essentially dead. I asked for a friendly spar. Your KD declined. so here we are.Mr. Oops (1/17/2014 6:32:45 PM) I'll pass your note on to Timur who handles all our diplomacy.Your prior message plainly said that the CF would end when the last LGC city was destroyed, not when LGC was "essentially dead." There are still significant LGC cities and forces in the field, so I'm personally of the understanding that the CF is still in effect.You (1/17/2014 6:47:54 PM)So you want us to wait until the very last lgc town is taken? Its 3 of us.. Not like we are entire KD. 3 of us vs your KD. NO REPLY GIVEN WHEN ASKED WHAT HE WANTS US TO DO Mr. Oops (1/17/2014 6:34:53 PM) GOOD BAD The Cheating Abusing Mod (1/17/2014 4:11:03 PM) GOOD BAD Lgc is essentially dead. I asked for a friendly spar. Your KD declined. so here we are. You (1/17/2014 4:32:45 PM) I'll pass your note on to Timur who handles all our diplomacy. Your prior message plainly said that the CF would end when the last LGC city was destroyed, not when LGC was "essentially dead." There are still significant LGC cities and forces in the field, so I'm personally of the understanding that the CF is still in effect. You (1/17/2014 7:56:52 PM) Sheriff Timur (12/13/2013 12:34:23 PM) GOOD BAD CF accepted, and I have posted it in our kingdom forums. I would recommend we add a 72 tick notice to our agreement after Legacy (and beothuk?..are they even in the game?) is dead. Timur YET AGAIN NO REPLY. I then go mostly afk due to rl. Then get on and see we are accused of nap/cf breaking. this is why Swifty invented loel. for the moments like this. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mods attack was nicely planned while binh was in our core, how convenient to claim that LGC was dead while Binhs army was taking cities. I never trusted you or your kingdom, and now im justified, We wont make the same mistake twice. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Look at our kd name? Or i could say: Your kd had armies sitting in blockers facing our core during our entire cf.. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Don't say your kingdom :P I feel neglected :( While I'm such a pretty boy... euhm a good boy I mean :P :D | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
you mean our "shared core?" while 80% of our kingdom was fighting LGC, we were hearing reports that you planned to break our CF once LGC was dead, and as we were killing LGC fast we have the right to train troops. In our "shared core" just as you have the right to train troops in our "shared core". Also if you had fears of us training troops near you the honest and smart thing would be to have messaged Timur or one of the vices, and discuss your fears, we could have altered our CF. We could have made it era long, which I did try to do but your vice lock who is not inactive whatsoever chose not to respond to me. But the truth of the matter is you guys were bored, thats why you choose to end arma early, you were bored so you made up a reason to attack us? Timmur not responding to your every message, zonds not getting his way better attack. Zond buck up and act like a mature adult. Sick of trying to argue with a child. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Fear? We had no fear, i already admitted several times we wanted to fight you and i planned my wording.. So what is it you are trying to accomplish? Your kd made allies with every kd just to kill one kd.. as did Immortals. Now you are made that a kd of 3 active fighting players wants to fight you? Is that VU has become? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ive read Timur's reply. If you had any reading comprehension you'd be able to take away from what he typed. That he'd have to decline the war. An that he doesn't want to war. As do most of his kingdom. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It true we may have napped to much this era, thats why we wanted the era to end with your arma, but you screwed that up, so thanks. I do think its funny that your mentioning our relations when you obviously have made relations with just about everyone else also. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
But we are having fun with this era. Eras are too short these days. And even though no one listens or cares what I say, in our Core we had arms full of troops all era waiting to attack us. It wasn't a shared area and if you read the MSG Zond sent it asks that you let us wall it off. Instead you guys built blockers where we couldn't, left us open for your attack and trained mass troops up against our mines. Designated kdmates for attacking us and they stayed there all era waiting to do so. To me all these things you say are to make yourself look good and us as the bad guy, but if you wanted the era to end you would cast arma. And if you didn't want to attack us you wouldn't have put troops in our core. Seems to me that you wished lgc woulda been completely gone so you would be completely free to take out 6 players with your 17. But now you have the bonus of calling us evil on top of it all. That's fine. I've been king of evil before, so why would you expect less? The fact remains that all I hear is whining and I niether hear Armageddon bells nor do I hear retreat horns, all I hear are your "charge" trumpets and the sounds of your horses hoofs. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I made my relations throughout the era, not at the start of it. And we know we had to many.. you know you had to many. Thus why we ASKED for a war. and you guys were pussies. We killed Knitler and MAD (who phoons also attacked). The initial plan, was one NAP. Relentless. They died.. I then offered it to Phoons who killed them. They said yes. I Cf poodles with the intent of fighting later era. And only reason i naped Immortals was because of who asked. Otherwise i would of said no. I still wanted to say no and fight them while poodles fought lgc. But warlock said cf them and we farm up. So we did. Its as much my fault, as your kds fault. I specifically asked when they want us to attack. And i got no reply. So we waited a day, i issued the order. You guys speak so highly of honor, yet have 0 respect. For an honorable person who have replied. Not ignore. In reply to Sacredone: Yes you are right. I agree. But you forget you have Ery, with 4 90ker. Who also has a lot of income.. and has been farming. You have farming halfers. And farming other races. Our troll lost his army. So you are fighting a halfer.. and a elf who is playing defense. We have 3 openings to our core. + I lost all my income, and my stash. Stg is down as well. Its a nice war.. you complain of boredom. Yet we are fighting a full scale war. If you want era to end, cast arma. You have many elves.. Cast it, force us to take it if we want it to end. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Zond.. you do know that LGC still is not dead, why would we choose to war you at the time with binh so close to our cities and then he got in our core and then you choose to attack? really? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You killed him, did you not? You had an entire kd farming the whole era.. if you seriously couldnt beat one player. Let alone a hald dead who was attacked and ganged on.. and in an oop battle. Then sigh. really big sigh. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
We'd love to cast arma but you took out our main elf mage an his magic city... our other elves arent mage elves so we had no need for 9 magic so we didnt go for 9 magic an instead put that into military.... 7 military levels is cheaper then 9 magic an comes with the added benefit of less dead. I'd love to farm up the ninth magic level what do you think? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Farmed the whole era? lets look at your kingdom statistics for a min, now please remember that a huge fraction of your current battles are recently with you know betraying our CFing and becoming one of the least trusted players around, good job.. whatever the outcome of this "war" im sure you will and your kingdom will do quite well in future era's to come... lol Kingdom StatsCompare different kingdom against each others.
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I dont know why it keeps coming up as forgotten warriors.. so annoying.. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Everyone knows it was tricky, and wrong. But no one but you seems to think i broke anything.. hmm. Grudges? Or still mad about that mail you sent me. Claiming lots bs, and then mad you were wrong. lol. so funny. "Zond buck up and act like a mature adult. Sick of trying to argue with a child. "
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The initial plan, was one NAP. Relentless. They died.. I then offered it to Phoons who killed them. You definitely made some sort of agreement with Phoons before Relentless fell.. The whole time we fought the phoons neither of you even motioned to attack one another, even though your cities were all mixed, just sayiiing. That was fun while it lasted though Phoons, sorry for being so bad at this game :p | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Do some math.. for players compared to battle... makes you look like a fucking retard.
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no zond im mad about this still
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20:55:59 Jan 22nd 14 - Rora (Ms. Auroraa): The initial plan, was one NAP. Relentless. They died.. I then offered it to Phoons who killed them. You definitely made some sort of agreement with Phoons before Relentless fell.. The whole time we fought the phoons neither of you even motioned to attack one another, even though your cities were all mixed, just sayiiing. That was fun while it lasted though Phoons, sorry for being so bad at this game :p Yes, we had a cf. We wanted just you for NAP though. BUt as Phoons grew strong we didnt want to be blind sided and made it a NAP. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ok, real quick post. First targeting my kingdoms own downfalls. My guys would like to request if we can have this area. and block each bridge. This way, when/if it comes to us fighting. We each have our own core --> This is clearly my violation, I did not see this, and yes I did have several cities there at the time of this, however, had I seen this I would have moved as much of my stuff (If possible, at the very least my 2 large econ cities and armory) to leave that area). So in this respect I apologize. 2) @ Conan and Sacredone (members of my own kingdom), it was Mod Abusers who casted Armageddon, they had the right to let it go or not, in addition, they spent an entire era farming for this exact war, and it wasnt exactly unexpected, they gave us a 20 hour warning they were going to attack. 3) @ Shyers and Zond. You mentioned, yet again a player building in your core waiting to attack your kingdom. I would like to throw out there once again, that I had built there with intentions of OOP (my favorite aspect of this game) and was later informed that we would be CFd with your kingdom. I built there because those were my econ cities and I had to defend them because there was rumor of your kingdom breaking the CF, had I marched on LGC and you did break it, I would have lost absolutely everything in a few hours. However, regarding this, I did message Crylock to let him know that I had no intention of attacking your kingdom and I was there only for fear of the unknown. 4) @ Everyone in the game. Mod Abusers, 'Broke' their CF with us by technicality. However they gave us warning and intention to do so. And finally @ Zond again. You wrote. Your kd made allies with every kd just to kill one kd.. as did Immortals. Now you are made that a kd of 3 active fighting players wants to fight you? Is that VU has become? I cant speak for my whole kingdom, But i am not mad we are fighting your kingdom. It makes tactical sense, your kingdom had a very good setup and this was your chance. In addition we did not ally with every kingdom, we offered every small kingdom a cf/nap because we do not usually 'feed' its a diplomatic choice that we will likely not pursue next era. We have acknowledged this mistake and is not something we wish to repeat. Also your kingdoms CF terms even when "clarified" did technically say Last lgc city to fall. Lets all just put it in the past, the past is the past and there is honestly nothing to be gained while pointing out each others faults, pointing fingers is pointless [haha, that was punny]. Lets just do better next time. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Im recalling Fordy to be the one to cast spells upon our "enemy" for a long time before arma was done. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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